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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsShow of hands. Did anyone here NOT BELIEVE that Trump would eventually cause physical harm to Democratic politicians?
I've been working on a few projects this afternoon and just saw the news about Senator Padilla.
And trust me, I'm as pissed off and outraged as anyone here. But what bothers me the most is that I am not surprised that this happened.
REMEMBER Trump's MAGAt rally remarks, in his first term, telling cops to "not be too careful" when handling protesters?
Trump is cruel, if nothing else. HE LOVES TO SEE OTHERS PHYSICALLY HARMED.
So did anyone see this story today and say "I never thought that would happen?" Because for me, I thought it was just a matter of time.

3catwoman3
(26,837 posts)No doubt at all.
nuxvomica
(13,372 posts)Leaders who engage in cruelty are tacitly admitting that their authority is illegitimate and use force to terrorize because they have no other way to ensure they'll stay in power.
SARose
(1,542 posts)Not strength. You are correct.
Trumps whole shtick is his supposed strength - from his shoe lifts to his hideous fitting suits.
Pfffttt
progressoid
(51,472 posts)Anything that 'owns the libs' is good.
vapor2
(2,511 posts)Wounded Bear
(62,142 posts)
The primary instruments of Hitler's action were the Schutzstaffel (SS) paramilitary force under Himmler and its Security Service (SD), and Gestapo (secret police) under Reinhard Heydrich, which between them carried out most of the killings. Göring's personal police battalion also took part. Many of those killed in the purge were leaders of the SA, the best-known being Röhm himself, the SA's chief of staff and one of Hitler's longtime supporters and allies. Leading members of the Strasserist faction of the Nazi Party, including its leader Gregor Strasser, were also killed, as were establishment conservatives and anti-Nazis, such as former Chancellor Kurt von Schleicher and Bavarian politician Gustav Ritter von Kahr, who had helped suppress Hitler's Munich Beer Hall Putsch in 1923. The murders of SA leaders were also intended to improve the image of the Hitler government with a German public that was increasingly critical of thuggish SA tactics.
Johonny
(23,855 posts)He is never leaving that office alive, if he gets his way. And penis boy Johnson is all in. Don't look for help from a house led by him. The mid-terms cannot be lost.
usonian
(18,255 posts)The administration's strategy is to break laws repeatedly until held accountable.
Laws are merely "suggestions" until and unless they are enforced.
The Fascists Playbook
https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/05/08/the-fascists-playbook/
10 Small Steps:
Executing the Fascist Playbook
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/10-small-steps-executing-the-fascist-playbook_b_585dfec2e4b04d7df167cfab
newdeal2
(2,857 posts)Gabby Giffords
Evolve Dammit
(20,783 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(12,088 posts)BUT (and it's a big one) I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller is telling him what to do. He's pulling all the strings and pushing all the buttons now that Eloon is gone.
Tell the truth. Is there anyone here who wouldn't be upset if Stephen Miller were shot dead in broad daylight?
slightlv
(5,772 posts)on what to do are coming from Stephen Miller. In saying that, I'm acknowledging that the United States is being led by a trueform, dyed-in-the-wool Nazi. THIS should not stand. I don't care who he is. If he's a Nazi and he's governing or influencing the governing of this country, someone needs to at least arrest him and charge him with being an enemy of the State, as well as a domestic terrorist. And, while they're at it, they can stop by Bannon's office and add him in to the mix, as well. And if someone would shoot any of these people, the shooters would get as good PR as the guy that took out the health care CEO. Of course, he IS in massive trouble from doing it, but there were a lot of people taking his side, for whatever reasons. I think this would be the same way. In fact, that's where jury nullification might actually come in handy.
ZDU
(425 posts)
Dan
(4,726 posts)What happens now, or later after the next outrage of this administration?
Where is the line in the sand?
BattleRow
(1,625 posts)Dan
(4,726 posts)
BattleRow
(1,625 posts)slightlv
(5,772 posts)but we're not an organized group to do anything. We're several disorganized groups and individuals. Goals are more likely to be achieved when there's an organized group to gather around, and a leader who listens to all, but makes decisions and acts. That's why the coup happened so easily and in plain sight. The R's had been planning this since at least Nixon was in office. And each election they moved closer and closer to achieving their goals.
Our problem is not only are Democrats not an organized group with a charismatic, active leader willing to put everything on the line for the country, but we're time-constrained, too. What R's took decades to achieve, we have weeks... months. A midterm election, if we're lucky. The lines have been drawn in the sand over and over, and the R's just say "make me". What do you do beyond what we're all trying to do right now?
bluestarone
(19,843 posts)Secretly allow russia to send their nuclear missiles at us, as long as they could make it to a fallout shelter first.
swong19104
(432 posts)Female AND a latina.
BaronChocula
(2,828 posts)his veep get lynched by a neo jim crow mob. And that didn't shock me.
He. Is. A. Psychopath.
Evolve Dammit
(20,783 posts)Timidity is why we are here.
electric_blue68
(21,744 posts)THAT'S where I place most of the blame!
In fact I made sure I voted 3 days early in case something might have happened to me on Election Day - my vote was already in!
0rganism
(25,147 posts)I weep for the millions of Americans who will never see it leave
debsy
(606 posts)I am totally not surprised. Sick to my stomach and livid, yes, but surprised? Nope.
Figarosmom
(6,213 posts)To jail them. Maybe try them as traiters.
MustLoveBeagles
(13,319 posts)These people are out of control.
kwolf68
(8,009 posts)As we all know opposition political parties were banned in Nazi Germany. I was joking with my wife that could happen here. They may not ban the Democratic Party, but they can sure render it useless by jailing its members, impeaching judges, etc. Ultimately the same goals will be met as were in Nazi Germany, complete fealty to Der American Führer.
slightlv
(5,772 posts)Karasu
(1,346 posts)waiting to see if they'll cross.
orangecrush
(25,031 posts)ultralite001
(1,768 posts)but he'll not actually get his tiny hands dirty...
He'll always leave the dirty work to his minions...
red dog 1
(31,189 posts)but he sure won't be the last.
CrispyQ
(39,793 posts)




dchill
(42,579 posts)...I always end up believing the unbelievable.
surfered
(7,276 posts)I didnt expect it to be law enforcement.
slightlv
(5,772 posts)or the military who crossed the line first. After seeing the way they acted in his first maladministration, it was obvious there has been either a sea-change in personnel or hiring notations had changed, to where they only hire those on the more violent side of personality traits.
Bread and Circuses
(811 posts)I said to friends that republicans want to kill us and they will start with those who stand up and challenge them..
Some thought I was going way too extreme.
Guess what? Not at all. Republicans will shoot us down because they want a complete autocracy.
PatSeg
(50,321 posts)It is straight out of the dictator's playbook. Putin has tutored him well.
B.See
(5,597 posts)donheld
(21,325 posts)If tRump isn't stopped soon. He's going to do a lot worse, and incite others to more violence.