Americans are going to have to cut off their MAGA family and friends if they haven't already

[OrlandoDem2]

There can no longer be “normal” relations with Trump voters.

No longer can we just look the other way. No longer can we just engage nicely with Trump voters by politely avoiding political discussions.

Elections have consequences and it’s time that the political Civil/Cold War that America is in takes another step.

I have cut off friends who I know voted for Trump. And now I’m moving to family members. They don’t get to enjoy my company ever again.

[Walleye]

1. Treat them like they support rape, and assaults on women. Because that's what he does.

[hamsterjill]

2. Good grief!! You're just now cutting ties???!!!

I did it in 2016 and have not regretted it. Their values do not align with mine. I don’t fight with them; I just don’t interact with them.

I live in a very red area and I do have to transact business with some people who support him. But I do that only if I can’t figure out another way around it.

[gopiscrap]

49. I did it in 1980 when Reagam was elected

I told my father in law that I hope he dies...I never let my kids meet their grandparents because the grand parents were republicans. I did go to their funerals so I could dance on their graves and make sure they were dead

[Polybius]

60. 1984 must have been rough

There were way way more Regan supporters in 1984 than MAGA in 2024.

[Autumn]

3. i did that in January. I don't regret it at all.

[Grim Chieftain]

35. Same here

Family, decades long friendships, all gone. If you support Trump and his evil agenda it tells me all I need to know about you.

[ToxMarz]

4. "They don't get to enjoy my company ever again.'

Agree, I haven't enjoyed their company for a very long time. In fact, I can't stand them!

[BonnieJW]

24. Me too

I was shocked to discover that three friends voted for trp 3 times. These people are smart and accomplished. They wave when they see me, and I wave back. That's it. I do not engage.
I don't care about their feelings or their health or their families. Fuck 'em.

[AllaN01Bear]

31. this shocks me too is the smart ppl who vote for him

[gopiscrap]

51. you're doing it wrong...when they wave

you should give them the finger

[Ponietz]

5. Indifference is more dangerous than hate

I cut family ties to Lumpers in 2017. I’m comfortable in my solitude.
Today it’s non voters’ indifference which draws my particular scorn.
We’ve restrained treasonous Confederates (more or less) since the Civil War. They’ve always been here.
But apathetic non-participation allowed the traitors to regain their corrupt power.

[harumph]

9. Agree. It's the non-participation of those who would typically benefit from democratic policies.

Problem is both a lack of information reaching those people and many likely feel hopeless.

[Ponietz]

10. A big part of why Hogg wants to reinvigorate the Party

[ILikePie92]

20. Yes!

Agreed! I don't understand why people can't see this.

[Conjuay]

6. I had a neighbor put out a trump sign during 2020 campaign

Has not gotten so much as a nod from me since.
Nor will he.

[NoMoreRepugs]

7. Easy to do? Initially you may find it troubling but saving your sanity is worth it IMO.

[speak easy]

8. People who get off on cruelty

revolt me. They are not worth a second of my time: Family, 'friends', collegues; I have to take the hardest line.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

11. As sad as it is

More needs to be done. If you are willing to be trained in safety and marksmanship, and you have highly secure areas in which to safely store them, arm yourselves. BUT ONLY if you are willing to be a responsible, trained firearms owner. If not, don’t even consider it.

The reality is, unless the unlikely action of Congressional Republicans standing up and stopping the fascists in their tracks, we are headed for terrible times. And Trump humpers, family or not will be encouraged to be violent.

It sucks to be where we are today, but the sadness doesn’t change the reality of the situation.

[Paladin]

12. Get rid of ALL the trump trash in your life---MAGA friends and family included.

Accept the fact that we are now at war for our very survival, and take what steps are necessary.

[ZDU]

13. Agreed

You have my full support; I fully agree.

[Aristus]

14. My wife's side of the family are all MAGAts.

She hasn't spoken to them in years.

[dedl67]

15. "Pick friends who demonstrate qualities you aspire to embody." Aristotle

That disqualifies Magats

[hay rick]

16. Been there, done that.

It's called treating people like adults. They are responsible for their actions.

[orangecrush]

17. Thanks anyway, and welcome to DU

Talking to my family and friends who fell for Trump's bullshit is more important now than ever, as long as they will listen I will talk.

Interesting profile, btw

[blubunyip]

82. IF you can talk to them

civilly. But that's the problem. Their minds are closed. If you can get through to them without having it escalate, OK. However if they bait you, I would never respond. Absolutely it is never worth it to chomp down hard on their bait.

Thankfully I don't have MAGAS or Maga leaners in my close family. I do have some of those R-voting "fiscal conservative" Magas in extended family and in-laws. The "I Got Mine" crowd. I have not seen them since before the Pandemic and don't plan to. I would not go to their funerals.

I hold them responsible for this mess. They know what they've done. They are not worth my time. No regrets.

[Auggie]

18. Bullshit. That only divides us further.

[azureblue]

25. Bullshit

they did the dividing years ago, when they mocked us and refused to converse with us. It's called what goes around, comes around.
And as always, you do not negotiate with tyrants. Even if they are in your own family. When they change, then we'll listen to them, but they started it.

[OrlandoDem2]

34. So. Much. This. Well-stated!

[gopiscrap]

52. even if they change I wouldn't talk with them

once you're a republican, once you're a MAGA, you're dead to me and I would just as soon see you actually dead. That goes for family and former friends

[Polybius]

61. That's a bit harsh

I stupidly voted for Bob Dole in 1996 because "he looked like a President" and was in WWII. I was a boy who knew nothing about politics. While my vote didn't change anything, I had no business voting as a teen. I don't think punishing a kid for the rest of his life is a good idea.

[orangecrush]

28. Agree

[lostnfound]

81. It depends. Hoping to heal the country someday? or punish people for being selfish fools?

I agree with you. I’m not very social, though, so not bothering to keep in touch is easy.
But every day I am trying to figure out how in the he** the US will ever pull itself back out of fascism. How the he** to break the spell that they are under.

Every day i com up with nothing, except i know that the experts not he subject say that the ONLY way is for people to have richer one-on-one communication with friends, families, neighbors.

So people saying cut off family members? Whatever remote possibility exists of transforming the HEART of America into something HUMAN again evaporates with those tactics.

[OC375]

19. No offense

They are my family and friends and I care about them. I would rather go out of my way to temper their hate, even if only by example. When you stop talking, you have wars, be they personal or international. I won't feed a war, no matter how noble.

[OrlandoDem2]

22. Likewise, and respectfully, there is nothing you can do to temper their hate.

Anyone STILL supporting Trump is a lost cause.

It doesn’t mean I don’t care deeply for family and friends. But i question their values so much that I can no longer tolerate them

It’s no longer left vs right. This is now about right vs wrong.

[orangecrush]

29. I can plant seeds on rocky ground

There is always a chance.

[gopiscrap]

54. Bullshit once they join the MAGA's they are nothing

but rapist apologists, xenophobic, homophobic shit stain scum on the asshole of humanity

[OC375]

71. Normally...

Based on your behavior, I'd normally be tempted to call your family a bunch of terrible things too. In person, I'd be tempted to do much more. But, I'm trying to be better than that... I don't know your family and it's not really on me to render judgement. Calling my family "rapist apologists, xenophobic, homophobic shit stain scum on the asshole of humanity" isn't cool. Peace out, man.

[Magilla]

69. 100pct correct

You said what I wanted to but couldn't find the proper words.

It is just plain wrong to abandon your children or parents over political differences.

With some exceptions of course. I find many of the comments very troubling and wish folks would reconsider their positions.

I would sacrifice a year of my life just to spend one day with my dad.

[berkerly6240]

72. Agreed.. cutting off dialogue, isolation will lead to civil war..and trust me we dont want that.

[Coventina]

77. Your family is trying to kill my family. Fuck your family.

If your family supports the policies of this administration, they support the murder of members of my family, including myself.
People are literally DYING because of the policies enacted by this administration.

Their policies affect members of my blood family and my family of choice.

FUCK YOUR FAMILY IF THEY SUPPORT THIS!

I'm not saying it's easy to do. I've posted many threads on this board about the brutal end of my relationship with my father because of his support of Trump.

It's not easy, but they are on the side of evil.

There is no middle ground anymore. Sadly, they are either against this administration, or they have chosen evil.

Where that leaves you, is either siding with supporters of evil, or choosing otherwise.

[OC375]

79. Garbage

Best of luck. You seem broken.

[ILikePie92]

21. You can't fix STOOPID

Anyone who STILL supports that piece of trash has no business being around me.

[pfitz59]

23. Just thinking that today

My MAGA family and friends are wholly invested in Trump. There's no turning back for them. No logic. No reason. No truth will sway them. He's their guy.

[Joinfortmill]

26. I hear you.

[SSJVegeta]

27. They generally already did that by rejecting all forms of information and rationality.

[Ritabert]

30. I did it long ago

[mgardener]

32. I have posted this before

I cut ties to my MAGA cousin during COVID.
Anti vaxxer, got Covid during treatment for lung cancer and died.
I mourned the cousin he used to be.
I am sorry I did not get to say goodbye.
And tell him what he meant to me while we were growing up.

[rrze]

33. Completely agree

Sister is full-blown maga-moron said I should be killed for my beliefs. Her husband has a glock on his fat-waist 24/7 and refuses to watch the NFL or even shop at Walmart. My high school best friend (who now literally lives in van by the river) thinks only the military should get a vote. There is no reason to ever engage with these people again while I'm on this planet. They try to contact me form time-to-time for some odd reason (probably to gloat) but I have blocked them permanently.

[Lilithschyld]

36. Oddly enough, I haven't had anyone like that in my life for a long time.

It happened long before the 2016 election. Not really sure how that happened.

[LittleGirl]

37. Good for you

but some of us out here can't do that and you should respect that.

I've cut off friends (that weren't really close) but family is different. They are blood. I have very few family members left and we can avoid politics easily because there is so much more to life than this shitshow.

I will not let that administration ruin what relationships I have with my family. He can go fuck himself (IQ45).

Carry on.

[democrank]

38. I did a clean sweep some time ago.

I also don’t spend a nickel at any business that has any support Trump BS in their windows. Trump supporters have no place in my life.

[Orrex]

39. Gladly (nt)

[kimbutgar]

40. I'm going to Arizona next week to visit my mother in law

And dread having to encounter my smug maga brother in law and some of my husbands nephews. I smile and keep the conversation with them limited. I have to self censor myself around them.

[DonCoquixote]

41. Suppose we take morality out of the equation

now that some in power gleefully support violence against us, cutting off Maga is a matter of SURVIVAL. They may love you, but the people who will have you walked right into the back room may be convinced that this is the best thing for you. If you died, it was simply God's will, or Survival of the fittest, which mantra fits.

[purple_haze]

42. No way

There is no reality in which I would ever cut off my *family* for something as stupid as politics.

Fuck Trump. But my family comes first. My family and I are ride or die.

[ProfessorGAC]

44. Why?

Families are accidents of birth.
Why is it so sacrosanct?
Oh, and welcome to DU.

[purple_haze]

45. "accidents of birth"

My parents chose to have me and then they chose to have my siblings. My siblings and I grew up and came of age together. I chose my partner and my partner and I chose to have our children. Literally nothing in my life has been an accident of birth.

There is nothing in this world up to and including my own life that is more important to me than my family.

Politics is generally a passing fad with quite a bit of bread and circuses thrown in for good measure. It will never interfere with the love and bond that my family and I share.

There will always be a new cultural issue or a new moral issue or a new knuckleheaded politician or a new savior. Flavors sometimes change by the week. My family is forever and I can rely on them under any circumstance no matter what. Only by my death will I ever sacrifice that bond.

[ProfessorGAC]

46. Seems Dramatic

I choose my friends. I didn't choose my family.
I'm not estranged from any of them. Only one, however, would be someone I would have chosen as a friend.
But, I consider friends to be of higher value. They share similar outlooks, likes, dislikes, and ethics.
We disagree to a great degree on this.

[gopiscrap]

56. that's the problem

we have folks who equivocate, and make exceptions because of friendship and family. I say fuck family and friends if they support trump and his agenda otherwise we will lose

[marble falls]

70. Absolutely. I might make some adjustment to how often or in what way we communicate but my 2nd to youngest ...

... brother is still my brother Mike. He threatens to send his son to live with uncle and aunt Marble Falls went Jaylen argues against TACO/MAGA.

Now my sister Judy, she's meth friendly and a "borrower" of things you never see again. The line is open but things gotta change first. Her two boys? I'd be proud of them if they were mine.

Weird, but all 28 of my nephews and nieces have done very well for themselves and are just good people.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

73. Welcome to DU

[Meadowoak]

43. I put them all to the curb in 2016. Best thing I've ever done.

[Roc2020]

47. I'm at that line as well

No way I can communicate normally with a family member that approves of this man. As little interaction as possible and only surface politeness.

[gopiscrap]

48. we should of done that when Nixon was elected and continued to do it

When Reagan was elected, I told my father in law to fuck off and die...they never got to see their grandchildren and I am so glad I kept my kinds from their mind pollution efforts

[Happy Hoosier]

50. Still have ties with MAGA MIL

Kinda have to. She's 93. My wife's brother is basically a non-functional human. My MIL is losing her memory. My wife feels an obligation to care for her. Other than that. fuck the MAGAts.

[Maru Kitteh]

53. Yeah. Not cutting off my 85yo MIL w/lung cancer

[gopiscrap]

55. she'd be dead to me fuck her, she drank the koolaide

[Maru Kitteh]

64. Okay then.

[BannonsLiver]

75. Nor should you, if that's what you want.

I'm not a big fan of other people telling me what to do and some of the responses to the OP are nuttier than squirrel shit.

[Omnipresent]

57. Start giving them that look like Justice Amy Coney Barrett gave trump, at his 'State of the Union' address.

[ImNotGod]

58. I've done that years ago. nt

[democratsruletheday]

59. Perfect post OD2....

eff them all. Just no shits given anymore toward them and their utter ignorance and racism

[mahina]

62. No thanks. If you think we can do this alone, I would like to point you to the 2016 and 2024 election results.

Plus, they are my family.

Far from your conclusion, my conclusion is that we need to have the awkward conversations and find the common ground starting yesterday

The United States no longer has its sovereignty. That’s why everything he does is pointed to a result that will hurt the American people.

That’s something that people of any political strupe can reject and must.

No kings!

[Mountain Mule]

63. My landlady has Trump signs on her front lawn and never takes them down

I used to like her but now I keep my interactions with her to an absolute minimum. I have tried and tried to understand MAGAts but it's impossible. They enjoy cruelty and hate those who happen to have been born with the wrong color of skin. They are bitterly angry about everything and they are bitterly victims of everything. Donald whines and MAGAts howl back louder than every last demon in hell.

I wash my hands of them.

[Raine]

65. NO thanks... nt

[onenote]

66. "Have to"? Sorry I don't take mandates from internet posters

If some people choose to follow that path, fine. And if others choose not to, that’s fine too. IMO, no one here has standing to sit in judgment of their fellow DUers choices of how they relate to family members.

[GoodRaisin]

67. Got rid of my magats a long time ago once I realized they held no value

in my life.

[MauiPepe]

68. Cutting off family

What took you so long? I cut mine off during his first administration. #TotalLosers

[hwmnbn]

74. Did that during first trump administration...

Have never looked back.

[Hassler]

76. I'm fortunate to live 2000 miles from my magat family members.

Don't know what I would do if I still lived near them, but I do know toxic family relationships can affect the nontoxic members. Like have an out of control drug user, alcoholic or rage-aholic. That kind of behavior needs intervention or isolation from the affected family.

[La Coliniere]

78. Luckily all my immediate family are fully onboard with

doing what we can to be resistors of the fascist dump cult and their agenda. It’s a different story for many of my extended family members who are full on MAGA cult members. I’ve been alienated from them since 2016 with absolutely no regrets. I’ve never had any conservative close friends, but the more casual friendships I’ve had with conservatives, like gym acquaintances, neighbors and past coworkers, have been dampened, and again, I have no regrets.

[Iggo]

80. maga family free since shitler's first term.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

83. Nah. My family surpasses politics, always.

Although I suspect my folks voted Trump, with reasonable certainty, I don't KNOW. They've never told me. Same with most of my extended family. But at the end of the day, push comes to shove, we all pull in the same direction when it comes to matters of family or safety. If one of us is down and out and needs help, everyone contributes. There's no question of politics or religion or extremism, we're part of one unit and if one of us needs, we all need. Our family is a better safety net than anything the government could provide.

I know I'm lucky in that regard, and there's not a day that goes by that I don't thank the universe for it. But throwing that away over petty politics that in the end none of us can control is the most idiotic thing any one of us could do.

YMMV, of course, but not every person out there is a rabid politico. In fact most aren't.

[Iggo]

84. My family posts pictures of themselves in their maga hats.

Fuck ‘em.

[Hellbound Hellhound]

86. I mean, that's fine, but why? Because they're wearing hats?

Someone in my family wears a Buffalo Bills hat but I'm a Miami Dolphins fan. Should I say "fuck 'em" and cut him out of my life forever?

I understand the concept trying to be conveyed, but for the vast majority of people, they're just voting their financial interests. All the "Cut them out" people are doing is saying "Nyah nyah, your team is evil". It was stupid when the Trumpies did it when Biden is in office and it's stupid now.

Most people don't think beyond their pocketbooks when they vote. Very few people, when they pull the lever, consciously say "Fuck them Liberals and their healthcare and social safety net". By cutting family out, you're letting THOSE ones win while punishing your mostly-apolitical family members who just see it as a sports game.

[UTUSN]

85. Done, since 2015! - actually, going back to all their previous incarnations BIRCHers etc.