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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy you don't see school shootings in Israel
Email sent to me from one of my Republican friends
Should you receive this photo also...
My response after doing some internet research...
This woman is armed...not to protect the children from an armed Israeli crazy hell-bent on killing people...but against possible danger from terrorist based activity.
A totally different premise to what YOU are trying to portray here.
In mainstream Israeli society, mass rampage killings are very rare...despite the prevalence of weapons...simply because the citizens are well-trained, disciplined, and don't have that knee-jerk, reactionary type of national psyche.
Actually, I'm always amazed...that with so many guns around...the Israeli public have a very minimum of weapons related events.
It's called, being a stable, mature, educated, calm, and in-control populous.
Shalom,
KEV
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)owners would cause the NRA to declare war on our government. I would gladly accept their laws here in the states.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)complain when your personal guns are confiscated.
BlueStreak
(8,377 posts)I don't see where they confiscate guns, but their laws are significantly tighter than ours. This looks like a good starting point for discussion.
Applicants for a gun owners license in Israel are required to prove genuine reason to possess a firearm, for example, self-defense, hunting and sport
The minimum age for gun ownership in Israel is 27 years and 21 years if served in the military
An applicant for a firearm license in Israel must pass background checks which consider health, mental and criminal records
In Israel gun owners must re-apply and re-qualify for their firearm license every 3 years
In Israel, authorities maintain a record of individual civilians licensed to acquire, possess, sell or transfer a firearm or ammunition
A licensed firearm owner in Israel is permitted to possess a limited quantity of ammunition
http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/israel
leveymg
(36,418 posts)Xithras
(16,191 posts)It was explained to me yesterday that it's standard practice in Israel to have an armed guard at or near schools, and accompanying school field trips. I was told that the practice was instituted after the Ma'alot Massacre, when several Palestinians took over a school in the 70's. After the school was stormed, they found nearly 100 people shot, including 25 dead.
I know the Ma'alot Massacre part is correct, but I'd like to verify that the rest is correct so I'm not spreading misinformation. Do the Israelis really have armed guards at all of their schools, and accompanying all field trips?
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Gays and Lesbians have served in the military or years, there, And very few people say "Merry Christmas".
Its a fucking FOX News Nightmare, there, in Israel.
sadbear
(4,340 posts)Should try those things before anyone compares us to Israel.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)capacity ammunition magazines?
spanone
(135,880 posts)dumb fucking idea
real reason:
Genuine Reason Required for Firearm Licence
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CompareMinimum Age for Firearm Possession
The minimum age for gun ownership in Israel is 27 years and 21 years if served in the military30
CompareGun Owner Background Checks
An applicant for a firearm licence in Israel must pass background checks which consider health, mental and criminal30 records
CompareGun Owner Licensing Period
In Israel gun owners must re-apply and re-qualify for their firearm licence every 3 years32
CompareLicensing Records
In Israel, authorities maintain a record33 34 of individual civilians licensed to acquire, possess, sell or transfer a firearm or ammunition
CompareLimit on Quantity, Type of Ammunition
A licensed firearm owner in Israel is permitted to possess a limited quantity of ammunition
Make7
(8,543 posts)Gregorian
(23,867 posts)I'm only asking! So don't get uppity like I am blaming parents. Which I am.
Bucky
(54,068 posts)with the notable exception of Bibi Netanyahu, of course.
sinkingfeeling
(51,474 posts)"There is a picture going around the Internet I have seen about a dozen times that claims that Israeli teachers are packing heat. Well, are they? The answer is NO.
In the picture, the students are on an outing. While it appears that the teacher is holding a rifle, I have never seen such a thing in ten years of living here. Rest assured however, they are under armed protection. In most cases it is an armed guard or a soldier that will accompany a class, not the teacher. And my guess is that the woman with the gun is a security guard, not a teacher."
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)A highly trained security guard. Security guards in Israel aren't like Security guards in the US. In the US they basically hand a mall cop a gun and PRESTO, security guard. In Israel, the security guards are highly trained in tactical situations and have generally spent significant time in the Israeli military.
ellisonz
(27,711 posts)From 4 days ago: http://www.democraticunderground.com/117292558#post44
I could have sworn it was posted another time and hidden, but now I can't find it probably because I have a poster in the sub-thread on ignore.
Turns out your Republican friend and many of our Gungeon members have a lot in common.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)In the picture, the students are on an outing. While it appears that the teacher is holding a rifle, I have never seen such a thing in ten years of living here. Rest assured however, they are under armed protection. In most cases it is an armed guard or a soldier that will accompany a class, not the teacher. And my guess is that the woman with the gun is a security guard, not a teacher.
Yet another NRA/gun Industry issued false story about "cuddly guns"
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)I think the tribal nature of the conflicts in the middle east are an example of the earliest purpose of religion. As well as the only practice that actually makes sense to me. I think an early strategy to keep families and groups together was to develop a set of common values. Gathering and telling stories were a natural way to teach about them. Cooperative artistic activities\expressions in stories, visual arts, and ceremony that brought them together facilitated cooperation and loyalty. Israel has a unity that is not present in the US.
In contrast, the founders invaded north america essentially as a tribe that has broken down. They started as a united white "tribe" and essentially wiped out several others. Freedom of religion successfully kept us together- for awhile. We were united when it was us against the British and committing genocide. But we turned against each other as we expanded and developed internally distinct "tribes." We are a country where some people actually have moral codes that are truly hateful.
We have grown and acquired differences in culture and values. We are still adapting to not having a natural unifying moral code. Consider the one about killing people. We start wars and celebrate it. A happy ending in a movie comes with killing someone - even someone within the original tribe.
Blue Belle
(5,912 posts)that is trying to get a toehold in a religious and geographic area that is committed to wiping out their efforts. This country lives with the reality that they will be in an attack situation at some point in their lives. The biggest threat in their daily lives is from a terrorist from another country attacking them because of their religion. They are at war and they are trained to fight an enemy. America does not share this situation. Statistically, the victims of gun crimes in America are usually killed by significant others, members of their family, or someone they know. Why the fuck to people keep thinking that presence of guns make us safer?
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