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allegorical oracle

(5,389 posts)
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:06 PM Jun 10

Mean no disrespect to veterans, but just viewed an aerial photo of tanks being taken into DC

for the big parade. A long line of trucks or rail with dozens of gray tanks aboard. Frankly, they all look alike.

What is the fascination with tanks?? Seems that if you've seen one tank, you've seen most tanks. Big, gray hulks of steel with guns. Accept that each has its special use. But boring beyond words unless you're into tanks, especially given the costs that moving them into the city entails (plus necessary road reconstruction).

Are they some sort of power symbol that I don't get?

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Mean no disrespect to veterans, but just viewed an aerial photo of tanks being taken into DC (Original Post) allegorical oracle Jun 10 OP
No clue. Guessing compensating... SheltieLover Jun 10 #1
With a penis as small and limp as Trump's C_U_L8R Jun 10 #2
Yes... And plenty of MAGA males share this insecurity quite obviously hlthe2b Jun 10 #4
Precisely. (Horse) mounted police officers are way sexier to me. Tanks, well, allegorical oracle Jun 10 #13
Sadly, horses are abused... TommyT139 Jun 10 #27
On that note I heard tRump threw a fit when they were going to display a mushroom shaped missile. nt ImNotGod Jun 10 #12
It still would be more exhilarating than a rectangular block of gray steel. allegorical oracle Jun 10 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 10 #30
Hmmmm... GP6971 Jun 10 #31
Echoing That Hmmmm ProfessorGAC Jun 10 #32
Sounds serious Torchlight Jun 10 #33
He's copying Saddam Hussein UpInArms Jun 10 #3
Well, if that's an omen as to how things will work out with djt, it's impressive. allegorical oracle Jun 10 #15
Same as big guns, big trucks, loud cars...etc. CousinIT Jun 10 #5
His VROOM!! VROOM!! , ran out of gas. Ping Tung Jun 10 #9
Nothing says Happy Birthday! like rolling tanks through the streets Torchlight Jun 10 #6
Golf carts would be more appropriate for Bone Spur Donnie. Ping Tung Jun 10 #7
Which rather suggests he's have a vicarious military experience. Cravings for power. bucolic_frolic Jun 10 #10
Sounds good to me! Abolishinist Jun 10 #20
bicycle motorcycle car pickup truck giant lifted pickup truck TANK LeftinOH Jun 10 #8
These kind of displays were considered unnecessary Klarkashton Jun 10 #11
It's a show of force. Look what we got! underpants Jun 10 #16
Many tanks is a lot scarier than one tank. Ocelot II Jun 10 #17
Great explanation -- the long line thingy. So, it doesn't matter if you're the most powerful allegorical oracle Jun 10 #19
It's reassuring for men worried about the size of their penis. Remember Trump has tiny hands and fingers surfered Jun 10 #18
Nobody should refer to the event as Danascot Jun 10 #21
Tanks Are Big, Ugly, and Mean-Looking MineralMan Jun 10 #22
Hah. Can you imagine a parade with a flyover of buzzing little drones & no tanks? Hekate Jun 10 #24
Depends. You can have them make pretty formations in the sky. MineralMan Jun 10 #25
This has nothing to do with veterans, nor any active duty personnel. It's his Generalissimo complex... Hekate Jun 10 #23
Tanks are obsolete. Trump is obsolete. Tariffs are obsolete. usonian Jun 10 #26
Tiananmen Square Protests 1989 Onthefly Jun 10 #28
Ex-tanker here; also current tank enthusiast. Aristus Jun 10 #29
Yup, also susceptible to drones Metaphorical Jun 10 #34
Every generation of tank has faced an anti-tank weapon that everyone insisted would put an end to the age of tanks. Aristus Jun 10 #35
Most likely Metaphorical Jun 14 #36
It'd be way cheaper and easier Sparkly Jun 14 #37

C_U_L8R

(47,695 posts)
2. With a penis as small and limp as Trump's
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:08 PM
Jun 10

It's only natural that he feels compelled to overcompensate.

allegorical oracle

(5,389 posts)
13. Precisely. (Horse) mounted police officers are way sexier to me. Tanks, well,
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jun 10

they're about as exciting as a carton of eggs.

TommyT139

(1,650 posts)
27. Sadly, horses are abused...
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:24 PM
Jun 10

...in those contexts. You may have seen the video posted in the last day or so where LA cops were for ing their horses to injure protesters already in the ground. Such animal abuse merits the death penalty, and not for the non-consenting horse.

In general, a person seeing mounted officers as "sexy" instead of terrorizing implies which side of power imbalance their perspective might be rooted in. That's saying nothing specific about you, but as a general thing, attributing "sexiness" or positive erotic power to symbols of authoritarianism is a long-overdue conversation happening in the fetish and kink communities -- hopefully it will trickle out to thoughtful people more broadly. It certainly could give insight to why Trumpists perceive Trump's cruelty as a measure of his power.

ImNotGod

(880 posts)
12. On that note I heard tRump threw a fit when they were going to display a mushroom shaped missile. nt
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:30 PM
Jun 10

Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #2)

UpInArms

(53,146 posts)
3. He's copying Saddam Hussein
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:09 PM
Jun 10

Picture Gallery: Saddam's surprise parade

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1096493.stm

Monday, 1 January, 2001, 19:53 GMT


Tanks roll down Baghdad's Grand Celebrations Ground

Can’t get the picture to post … pics at link

CousinIT

(11,651 posts)
5. Same as big guns, big trucks, loud cars...etc.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jun 10

They are all manifestations of male insecurity when used as props like this. I'm ashamed our military is being reduced to marionettes in this way, just to salve the insecurity of the criminal bully in thief. They have their purpose in theatres of war, but not as goddamned props.

Torchlight

(5,161 posts)
6. Nothing says Happy Birthday! like rolling tanks through the streets
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jun 10

especially when it only costs us the equivalent of 14 million nutritious meals. Totally worth it.

Abolishinist

(2,649 posts)
20. Sounds good to me!
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jun 10


The other day, I noticed I've been paying for but haven't used in a long time the Midjourney app. So I typed in "a barbie golf cart followed by more barbie golf carts driving by the white house" and got this.

Klarkashton

(3,670 posts)
11. These kind of displays were considered unnecessary
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:25 PM
Jun 10

We all are forced to pay taxes for this shit and that's enough. We don't need to show admiration or celebrate about this, have our noses rubbed into it.

Ocelot II

(126,103 posts)
17. Many tanks is a lot scarier than one tank.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:47 PM
Jun 10

A whole long line of them is intended to symbolize the vast might of the Army. It's kind of like buying the biggest pickup truck you can afford and rolling coal with it because you have a small, flaccid dick.

allegorical oracle

(5,389 posts)
19. Great explanation -- the long line thingy. So, it doesn't matter if you're the most powerful
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:07 PM
Jun 10

SOB on the planet. Your worth is signified in the numbers -- quantity of military paraphernalia. Kinda like being worth billions instead of mere millions. The sexual overcompensation factor is a valued (but obvious) insight, too.



surfered

(8,028 posts)
18. It's reassuring for men worried about the size of their penis. Remember Trump has tiny hands and fingers
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 01:55 PM
Jun 10

Danascot

(5,084 posts)
21. Nobody should refer to the event as
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:49 PM
Jun 10

"Trump's tiny mushroom dick military parade". It might hurt his feelings.

MineralMan

(149,504 posts)
22. Tanks Are Big, Ugly, and Mean-Looking
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 02:54 PM
Jun 10

At one time, they were important in ground wars. However, as we saw in Ukraine, they are vulnerable to attack by little drones that can blow them up. Russia lost tons of them before they figured out they were going to be pretty useless.

But, they look dangerous and deadly, so Trump wants them in his parade. They're not really suited for close urban quarters, either, but never mind. They're ugly, noisy and impressive-looking. That's all that matters to Trump.

MineralMan

(149,504 posts)
25. Depends. You can have them make pretty formations in the sky.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:11 PM
Jun 10

They're not as scary, though. Tanks are, with their big penis-looking guns sticking out and pointing at things. Plus the tanks make lots of noise and vibration. Scary stuff, indeed.

What would be funny is for people to have some drones in the crowd and fly them over the parade, dropping water balloons full of "Elon Musk" cologne. Splat! Splat! Yes, indeed.

And speaking of Depends, I hear that Donnie has switched to a catheter to handle his incontinence.

Hekate

(98,600 posts)
23. This has nothing to do with veterans, nor any active duty personnel. It's his Generalissimo complex...
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jun 10

It’s all about his admiration of the dictators of the world and their ability to throw a parade for themselves — with tens of thousands of troops goose-stepping along, the biggest heaviest most macho weaponry vroom-vrooming along, many giganzo missile-phalluses, and bigly tanks. China, North Korea, USSR, Iraq/Saddam Hussein.

Now as it happens there are capital cities in this world that were constructed to take that, huge wide boulevards and reinforced roadways, such as the above.

Washington DC was not — it was decided early on that we were not having any kings or dictators and therefore didn’t need to set a stage for them. So in Mango Mussolini’s first term “his” generals told him No, and he never got over it.

Bigly tanks, baby, very macho.

Aristus

(70,425 posts)
29. Ex-tanker here; also current tank enthusiast.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jun 10

Tanks, like several other battlefield weapons, have morphed into something their designers likely never intended. From the dominant weapon on mid-to-late 20th Century battlefields, to a symbol of autocratic tyranny and violent repression.

The Soviet Union's method of winning wars was to flood the battlefield with immense amounts of cheaply-made, and often sub-standard weapons, including tanks, to overwhelm an enemy (like the Nazis) who might have better tanks, just not enough of them to overcome their numeric disadvantage. The USSR produced so many tanks, around 100,000 of the T-54/55 series for example, that even poor nations could afford a small fleet of them. They were not usually enough to provide a capable national defense. But they were great for military parades celebrating whichever autocrat was currently in power. Small, poor African nations like Uganda and the Central African Republic used the ubiquitous T-55 to literally crush any political opposition from their cowed, terrified populations.

Trump's parade is no doubt intended to intimidate all of us who oppose him and his tinhorn bid for absolute power. I don't think it will work.

In a similar way as above, the Soviet-designed AK-47 assault rifle was intended as the primary weapon of Soviet line infantry in conventional ground warfare. But as with the T-55 tank, so many were made that the rifle became dirt cheap, and so any terrorist or resistance organization could pick up enough to start a revolution. The AK-47 is now more identified with irregular warfare than conventional warfare.

Metaphorical

(2,477 posts)
34. Yup, also susceptible to drones
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:09 PM
Jun 10

Drones are fantastic antitank weapons - from a drone perspective, a tank is a mobile coffin, as can be attested by the number of tanks that were abandoned by their Russian crews in Ukraine once drone attacks began in earnest - and the number of said tanks that the Ukrainians consequently took over as anti-tank weapons of their own.

I have to wonder what's going to happen when protesters start standing in front of those tanks during the parade. You know that it will happen.

Aristus

(70,425 posts)
35. Every generation of tank has faced an anti-tank weapon that everyone insisted would put an end to the age of tanks.
Tue Jun 10, 2025, 04:46 PM
Jun 10

World War I - the anti-tank rifle.
World War II - The anti-tank rocket (bazooka, the Panzerfaust, etc.
The Vietnam, Arab-Israeli, and Gulf Wars - The TOW; Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire-guided missile.
Russia-Ukraine - anti-tank drones.

While drones are very effective, and I can't wait until Russia finally throws in the towel, someone better than the Russians will come up with an anti-drone system that will restore the balance again, at least for a little while. Build a better anti-tank weapon system, someone will build a better tank.

Metaphorical

(2,477 posts)
36. Most likely
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Jun 14

I'm guessing mobile tank drone platforms that are well armored but intended primarily as counter-drone drones for engagement and that would travel in conjunction with traditional tank battalions. I can also see drone scramblers that would be shielded but could carry non-nuclear EMP bombs (most likely Microwave) - and even if they are not shielded, are still kamikaze weapons that would hurt drones more than it would tanks.

Sparkly

(24,701 posts)
37. It'd be way cheaper and easier
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 05:19 PM
Jun 14

to buy dear leader some toy tanks and little green plastic soldiers. His cabinet could tell him how brilliant his little war games are, and the world would be better off.

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