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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRacist bitch caught in "n-word" tirade in Rochester raises $600K+ via fundraiser, sparking community backlash
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/viral-video-racial-slur-rochester-playground-backlash/

Chasstev365
(5,418 posts)I wish someone would start a Go Fund Me for the family who had to listen to her hate.
al bupp
(2,452 posts)It raised ~350K.
Chasstev365
(5,418 posts)Thanks
Dan
(4,673 posts)She wasn't using a GoFundMe site, but rather one used by the white supremacy groups.
sheshe2
(91,830 posts)IrishAfricanAmerican
(4,238 posts)but then I repeat myself.
misanthrope
(8,717 posts)Doesn't have to be, but is.
EdmondDantes_
(450 posts)Why throw in a gender based slur while pointing out that racial slurs suck and people who support using them also suck? Seems to undercut the point that slurs are bad if we don't like someone's actions we revert to doing the same thing we're against.
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MineralMan
(148,996 posts)the use of a racial slur. Call her a woman or a Karen, or whatever. Using one slur to attack someone for using another slur is weak sauce.
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MineralMan
(148,996 posts)Such bigoted speech is based on hatred or stupidity. It is lazy, generalized speech, meant to demean. It is not a matter of degree. Bigotry is simply bigotry.
So, members of any group is justified in being angered by such speech. Bigoted speech ignores all but one aspect of people's identity. Usually, that speech is directed at an individual, but lumps all individuals with the same particular characteristic into a single category.
Referring to one woman as a "bitch" is essentially calling all women bitches. So, women are generally offended by that word being used as an insult aimed at a particular individual.
Why do that? It's very simple to refer to the woman who used a racial slur against a black child by slurring the woman with a slur used against women.
There are plenty of words one can use to identify a person. In the present case, "woman" or even "young woman" could be used. That she was wrong to call that black child that bigoted name is not reason enough to refer to her with another slur. That's just a very weak use of language, and it is offensive.
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MineralMan
(148,996 posts)Pretty much the entire history of Homo sapiens, really. So...
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Blue_Adept
(6,451 posts)It ain't hard to do better but DU keeps sliding in this regard and whenever it gets called out, this is what happens.
Keep driving people away.
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Blue_Adept
(6,451 posts)At no point did I say anything about equivalency.
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niyad
(123,592 posts)relative newcomers, proudly defend their use of misogynist slurs.
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niyad
(123,592 posts)keep on with the insults, we need the laughs.
ShazzieB
(20,522 posts)It's also disheartening and disappointing that the OP hasn't been edited to eliminate the slur by now.
As "acceptable" as that word would be many places on the internet, DU has higher standards, which I consider a feature, not a big!
niyad
(123,592 posts)obamanut2012
(28,445 posts)You know I don't believe that, but so many liberals sure do. We begged Skinner for years to officially ban the b and cwords, but nope.
niyad
(123,592 posts)Misogyny is apparently one of the last acceptable areas of such mental processes.
whathehell
(30,146 posts)Are you actually claiming that the oppression of women doesn't have its own "long, violent history rooted in systemic dehumanization", one that is in fact, universal and far longer??
Such a claim would be so blind, so oblivious, I'd have to laugh were it not so serious.
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whathehell
(30,146 posts)or equally weighted in every context", but you harshly criticized the poster, even accusing them of equating the two insults, simply for bringing it up. You must know that two things can be valid, even if not equally, at the same time.
ShazzieB
(20,522 posts)If i were posting this story, i would have probably said something like "hateful racist woman." Or just "hateful racist" because there's no real need to bring gender into it at all.
More words, but actually much more informative than the word that was used!
MineralMan
(148,996 posts)hamsterjill
(15,804 posts)I have friends with that name, and they've been the subject of teasing because of this latest fad. I would prefer "bitch" over "Karen" any day.
I guess "bigot" would be appropriate.
questionseverything
(10,793 posts)You would think mm would know that
ShazzieB
(20,522 posts)Or to be more descriptive, "bigoted woman" or "racist woman" or "hateful, racist woman."
Although the description of what she said pretty much implies the "bigoted, hateful, racist" part, now that I think about it.
whathehell
(30,146 posts)please do not tell them what they're intentions are or were...Doing so represents an attempt at mind reading, if not villifying, and is explicitly against the rules of the site.
As for the comment itself, please remember that the term "bitch" is just one of a plethora of slurs directed at human females, not just a sign of bad manners. Pretending otherwise ignores centuries of misogynistic oppression, and denies the "real historical weight and harm" behind the slurs it represents.
Yes, this racist's behavior was appalling, but the point is, it's no more related to her gender than bad behavior on the part of other marginalized peoples is related to their race or orientation. To claim otherwise is like saying it's "ok" to use the N word if the person being targeted is a bad person.
Insults must address character, not immutable characteristics of birth or orientation. Refusing to do that for everyone, makes us hypocrites.
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tritsofme
(19,151 posts)decided to use another slur in the OP.
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tritsofme
(19,151 posts)It is the OP who distracted and shifted attention from that terrible woman.
whathehell
(30,146 posts)The poster did not criticize or "describe" the person's behavior as "bitchy", he characterized her with the dehumanizing word "bitch". It is not the same.
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whathehell
(30,146 posts)"drawn a false equivalence"?
Nah..I didn't think so. At this point, I believe you're just throwing around accusations and making unsubstantiated claims.
The word, "bitch", by the way, is LITERALLY dehumanizing, meaning as it does, 'female dog'.
Though it's clear to me that you consider racism to be much more "important" than misogyny -- After all, it includes men! -- there is, as I've shown, nothing to substantiate that view.
I'm out of here..Have a nice one.
EdmondDantes_
(450 posts)At no point did I say I was more upset about one or the other. If you think you or the original poster couldn't have made the same point without misogynistic language, that's your own limitation and maybe you should take a moment to examine why that is to use your own words. I'm actually pretty reflective on my language which is why I don't use the word bitch to describe someone I don't like.
I'm not sure how post on the Internet about something happening to someone you don't know hardly qualifies as an emotional response that gets a pass on using slurs. It's not an in the moment thing by definition. Would you be making the same remark if the OP used the c word?
Adding the word bitch didn't add anything to the post, and detracted from the point that she's bad for being a bigot. But I guess it's easier to ascribe negative motivations to me than being more introspective. If you can't even consider anything other than your own perspective, that's a you limitation.
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EdmondDantes_
(450 posts)I want a direct citation of me saying that bitch is worse than the n word. You won't be able to do so because I didn't.
That you are so defensive of being allowed to use the word bitch says a lot about your priorities. See how easy that is? You haven't actually addressed what I or other people have said because you're not willing to even consider that you're wrong and you're too busy making things up about what we're saying in an attempt to justify a word you seem the need to defend.
It''s interesting you think using slurs against women is a tone and not a slur. Just out of curiosity, is it only race that's out of bounds? What about homophobic slurs, are they tone or a slur? What about against the Roma, is it okay to say someone gypped me if I promise I don't mean it was all Roma people? Homophobic slurs?
Has it occurred to you that just saying "yes being a racist is bad" wouldn't have added anything by itself? Because it's pretty obvious and doesn't say anything new. On the other hand, saying something to encourage thinking about how someone is using language does add something substantive that wasn't there before. But I will stop responding now because you aren't interested in having a discussion and nothing further I can say will add anything here.
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Scrivener7
(55,608 posts)MASSIVELY derailed this conversation.
Stop digging, dude.
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Scrivener7
(55,608 posts)I'll have to take your word for whether you're a bitch or not.
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Scrivener7
(55,608 posts)demmiblue
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Scrivener7
(55,608 posts)demmiblue
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niyad
(123,592 posts)Stlll shaking my head..
mercuryblues
(15,587 posts)that has a historically been used to shame, dehumanize and demoralize women as nothing more than a dog, is ok - as long as it is used to describe women we disagree with.
Using sexist slurs to call out racist slurs is not ok. Both can be bad. Why do people defend misogynistic terms so vigorously when they would never consider using racist terms for other minority groups?
Pris
(111 posts)It's sexist and misogynistic.
MineralMan
(148,996 posts)Not a great look.
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SoFlaBro
(3,430 posts)BannonsLiver
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EdmondDantes_
(450 posts)I can avoid using racial slurs and misogynistic language at the same time.
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Blue_Adept
(6,451 posts)It's clear what you're prioritizing more than anyone else.
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Blue_Adept
(6,451 posts)Enjoy your stay.
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BannonsLiver
(19,075 posts)Obviously youre more upset about the OPs word choice than what actually happened. This is why we lose.
Abolishinist
(2,495 posts)"And we wonder why we lose elections" subfolder.
BannonsLiver
(19,075 posts)demmiblue
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Torchlight
(4,588 posts)I think that's the intent, regardless of structure.
obamanut2012
(28,445 posts)Gendered slurs aren't considered "as bad" for obvious reasons, but they are. Bitch is as bad as any other slur.
synni
(313 posts)Just as "you guys" can refer to a group of females, as well as males, non-binary people, etc.
whathehell
(30,146 posts)called the N word..That hardly supplants
it's original source and meaning.
mdbl
(6,408 posts)Brainfodder
(7,243 posts)Saw clip of guy talking about how he handles owning 1800 houses.
Another clip mentioned USA has 1 church for every 1000 people, the most in the world.
2 things maybe both simultaneously a cause and symptom?
Initech
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AStern
(275 posts)I assume it's the same one that raised funds for Jan 6th seditionists.
Initech
(104,709 posts)
Whiskeytide
(4,547 posts)but I dont think this news report about her raising $600k used her name anywhere in the article. Im just wondering why.
Stuckinthebush
(11,125 posts)That would be interesting to see. Maybe some public shaming.
Jacson6
(1,210 posts)Aristus
(69,874 posts)And that it was not only okay to call the "bad" ones the n-word, it was actually acceptable because "that's what they are". She even said it right in front of a black lady whom I respected and admired very much, and who was a million-times more of a lady than this other person could ever hope to be. She quit not long after, and I couldn't blame her; but I was sickened to see her go.
Sounded a lot like this waste of human protoplasm.
ShazzieB
(20,522 posts)Reminds me of people I've known who insisted there were "good" ones and "bad" ones, and called the "good" ones "oreo cookies" (meaning it as a compliment)!
Stupids are gonna stupid, and racists are gonna racist. Sadly.
TommyT139
(1,365 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,337 posts)The IRS does not consider it income.
TommyT139
(1,365 posts)Walleye
(40,001 posts)Apparently, in magaland ugliness is cool.
obamanut2012
(28,445 posts)Walleye
(40,001 posts)If someone calls me or anyone a gender slur, it just makes them smaller in my opinion, a person to steer clear of Im getting so pissed at the immature filthy treatment. They are giving to our freshman congresswoman Sarah McBride. Id like to tell Nancy Mace to go to her local bar and she can behave like that but not in Congress
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,619 posts)The mere fact she raised over a half million dollars gives me the shivers that hate and racism exists there.
Rochester has become more diverse in population since 2000. More people from other parts of the world moved there to work and raise a family. The Mayo Clinic has a workforce diverse as well. I always have felt safe there.
As the saying goes...One rotten apple spoils the entire bushel.
niyad
(123,592 posts)Very disappointing.
JustAnotherGen
(34,850 posts)about theoreticals that take away from the actual AWFUL racist AmeriKKKan behavior made worse by THOUSANDS of racist Americans giving her money for being a vicious abusive piece of shit to a little boy who is Black.
Kiandria Demone is the women who worked to identify the payment platform and has rounded up this little boy's aunties (including me) to go after this vicious little worthless piece of shit.
https://thegrio.com/2025/05/07/shiloh-hendrix-raised-over-600k-after-calling-a-black-child-a-racial-slur-kiandria-demone-is-making-sure-she-never-sees-a-cent/
Thats who has some accountability, she continued. The bank cant just do whatever they want to do. A payment processor they cannot just do whatever they want to do. They have a policy and they have regulations, there are laws, there are people who monitor that, there are people that the payment processor has to answer to.
The 33-year-old social media disrupter has launched an effort to prevent Hendrix from receiving any money from her campaign on GiveSendGo, which has netted over $600,000. (The ask has since been increased to $1 million.) By directing her nearly 50k followers and all who want to help to put pressure on the fundraising platform and payment processor by making complaints, she hopes to hold them accountable for profiting off of hate.
When the hostility from Black Americans hits folks - this is why. It's ALL a lie for us. Every little bit of the false narrative about equality and justice.
Being a white racist woman who cries boo hoo for catching it on the ass for a being a cruel sick twist to a little kid gets you REWARDED. God fucking forbid you call her a bitch! (something blah blah intersection)
Choking a man to death on a subway gets you rewarded.
Luigi is a 'folk hero' but the man who saw his son shot to death on a bodycam is a 'zero' for seeing red and being a FATHER.
Now with all I've said - wouldn't you prefer that instead of me hoping she chokes to death - I would have called her a 'bitch'. Because to me? Calling her a racist bitch is being nice.
#WeGotUs
spooky3
(37,440 posts)Last edited Thu May 8, 2025, 03:58 PM - Edit history (1)
But dont use a sexist slur. You have plenty of options.
JustAnotherGen
(34,850 posts)I won't be tone policed under any circumstances.
You do realize Shiloh's information has been doxed to death - right? Send her a letter telling her it's alright to call a little boy a bratty idiotic hateful child - but not to call him a hard-er n-word.
If you think that's bad - You oughta hear what I call Kristi Fake Face Noem when her ugly ass shows up on the t.v. during the evening news. My husband keeps the remote control in hand the entire time to reduce the screaming of 'change over from that ' ....'. Bitch is nice.
What can I say? I have a very good Brit friend who uses it all of the time. Her toaster has been called a c-word when I'm on the phone with her.
BannonsLiver
(19,075 posts)And by odd I mean totally fucking bonkers.
JustAnotherGen
(34,850 posts)I don't buy the "be the better person" bullshit.
Am I sane and humane?
Yes.
And I might use vile words to describe the others - but at least Im not insane and inhumane like thrm.
Folks better wake up and realize we are in a culture war. Fight dirty and win.
delisen
(6,975 posts)JustAnotherGen
(34,850 posts)IzzaNuDay
(960 posts)Female dogs are typically loving and attentive to their young and to others.
obamanut2012
(28,445 posts)You call one woman a gendered slur, you are calling all of us one. That's how it works. And, for some reason, gendered slurs aren't considered "as bad" as other slurs.
MorbidButterflyTat
(2,914 posts)That is not how I feel at all, as a woman. The OP specifically identified who was being discussed. The OP wasn't talking about me.
BannonsLiver
(19,075 posts)Im convinced many never get out, watch TV, see movies or participate in society if they're reaching for the smelling salts over a word choice in the OP. Or maybe the over the top outrage is just performative?
delisen
(6,975 posts)Often virtue-signalers seem like a safe landing strip.
Scold and lecture all you choose but I choose to recognize every human beings right to respect equally.
BannonsLiver
(19,075 posts)Bonx
(2,328 posts)GoneOffShore
(17,795 posts)I need a door buzzard!
Easterncedar
(4,341 posts)Its not hard to do
634-5789
(4,468 posts)Boomerproud
(8,753 posts)Joe Rogan calls it a victory that he can use it and his fans love it. That fact that he's so influential says everything about where we are that I don't have to expound upon.
LetMyPeopleVote
(162,737 posts)This fundraiser is doing well for this racist asshole in part because the MAGA assholes are mad at a fundraiser for a victim of MAGA hatred and wanted to compete
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