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Minnesota shooter name is on X. Vance Boelter (Original Post) Melon Jun 14 OP
Members only link. Useless. . . n t Bernardo de La Paz Jun 14 #1
Unless you're a member, of course. MineralMan Jun 14 #5
Internet used to be free. Now there are so many walled gardens. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 14 #17
Free does not necessarily mean true. MineralMan Jun 14 #21
Of course. I was making a different point. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 14 #22
Was appointed to Governor Workforce Board by Gov Walz in 2019 toesonthenose Jun 14 #2
If so, that is beyond bizarre TheProle Jun 14 #3
A Vance Boelter was appointed by Walz. Whether they are the same person as the named suspect is not known DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 14 #23
He was appt 2016? Just catching up. Could easily have been radicalized during that time. LizBeth Jun 14 #36
IF IT'S TRUE. RandomNumbers Jun 14 #4
Weird background if it is him... jmbar2 Jun 14 #6
Lots of foreign ties. Prince perhaps? SheltieLover Jun 14 #14
The University was Catholic, heavily hispanic students according to the internet info. Irish_Dem Jun 14 #25
So far only RIGHT WING sources are reporting this - I'd wait and see. AStern Jun 14 #7
Here's an open link to information on that person: MineralMan Jun 14 #8
NY Post has it on front page eShirl Jun 14 #9
Where did the info come from? nolabear Jun 14 #10
Lets be frank, ForgedCrank Jun 14 #19
Yes, you're right. We need to make sense of the senseless. nolabear Jun 14 #43
I'm Ok with ForgedCrank Jun 14 #44
Neither did Luigi Mangione...just saying. People get worked up over personal issues and allegorical oracle Jun 14 #35
Says Who? Show us the X link, as well. Who posted that? MineralMan Jun 14 #11
Just posted below Melon Jun 14 #16
Has this been confirmed by officials? I don't see any news sites reporting this tulipsandroses Jun 14 #12
Good idea. I can't find anything, either. MineralMan Jun 14 #18
Exactly. Earl_from_PA Jun 14 #28
No one's learned anything from the Atlanta Olympics bombing electricmonk Jun 14 #37
The ReThug Fascists are already gleefully crowing over this on social media. jcmaine72 Jun 14 #13
This is one link. It's all over X Melon Jun 14 #15
The video attached to that tweet had absolutely ZERO information related to the text of the tweet Wiz Imp Jun 14 #26
Very likely. I just typed the name in and posted first link Melon Jun 14 #29
Welcome to DU orangecrush Jun 14 #20
It's confirmed. Who is this dude? WarGamer Jun 14 #24
Where did it get confirmed? Melon Jun 14 #27
Minnesota TV KSTP eShirl Jun 14 #31
ABC apparently just confirmed SheltieLover Jun 14 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author milestogo Jun 14 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems Jun 14 #32
Associated Press eShirl Jun 14 #34
MSNBC confirms, now on it with an aerial shot of Vance Boelter's house eShirl Jun 14 #38
NY Post Dumpy Jun 14 #39
Website with his picture Pretorian Guards jeez flamingdem Jun 14 #40
didn't the real Praetorian Guards murder their employer eShirl Jun 14 #41
The Workforce Development Board is nonpartisan and appointment Rs are made by variety of people Nanjeanne Jun 14 #42

MineralMan

(149,445 posts)
5. Unless you're a member, of course.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jun 14

I am. So, I can see his mug, but I'm not sure how they think it was him. That's totally unclear yet. Lots of gun-jumping when these things happen.

MineralMan

(149,445 posts)
21. Free does not necessarily mean true.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:52 PM
Jun 14

Free often means that people are free to lie their asses off, as well.

I accept nothing on the Internet without corroboration. The Internet is very useful sometimes, but it can also be horribly incorrect at other times.

LizBeth

(11,206 posts)
36. He was appt 2016? Just catching up. Could easily have been radicalized during that time.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jun 14

We will have to see. Again, we are just catching up but I see WP or incel. I really do not know, lol. Conjecture

jmbar2

(7,045 posts)
6. Weird background if it is him...
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:36 PM
Jun 14

Retail management at 7-11 until 2021, then some sort of action in the Congo from 2021. Phony sounding PH.D from Stritch University, which closed in 2023.

Irish_Dem

(72,227 posts)
25. The University was Catholic, heavily hispanic students according to the internet info.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jun 14

Closed due to financial problems.

ForgedCrank

(2,757 posts)
19. Lets be frank,
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jun 14

anyone who does something like this is just evil. Every time it happens, I'm looking for common denominators, and there doesn't seem to be a pattern beyond the evil that drives them to do such a thing to another human. They are young, they are old, they are politically driven and they aren't, they are in a cult and they aren't. It's never the same and it sucks because we can rarely predict it. It is a mental weakness, a lack of impulse control or the ability to be rational. I hate it, they bring destruction and we are powerless to stop it.

nolabear

(43,790 posts)
43. Yes, you're right. We need to make sense of the senseless.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:38 PM
Jun 14

Though, and no offense, they’re damn near all male.

Now they know a bit more maybe the crazy conspiracies will die down, or not, because people enjoy them so much.

ForgedCrank

(2,757 posts)
44. I'm Ok with
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 04:51 PM
Jun 14

actual facts, and I am not offended by them. And you are right, males are by far more prone to violent behavior, it is an unfortunate part of our biological makeup. But when you mix that with other environmental factors, some seem unable to keep their lizard brain in check. Look no further than the prisons. The population there is a direct reflection of who is committing the crimes.
But I do struggle to understand what kind of brain would deduce that it is Ok to kill another human for any reason other than self-preservation. It is unthinkable to me, and I doubt I'll ever understand it

allegorical oracle

(5,324 posts)
35. Neither did Luigi Mangione...just saying. People get worked up over personal issues and
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:13 PM
Jun 14

feel driven to commit acts that are totally foreign to their past behavior.

tulipsandroses

(7,638 posts)
12. Has this been confirmed by officials? I don't see any news sites reporting this
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jun 14

I'll wait for the officials.

MineralMan

(149,445 posts)
18. Good idea. I can't find anything, either.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:50 PM
Jun 14

At the Twitter link given by someone, there is nothing that identifies anyone as the shooter. So, this is all, at best, second or third party information. At worst, it's completely bogus.

Earl_from_PA

(275 posts)
28. Exactly.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jun 14

Speculation based on internet chatter is just that. Speculation.
I remember when Gabby Gifford's assailant was publicly named, Jared Loughner, internet sleuths found social media pages of a different Jared Loughner, a RWNJ, in Colorado. But it wasn't the same guy. I will wait for official confirmation.

electricmonk

(2,011 posts)
37. No one's learned anything from the Atlanta Olympics bombing
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jun 14

Just about every high profile case the media and others jumps the gun and names a suspect and possibly ruins a person's life in the rush to be first. In the age of social media it's even worse when everyone with an internet connection can blast their name out before verifying.

jcmaine72

(1,818 posts)
13. The ReThug Fascists are already gleefully crowing over this on social media.
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jun 14

It might've been a personal thing between this guy and the lawmakers. Maybe, despite once working for Gov. Walz, he was radicalized by the right. Who knows at this point? We won't get a complete picture until this a-hole is apprehended and questioned...maybe.

Melon

(544 posts)
15. This is one link. It's all over X
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 01:43 PM
Jun 14

I just typed the his name in just now and searched. There are lots of posts. I’m not following these. Working remote so I can’t research.

Edit. Erased link because it was inflammatory. Just type his name on X.

Wiz Imp

(5,968 posts)
26. The video attached to that tweet had absolutely ZERO information related to the text of the tweet
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jun 14

In other words, the tweeter is full of shit.

Melon

(544 posts)
29. Very likely. I just typed the name in and posted first link
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:02 PM
Jun 14

I was not in a position to search or research at the time. Just an example.

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eShirl

(19,380 posts)
34. Associated Press
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 02:11 PM
Jun 14
https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-d7983e1e4f1a7573a487cab1a98cd172

Two people familiar with the matter identified the suspect being sought as 57-year-old Vance Boelter. The people could not publicly discuss details of the ongoing investigation and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
42. The Workforce Development Board is nonpartisan and appointment Rs are made by variety of people
Sat Jun 14, 2025, 03:06 PM
Jun 14

It really means nothing that (if true) this murderer sat on the Board. He could have been added by any number of people, including Republicans, including the minority Speaker of the house.

Just because media is desperate to have this murderer somehow be Dem or Tim Walz’s pal — it’s really not at issue and anyone could easily find this out. There’s zero indication that Gov Walz had anything to do with his appointment. Below is the large and varied way people are assigned to this Board.

§Subd. 2.Membership. (a) The governor's Workforce Development Board is composed of members appointed by the governor. In selecting the representatives of the board, the governor shall ensure that a majority of the members come from the private sector, pursuant to United States Code, title 29, section 3111. For the public members, membership terms, compensation of members, and removal of members are governed by section 15.059, subdivisions 2, 3, and 4. To the extent practicable, the membership should be balanced as to gender and ethnic diversity.
(b) No person shall serve as a member of more than one category described in paragraph (c).
(c) Voting members shall consist of the following:
(1) the governor or the governor's designee;
(2) two members of the house of representatives, one appointed by the speaker of the house and one appointed by the minority leader of the house of representatives;
(3) two members of the senate, one appointed by the senate majority leader and one appointed by the senate minority leader;
(4) a majority of the members must be representatives of businesses in the state appointed by the governor who:
(i) are owners of businesses, chief executives, or operating officers of businesses, or other business executives or employers with optimum policy-making or hiring authority and who, in addition, may be members of a local board under United States Code, title 29, section 3122(b)(2)(A)(i);
(ii) represent businesses, including small businesses, or organizations representing businesses that provide employment opportunities that, at a minimum, include high-quality, work-relevant training and development in in-demand industry sectors or occupations in the state; and
(iii) are appointed from individuals nominated by state business organizations and business trade associations;
(5) six representatives of labor organizations appointed by the governor, including:
(i) representatives of labor organizations who have been nominated by state labor federations; and
(ii) a member of a labor organization or a training director from a joint labor organization;
(6) commissioners of the state agencies with primary responsibility for core programs identified within the state plan including:
(i) the Department of Employment and Economic Development;
(ii) the Department of Education;
(iii) the Department of Human Services; and
(iv) the Department of Children, Youth, and Families;
(7) two chief elected officials, appointed by the governor, collectively representing cities and counties;
(8) two representatives who are people of color or people with disabilities, appointed by the governor, of community-based organizations that have demonstrated experience and expertise in addressing the employment, training, or education needs of individuals with barriers to employment; and
(9) four officials responsible for education programs in the state, appointed by the governor, including chief executive officers of community colleges and other institutions of higher education, including:
(i) the chancellor of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities;
(ii) the president of the University of Minnesota;
(iii) a president from a private postsecondary school; and
(iv) a representative of career and technical education.
(d) The nonvoting members of the board shall be appointed by the governor and consist of one of each of the following:
(1) a representative of Adult Basic Education;
(2) a representative of public libraries;
(3) a person with expertise in women's economic security;
(4) the chair or executive director of the Minnesota Workforce Council Association;
(5) the commissioner of labor and industry;
(6) the commissioner of the Office of Higher Education;
(7) the commissioner of corrections;
(8) the commissioner of management and budget;
(9) two representatives of community-based organizations who are people of color or people with disabilities who have demonstrated experience and expertise in addressing the employment, training, and education needs of individuals with barriers to employment;
(10) a representative of secondary, postsecondary, or career-technical education;
(11) a representative of school-based service learning;
(12) a representative of the Council on Asian-Pacific Minnesotans;
(13) a representative of the Minnesota Council on Latino Affairs;
(14) a representative of the Council for Minnesotans of African Heritage;
(15) a representative of the Minnesota Indian Affairs Council;
(16) a representative of the Minnesota State Council on Disability; and
(17) a representative of the Office on the Economic Status of Women.
(e) Each member shall be appointed for a term of three years from the first day of January or July immediately following their appointment. Elected officials shall forfeit their appointment if they cease to serve in elected office.

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