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Cops arrest 80 year old veteran protestor. Handcuffed, his walker taken away. How low can they go? (Original Post) Swede Yesterday OP
G.O.P. pissing on our veterans again BoRaGard Yesterday #1
The parade is about supporting Trump's giant ego, not supporting the military. Irish_Dem Yesterday #8
Duplicating this from June 14, 1940? LiberalArkie Yesterday #13
Exactly, the US has fallen without firing a shot. Total silence as the occupation is complete. Irish_Dem Yesterday #17
Nope mahina Yesterday #48
Don't give up in advance MadameButterfly 16 hrs ago #72
The most important part of winning a war is to face realty. Irish_Dem 15 hrs ago #74
This message was self-deleted by its author MadameButterfly 15 hrs ago #75
I agree that we must face reality MadameButterfly 9 hrs ago #82
Nicely, very nicely put. RVN VET71 14 hrs ago #77
Not all that confident in the Courts because of SC6 BlueKota 8 hrs ago #84
But, what happened to our FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS? Emile Yesterday #2
Everyday gets more absurd. I used to think that I had a fairly good imagination, but........ mjvpi Yesterday #3
Most good people have a hard time imaging true evil and depravity. Irish_Dem Yesterday #4
How low? Much lower. sakabatou Yesterday #5
Evil never seems to have a bottom. Irish_Dem Yesterday #9
Cops should be ashamed of themselves. Irish_Dem Yesterday #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Irish_Dem Yesterday #7
They must have thought he would run away with that walker. Emile Yesterday #10
Lower than you think. William769 Yesterday #11
You are going to find out unless we stop them. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Yesterday #12
Hopefully bdamomma Yesterday #21
Get The Easy Targets First Mr.Bee Yesterday #14
Yep, that's what the police do, that's why they liked arresting potheads so much Walleye Yesterday #26
Whatever you imagine a worst case scenario would be, JMCKUSICK Yesterday #15
Yeah, just wait till they run out of immigrants to detain! 70sEraVet Yesterday #67
NBC 4 video report: sl8 Yesterday #16
Did they point out that he Is EIGHTY??? niyad Yesterday #28
Nope. sl8 Yesterday #38
By the way, some of the comments on youtube are horrifying. niyad Yesterday #42
"87-year-old Gainesville veteran arrested at U.S. Capitol during protest" sl8 Yesterday #62
Looks like it took two of them to handle this Veteran! pazzyanne Yesterday #64
He's an octogenarian for crying out loud Seinan Sensei 23 hrs ago #68
I'm 82 and the comment I madw is... pazzyanne 13 hrs ago #79
I hope EVERYBODY sees this thread. calimary Yesterday #18
K & R for exposure SunSeeker Yesterday #19
Trump's NAZI AMERICA Emile Yesterday #20
There is no depth too low for them Grim Chieftain Yesterday #22
Didn't they actually storm the capitol building and cross a barricade? SSJVegeta Yesterday #23
"storm the capital" (do you mean Capitol, as opposed to the whole city?). niyad Yesterday #29
Yes. That is what I meant. Thank you. SSJVegeta Yesterday #32
Handcuffing behind his back an elderly person on a walker is NOT niyad Yesterday #40
Point taken SSJVegeta Yesterday #47
arrested for "unlawful demonstration" quakerboy Yesterday #46
Kinda oxymoronic if you think about it SSJVegeta Yesterday #51
No question SCantiGOP Yesterday #59
that wording doesn't define said right as meaning "anytime, anywhere .." stopdiggin 19 hrs ago #70
The redline of where our rights end appears to be knocking over bike racks. allegorical oracle 14 hrs ago #78
or - if you are previously advised you may not enter XYZ stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #80
It's always a good day to participate in civil disobedience. bluedigger Yesterday #24
How low can they go? I don't want to find out IronLionZion Yesterday #25
I know what you mean. ananda Yesterday #31
What is truly needed DENVERPOPS Yesterday #37
OMG an 80 year old man with a walker 😡 what the??? TommieMommy Yesterday #27
And by the DC Police?????????? DENVERPOPS Yesterday #39
In that case the popo should give him his walker back. Ilsa Yesterday #45
Why even handcuff him DENVERPOPS Yesterday #50
ITA. It's an epidemic of insanity, Ilsa Yesterday #53
Republican scum. CentralMass Yesterday #30
I would say unfuckingbelievable, but it's totally believable. Vinca Yesterday #33
This country is going to hell. That man needs to be thrown out on his disgusting ass now. Initech Yesterday #34
Thugland Insane Asylum moondust Yesterday #35
This image should be blasted everywhere peggysue2 Yesterday #36
An 80 year old, disabled veteran, on a walker, which was taken away, and his hands niyad Yesterday #52
Thankfully, those shithead Thug/Goons didn't "shoot" him. Tarzanrock Yesterday #41
To be fair he wasn't smashing windows and smearing feces all over the Capitol walls. Tootbsb Yesterday #43
This is the lowest of the low,and those cops are monsters. ShazzieB Yesterday #44
They're cops... so much, much lower. RockRaven Yesterday #49
My 83 year old veteran dad was disappointed Ivey didn't show up. Pacifist Patriot Yesterday #54
Despicable Disrespect Bayard Yesterday #55
Uh oh... they're only heroes if they fight and kill for... Buckeye_Democrat Yesterday #56
Who also soldierant Yesterday #58
They can always go lower. electricmonk Yesterday #57
I hope this police officer's mother is SO PROUD of his sorry ass! hamsterjill Yesterday #60
Article, video: "87-year-old Gainesville veteran arrested at U.S. Capitol during protest: sl8 Yesterday #61
GQPeepeepeeing on our veterans as usual. Clouds Passing Yesterday #63
Here's video showing the Capital Police Nazis arresting the elderly man & not allowing him to keep his walker red dog 1 Yesterday #65
Nothing says Protect and Serve Picaro Yesterday #66
Who thought these thugs could get this far this fast? The Wizard 21 hrs ago #69
It's so necessary to make sure his hands are cuffed behind him. EYE ROLL. Jackasses. C Moon 19 hrs ago #71
Well, you know, he might turn on them with a roundhouse punch. Scrivener7 14 hrs ago #76
This veteran had to know he would be arrested. Morbius 15 hrs ago #73
you're darned right he (and all the rest) did. clearly! stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #81
The process is the punishment. They're enjoying the shit out of this. Iggo 9 hrs ago #83
So what was the charge? TnDem 8 hrs ago #85

Irish_Dem

(71,002 posts)
17. Exactly, the US has fallen without firing a shot. Total silence as the occupation is complete.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:08 AM
Yesterday

MadameButterfly

(3,060 posts)
72. Don't give up in advance
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 05:02 AM
16 hrs ago

i admire your persistence and passion, Irish Dem, and yes it looks dire but we have not yet lost.
We still have courts (most judgements going against Trump), demonstrations, Rachel Maddow, Democratic Underground, Social Security, Medicare, Unions, Jamie Raskin, 12 million legal immigrants hanging in there, states that guarantee abortion, elections (as far as we know), Blue states (who feed our economy), the best universities in the world who have the intelligence and resources to out-litigate Trump, children getting educations not mostly run by Fascists or Communists, an American pope who cannot be silenced, Rock'n'Roll (yes, the Beatles helped liberate the Soviet Union), artists (even if the NEA isn't funded).

i understand that all of these are at risk.
But they are not gone. Yet. If we don't recognize what we have, we have given up.
This is not the time to send out the energy of defeat. While we still have a chance to win.
You don't seem like a give up kind of guy. From our past conversations.
i understand the reasons for your pessimism. But we need you. Guys like you.
Hang in there while the fight is still on.

Irish_Dem

(71,002 posts)
74. The most important part of winning a war is to face realty.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 06:05 AM
15 hrs ago

I come from a military family and this is a fact.
If you tell yourself fairy stories about the battle, you will most certainly lose.

Every fiber of my being is about being in it to win it.

I was also a long time therapist.
My job was to help people face the truth and reality.
Blowing smoke up people's butt is a total waste of time.
And not what they paid me to do.

So if we want to win the war against the evil Nazis we must be honest with ourselves.

The situation is quite dire. But yes not hopeless.
My goal is get people to face realty first.
Then we fight back and fight hard.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #74)

MadameButterfly

(3,060 posts)
82. I agree that we must face reality
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:40 PM
9 hrs ago

to begin.

But maintain hope to continue.

I'm glad to hear that you still have hope

RVN VET71

(2,918 posts)
77. Nicely, very nicely put.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 07:17 AM
14 hrs ago

Thank you for the reminder.

It may be a good time to remember the suffering heroes at Valley Forge who, despite their seemingly hopeless circumstances, lived to fight another day Thanks to their bravery and conviction, Mad King George was humiliated and defeated.

There are still battles to be won.

I recall some lines from e.e.cummings' "I sing of Olaf":

Olaf(upon what were once knees)
does almost ceaselessly repeat
"there is some shit I will not eat"

Olaf, of course, was, after much torture, thrown into a dungeon by TRUMP "our president' and died there, sadly.. But we have not been beaten down yet, not by a long shot, because we are angry and have strength we haven't yet drawn upon. There is, indeed, some much shit we will not eat, no matter how much cyclamate Karoline Claire Leavitt sprinkles on it.

In closing, FUCK TRUMP!

BlueKota

(4,312 posts)
84. Not all that confident in the Courts because of SC6
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:56 PM
8 hrs ago

I'd be more comforted by the courts, if the SC6 didn't keep staying or throwing out lower courts rulings against tsf, in a number of cases. Yes they rule against him a few times but most times they kneel and kiss the ring.

I still have some hope because of what one of my professors once said. A population used to having rights and freedoms, rarely tolerate them being taken away, and will make that quite clear to the ones trying to take them. That's what the protests are doing and I am hoping they continue and grow even more in attendees.

mjvpi

(1,658 posts)
3. Everyday gets more absurd. I used to think that I had a fairly good imagination, but........
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 09:43 AM
Yesterday

Response to Swede (Original post)

JMCKUSICK

(2,695 posts)
15. Whatever you imagine a worst case scenario would be,
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:05 AM
Yesterday

It will be much much worse. He's only been president for five months. They're priming the pump as it were.

70sEraVet

(4,585 posts)
67. Yeah, just wait till they run out of immigrants to detain!
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 08:30 PM
Yesterday

All of those detention centers and foreign prisons aren't going to fill themselves!

sl8

(16,621 posts)
16. NBC 4 video report:
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:07 AM
Yesterday

Last edited Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)



Capitol Police arrest 60 parade protesters, including vet using a walker | NBC4 Washington

NBC4 Washington

Jun 14 2025

U.S. Capitol Police arrested 60 people for unlawful demonstration Friday evening, the agency said. News4’s Jackie Bensen reports a Vietnam veteran using a walker was among those arrested.
[...]



Article:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/president-trump-politics/capitol-police-arrest-parade-protesters-vet/3936147/

======

On edit:
See article and different video at link:

https://www.wcjb.com/2025/06/14/87-year-old-gainesville-veteran-arrested-us-capitol-during-protest/

87-year-old Gainesville veteran arrested at U.S. Capitol during protest

sl8

(16,621 posts)
38. Nope.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:02 PM
Yesterday

I haven't seen his age mentioned in any news articles yet, just on social media.

I'm not suggesting he isn't 80, he probably is, but I haven't seen a source for that information, other than on social media.

niyad

(124,421 posts)
42. By the way, some of the comments on youtube are horrifying.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:09 PM
Yesterday

Insisting that the protestors assaulted the police, etc. Yet they never talk abbout J6.

Seinan Sensei

(1,001 posts)
68. He's an octogenarian for crying out loud
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 10:29 PM
23 hrs ago

Last edited Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:12 AM - Edit history (1)

He’s using a Rollater walker with a seat
If you feel the need to take him somewhere, turn the damn Rollater around, let him sit down, then you can wheel him anywhere, like he’s in a wheelchair.

Oh but no.
Be a badass.
Take his Rollater.
Cuff his hands BEHIND his back.
Now he’s at-risk for a fall, for breaking a hip.

He can’t walk asshole
That’s why he uses a walker
………..

calimary

(86,644 posts)
18. I hope EVERYBODY sees this thread.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:09 AM
Yesterday

And reads every comment.

And thinks. About how we all recover from this. And HOW SOON.

Grim Chieftain

(226 posts)
22. There is no depth too low for them
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:21 AM
Yesterday

I've tried to be hopeful and optimistic, but sometimes I feel this country is in a death spiral.

SSJVegeta

(697 posts)
23. Didn't they actually storm the capitol building and cross a barricade?
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

That is trespassing, and the protesters expected to be arrested.

niyad

(124,421 posts)
29. "storm the capital" (do you mean Capitol, as opposed to the whole city?).
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:51 AM
Yesterday

rather odd rhetoric.

SSJVegeta

(697 posts)
32. Yes. That is what I meant. Thank you.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

From the videos I saw, they were intending to break past the barricade and be peacefully arrested. Which it appears they were.

niyad

(124,421 posts)
40. Handcuffing behind his back an elderly person on a walker is NOT
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:06 PM
Yesterday

"peacefully arrested". It is malicious, gratuitous cruelty.

SSJVegeta

(697 posts)
51. Kinda oxymoronic if you think about it
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:07 PM
Yesterday

Per our constitution, you'd think that all peaceful demonstration is necessarily lawful.

SCantiGOP

(14,494 posts)
59. No question
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:37 PM
Yesterday

Cannot infringe on right of the people “to
peaceably assemble…to petition for a redress of grievances.”

stopdiggin

(13,889 posts)
70. that wording doesn't define said right as meaning "anytime, anywhere .."
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:15 AM
19 hrs ago

Or so our courts have told us. Do you disagree with that premise?

stopdiggin

(13,889 posts)
80. or - if you are previously advised you may not enter XYZ
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:56 AM
9 hrs ago

(either during a particular time, or in general)
and you then proceed to enter XYZ with full intent of being arrested?

do we disagree with that premise ?

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

bluedigger

(17,245 posts)
24. It's always a good day to participate in civil disobedience.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:26 AM
Yesterday

No matter how old you are. I made sure to personally groom this this morning. I don't want to go full Nick Nolte at booking.

IronLionZion

(49,161 posts)
25. How low can they go? I don't want to find out
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:32 AM
Yesterday

they'll accept that as a challenge.

Kudos to veterans for protesting the use of military on Americans.

DENVERPOPS

(12,584 posts)
37. What is truly needed
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:01 PM
Yesterday

to put current Military members on Alert is Tens of thousands of peaceful Veteran Demonstrators, if not hundreds of Military demonstrators.

It is obvious they don't want a situation where all the Military in the parade have to walk by their Military Veterans who are protesting and the present military questioning their own morals and convictions.........

DENVERPOPS

(12,584 posts)
39. And by the DC Police??????????
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:05 PM
Yesterday

WTF?????? (Unless they were covertly trying to keep them out of harms way, protecting them from harm by Trump's SS, ICE, Gestapo, Brown Shirts and MAGAots...........)

Ilsa

(62,882 posts)
45. In that case the popo should give him his walker back.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:29 PM
Yesterday

Or at least handcuff him in front, not back.

DENVERPOPS

(12,584 posts)
50. Why even handcuff him
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:01 PM
Yesterday

ludicrous that he is a "threat" to them............what a F***ing joke, and Travesty.............

Initech

(105,251 posts)
34. This country is going to hell. That man needs to be thrown out on his disgusting ass now.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

peggysue2

(11,923 posts)
36. This image should be blasted everywhere
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:00 PM
Yesterday

This is Agent Orange's America! An 80-year old, disabled vet handcuffed by police.

There is no bottom to the injustice this Administration is willing to inflict.

Never forget, never forgive.

And btw, the whole world is watching.

niyad

(124,421 posts)
52. An 80 year old, disabled veteran, on a walker, which was taken away, and his hands
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:08 PM
Yesterday

were cuffed behind his back. You could see in the video how they yanked his arms back, the fucking thugs.

Tarzanrock

(1,084 posts)
41. Thankfully, those shithead Thug/Goons didn't "shoot" him.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:06 PM
Yesterday

Good thing he was "white" otherwise those Thugs would have "kneed" on his neck and choked him to death. Satan "blesses" Fascism.

ShazzieB

(20,897 posts)
44. This is the lowest of the low,and those cops are monsters.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 12:15 PM
Yesterday

And this is exactly why the No Kings organizers did not plan an event in DC today. They knew stuff like this would happen.

This brave veteran picked the wrong place to protest today...or maybe he did it on purpose knowing he would probably get arrested.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,001 posts)
54. My 83 year old veteran dad was disappointed Ivey didn't show up.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:46 PM
Yesterday

He wanted to ask him if it was considered violence to tell the county sheriff he is a fucking fascist tub of lard to his face. I think my dad was hoping to get arrested. I don't think they would be the kind of publicity that attention grabbing narcissist of a constitutional sheriff would end up appreciating. 😄

Bayard

(25,463 posts)
55. Despicable Disrespect
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:51 PM
Yesterday

This could be your father, or your grandfather, guys. What do you think you're doing?

Buckeye_Democrat

(15,284 posts)
56. Uh oh... they're only heroes if they fight and kill for...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:01 PM
Yesterday

... the interests of the wealthy owner-class.

Otherwise, they're treated like traitors such as Major General Smedley Butler, author of "War is a Racket".(1935).

soldierant

(8,601 posts)
58. Who also
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:26 PM
Yesterday

saved us from a coup and likely saved FDR's life. Those wealthy people were capable of anything. (and wealthy people still are.)

hamsterjill

(16,012 posts)
60. I hope this police officer's mother is SO PROUD of his sorry ass!
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:48 PM
Yesterday

Good grief. I'm sure this veteran posed a great risk and needed to be handcuffed. This is why these idiots don't have any critical thinking skills - could they not have made an exception???!!!

sl8

(16,621 posts)
61. Article, video: "87-year-old Gainesville veteran arrested at U.S. Capitol during protest:
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:00 PM
Yesterday
https://www.wcjb.com/2025/06/14/87-year-old-gainesville-veteran-arrested-us-capitol-during-protest/

Video at link, from different angle, crowd loudly & clearly chanting at police:

87-year-old Gainesville veteran arrested at U.S. Capitol during protest

By Ryan Wyatt Turbeville
Published: Jun. 14, 2025 at 12:13 PM EDT|Updated: 4 hours ago

WASHINGTON, D.C. (WCJB) - An elderly man from Gainesville was one of dozens of veterans arrested outside the U.S. Capitol Building as they protested against President Donald Trump’s military parade scheduled for Saturday.

U.S. Capitol Police confirm John Spitzberg, 87, of Gainesville, was arrested for crossing a police line during a demonstration on Friday.

[...]

Video of the incident shows officers arresting an elderly veteran using a walker with wheels and a chair. The man appears to be Spitzberg.

Police say all 60 individuals will be charged with unlawful demonstration and crossing a police line. Some will also face additional charges of assault on a police officer and resisting arrest.

red dog 1

(31,218 posts)
65. Here's video showing the Capital Police Nazis arresting the elderly man & not allowing him to keep his walker
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 06:36 PM
Yesterday

Picaro

(2,034 posts)
66. Nothing says Protect and Serve
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 07:59 PM
Yesterday

Like arresting 80 year old veterans and taking away their walkers.

The Wizard

(13,197 posts)
69. Who thought these thugs could get this far this fast?
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:24 AM
21 hrs ago

When crimes are committed, who benefits?

C Moon

(12,919 posts)
71. It's so necessary to make sure his hands are cuffed behind him. EYE ROLL. Jackasses.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:34 AM
19 hrs ago

Their are so many other respectful ways they could have dealt with this. They chose the lowest.

Scrivener7

(55,995 posts)
76. Well, you know, he might turn on them with a roundhouse punch.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 07:10 AM
14 hrs ago

Assholes abound.

I have to say, though, the cops at the protest I attended yesterday couldn't have treated us better, down to carefully tracking the one creepy black-clad and black-masked party crasher trying to scare the participants.

Morbius

(524 posts)
73. This veteran had to know he would be arrested.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 06:00 AM
15 hrs ago

The image of an elderly man being force-marched away while another cop handles his walker is politically damning, and I am pretty sure the old man knew that. It's a sly move; a veteran being heroic again, frankly.

stopdiggin

(13,889 posts)
81. you're darned right he (and all the rest) did. clearly!
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:04 PM
9 hrs ago

and you're also right about the 'smart play' - and the predictable wailing.

TnDem

(899 posts)
85. So what was the charge?
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:07 PM
8 hrs ago

I read in the Gainesville media report that he crossed police lines? My question is, was he asked to simply move back behind the line before arresting him? An arrest seems extreme to me.

The report says he is 87, which puts him born in 1938... That would have put him after Korea and before Vietnam as a male military aged service member. I am not sure why the 1990's desert combat BDU shirt came from.

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