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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhile we are focused on Padilla (and deservedly so)
I would just like to point out what Noem actually said she intends to do. Before they dragged a sitting US Senator out of the room (who HAD identified himself), she said this:
We are staying here to liberate the city from the socialists and the burdensome leadership that this governor and that this mayor have placed on this country."
As Ron Filipkowski just pointed out, "That's not what the military is supposed to do. That's called a military coup."
To put it even more plainly, they have no right to "liberate" California voters from the representatives and policies that the voters VOTED FOR IN CALIFORNIA. Nothing gives them that right.

Irish_Dem
(70,749 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)I think this is a wakeup call for people who still need it.
Irish_Dem
(70,749 posts)It never is.
BComplex
(9,450 posts)And I think the blowback is going to be very serious.
senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)and I am not usually overly optimistic about the mood of the country changing.
vapor2
(2,511 posts)Afraid of losing their jobs so makes me wonder. No fear of removing 14 million from Medicaid. Drunk with power and greed
druidity33
(6,742 posts)
DENVERPOPS
(12,564 posts)are clawing and scratching their way, to try to make sure THEY all get into that top 1% before the 99% are obliterated..........
As Trump probably points out to all of them: IF I GO, YOU GO........
lostnfound
(17,014 posts)With Palantir / Foundry and no ethical concerns, they can turn the screws on dissent. Possibilities are endless for pressure tactics.
Hornedfrog2000
(251 posts)And nobody did shit about it. When the russians burned documents when it was realized they helped trump win. They were removed from the country. Why? Why werent they arrested for being spies and helping undermine our election boggles my mind to this day. Democrats have done basically nothing but tell us to be patient. People are in denial.
OhioBack2Blue
(58 posts)See Nazi German occupation of France 1940-1944. Terms:
Collaborators
These Dem collaborators think they can make things better, during the fascist occupation of the Divided States of America, but they mostly make things much worse.
Example: Rep Mark Pocan, on Thom Hartman radio: We'll just have to make the best of it, weather it, work with them. (paraphrasing).
There are only 2 tactics proven in history to work: 1) standing up and speaking out against fascism. 2) we all know what #2 is.
lastlib
(26,103 posts)...and millions have been hitting snooze the entire time. I shake my head and wonder what it will take to get them to actually wake up and bring this futhermucker down.
RandomNumbers
(18,659 posts)Sorry but that is the real problem.
I am thoroughly disgusted with the people I know who voted for this shit.
But how do we fix it?
calimary
(86,625 posts)We CANT throw in the towel and give up. Thats something we just CANNOT do.
senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)and although what's happening is meant to depress us, we can't let them succeed! Non violent protest is powerful and there is no reason we should abdicate that power.
rzemanfl
(30,583 posts)I am going to be 78 soon, but there must be something I can do.
Irish_Dem
(70,749 posts)rzemanfl
(30,583 posts)Irish_Dem
(70,749 posts)bdamomma
(68,548 posts)think so either. We need to push back hard. This disrespect they have for all of us and our country must be stopped. That Project 2025 needs to be burnt in front of their faces. Sorry, my rant.
Nonviolently of course, Saturday is the day. And the world will be watching.
pat_k
(11,319 posts)... And if there is somebody up there, a well-placed lightening strike would be quite nice.
bdamomma
(68,548 posts)Pope will be remotely transmitting a message from Rome to Chicago sometime in the Saturday afternoon.
OldBaldy1701E
(8,024 posts)rzemanfl
(30,583 posts)OldBaldy1701E
(8,024 posts)We need to address the things that have created the inequity that fueled this situation.
Otherwise, it will just happen again and again.
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RVN VET71
(2,914 posts)Noem actually said that these goons and ICE were they as "liberators". Sounds like something Castro might have said after Batista fled Cuba with the Rubio family.
Action, not words, now!
Jack Valentino
(2,296 posts)and on Saturday, in over 1500 cities, many will stand up and be counted....
If they cross the line to shoot American citizens who protest against them,
then all bets will be off.
Tumbulu
(6,557 posts)It is the T administration against the most populated and successful state in the former Union.
There is no more United States. It has been toppled before our eyes.
hamsterjill
(15,999 posts)As I've stated on here many times, I follow a former classmate on Facebook for shits and giggles. She is full on QAnon, and her page (which is public) is claiming that it's all starting - that martial law MUST be enacted to stop the Cabal, but that it will only be in place "for a little while".
Noem is stringing THESE idiots along for as LONG as she can so there's time to get the military in place and they don't realize what's happening.
If martial law is enacted, then it won't be "for just a little while".
malaise
(285,207 posts)They are going to liberate California from Newsom and Bass.- a fucking coup.
Uncle Joe
(61,937 posts)Thanks for the thread senseandsensibility
senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)as depressing as it is, my friend. Still, I feel that this incident is energizing Democracy supporters in this country, and I hope that we can use it to that end.
haele
(14,285 posts)They will just pull out the old lie that "Millions of Undocumented People" voted and overwhelmed the votes of the Real Californians.
Anything to reinforce their fantasy.
And you know after her press conference, Noem had her driver and personal assistants take her down Rodeo Drive for a nice shopping trip.
bromeando
(121 posts)Autocrat showing her true colors
Cha
(311,831 posts)Thats a statement of WAR
surfered
(7,276 posts)Trust_Reality
(2,185 posts)They are fascist followers, chickens, and liars.
live love laugh
(15,442 posts)Think about it.
Karasu
(1,346 posts)bdamomma
(68,548 posts)good, they are thrusting themselves over state leaders and state rights. This is all Stephen Miller orders he wants his White Nationalist Country.
They are assaulting the state of California and its people.
senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)of our response.
live love laugh
(15,442 posts)
TBF
(35,134 posts)Kristi Noem can f off
LymphocyteLover
(8,145 posts)0rganism
(25,146 posts)Star Wars has put forth some mediocre content, but still goes hard for analogies.
ancianita
(40,625 posts)Gov Newsom should issue an executive order that flights from Washington, DC be banned from landing in CA.
The administration attacks CA, provokes rightful defense by CA.
Gangster tyrants attack and declare the victim's defense "attack".
Before the US, the felon's and his loyalist capos' promote their Big Lie against CA.
LostOne4Ever
(9,665 posts)They plan to subvert the democratically elected government to force their will on a people who do not want it!
Damn corrupt fascist!
live love laugh
(15,442 posts)senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)She has made her objectives clear. And I am glad that she did because we can use it to fight those objectives.
GiqueCee
(2,346 posts)... and Republican filth say, "Yeah? So what?"
That tells you all you need to know about these evil swine. Padilla had better press charges; letting this slide is NOT an option. NOT doing so only empowers them further. He has a civic duty to hang these fuckers by their short curlies. Figuratively speaking, of course. Heh, heh, heh.
flashman13
(1,279 posts)Justice matters.
(8,426 posts)2025 Republican Party
eppur_se_muova
(39,128 posts)I didn't know that the Governor of a state could impose burdens on the whole country, much less that a Mayor could.
Every time blue states try to enforce their own voter-sanctioned -- and sometimes voter-initiated -- policies, Uglicans decide they must sacrifice their "states' rights" -- which are only occasionally paramount to Uglicans -- to the diktat of His Royal Majesty and the openly extremist subversives who put him in power.
Noem is obviously hoping to inherit the mantle of MAGA leadership after Turnip is toast, so she's trying to be at least as "Trumpy" as Turnip himself.
Hekate
(98,111 posts)
their plans for years. So here we are: on the threshold of a military coup.
dchill
(42,579 posts)SunSeeker
(55,999 posts)She is attempting an insurrection against the California state government, and to overturn the will of California voters.
senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)to her message.
annielion
(44 posts)First, the exit polls are garbage. No one is monitoring the media, who give us the exit poll info. Second, many of the pre-election polls are also garbage, created by Republicans to skew the polls. Third, there is a great deal of day of election evidence of anomalous votes, showing the election was stolen. The proof of this is coming.
SmartElections.us , a nonpartisan watchdog group, is in the discovery phase of a lawsuit regarding evidence of anomalous votes in Rockland County, New York. SmartElections.us is comparing the ballots in Rockland, New York to the evidence. They may have the proof by September, their next trial date.
ElectionTruthAlliance.org (ETA) is a non-profit, non-partisan organization formed after the 2024 election. They have a great deal of evidence of anomalous votes. They want to do a forensic audit of 3 counties in Pennsylvania but so far the Secretary of State of Pennsylvania is not giving them permission to see the ballots. ETA may have to sue Pennsylvania to get access of ballots in the state.
There is encouraging information at both of these websites.
Joinfortmill
(18,205 posts)JI7
(92,050 posts)rurallib
(63,812 posts)to read all the comments
Nigrum Cattus
(627 posts)Mme. Defarge
(8,718 posts)stillcool
(34,112 posts)she pushed every button I didn't know I had. Enjoy! And those few sentences about freeing the state, not leaving the state are all over the place. It's scary stuff
Mme. Defarge
(8,718 posts)
stillcool
(34,112 posts)
spanone
(139,244 posts)JFC
JustAnotherGen
(35,311 posts)Wingus Dingus
(9,085 posts)I didn't know they sent in military to depose California's elected leaders. That's something very different.
Attilatheblond
(6,256 posts)Homan called for arresting CA Governor and LA Mayor. Can he cite one single law they have violated? NO! He just wants them locked up because they dared to go beyond 'a strongly worded letter'. THAT, ladies & gents is America under the Trump regime; lock up those who will not be silent to a fascist takeover and military force in our streets, masked men (without identification or warrants) kidnapping at will, and self appointed vigilantes posing as ICE agents doing what the hell they want just because they bought a tactical vest and pinned on some phony insignia or label.
If Trump had half a brain, he'd be cancelling any/all appearances. The people who want total control don't really need him anymore but know he could be more helpful to them as a rally cry rather than the pretend 'leader' he plays on TV
orchidlady
(18 posts)her reason for doing this is... ideological!!
no crime, just... political inclination. one they've demonized to an orwellian degree for decades.
not likely to fly in court. assuming courts will continue to be allowed.
Grins
(8,465 posts)Show me where that is in your job description? THATS NOT YOUR JOB!!!!
raccoon
(31,875 posts)But it wouldn't register with an idiot like her.
senseandsensibility
(22,471 posts)Good for him!
underpants
(191,022 posts)Shes a member of the cabinet for Fs sake.
SheltieLover
(69,698 posts)
BigmanPigman
(53,169 posts)and bite her into tiny, little chew toys. This vial *$%# needs to be "put down" for real, permanently.
DFW
(58,229 posts)She is just jealous.
And how much longer do we have to endure this "socialist" BS coming from Republican mouths. The ones whose actions, events and pronouncements most resemble those of the failed socialist regimes of the past are the Republicans themselves. If you want to find some socialists, oh Republican clowns, do not look to Democrats, but, rather, in the mirror. You may not be for anything that is part of the socialist ideal, but you in every way represent the worst of what socialism becomes when put into practice by control freaks looking for a pretext to control people.
kkmarie
(189 posts)Does that mean Krasnov wants to "own California " ? You know for it's riches? California has the only rare earth mineral mine in the states. Between the mine and the California coffers it would make Krasnov "bigly " rich
Sure he likes the power of this all, but his bottom line is money
https://californiacurated.com/2025/01/29/the-mountain-pass-mine-in-california-may-be-the-u-s-rare-earths-game-changer/
flamingdem
(40,502 posts)Going forward Trump will have consolidated power. It will be quite the task to remove him and his minions.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,568 posts)Red America has declared war.