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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsVance Boelter, the suspected shooter, is an evangelical minister
https://www.wired.com/story/shooting-minnesota-melissa-hortman-vance-boelter/According to an archived website for the ministry reviewed by WIRED, the suspected shooters missionary work took him to Gaza and the West Bank during the Second Intifada, where, the website states, he sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.
A later version of the site was designed, according to an archived copy, by Israeli web design firm J-Town. Charlie Kalech, CEO of J-Town, tells WIRED that the alleged suspect was, in his recollection, clearly religious and evangelistic. He had lots of ideas to make the world a better place. The suspect, whom Kalech said was nothing but nice to me, commissioned J-Town, Kalech recalled, because theyre Jerusalem-based, and he said he wanted to support Israel.
A Facebook profile under the suspected shooters name was briefly viewed by WIRED before it was taken down. His profile had shown him liking several evangelical missionary organizations, as well as pages honoring Reinhard Bonnke, a German pentecostal evangelist known for missions in several African countries, and Smith Wigglesworth, a British evangelist who was influential in the pentecostal movement. He also liked the Alliance Defending Freedom, a conservative legal advocacy organization known for its hardline stances against abortion and LGBTQ rights.

eShirl
(19,335 posts)SWBTATTReg
(25,413 posts)That's why I never trust these sorts of people who talk out of the sides of their mouths, their lies showing up in their eyes at the same time.
BlueKota
(4,312 posts)Why didn't he follow that code himself? Murdering hypocrite.
RandomNumbers
(18,694 posts)I know some fundamentalist Xtians. My impression is those types of churches marinate their followers in hatred of "the sin" until they feel justified to take God's justice into their own hands and deal with "the sinners". The religion those churches teach is some twisted shit.
orangecrush
(25,052 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(259 posts)This does not sound like psychosis
RandomNumbers
(18,694 posts)I mean he started out (long ago at least) preaching against violence. Apparently many of his beliefs go against our grain here, but not everyone who has opposite beliefs to us goes out with the intention to murder people. I am speaking of the twistedness of the Xtian fundamentalist churches that say in some words "hate the sin, love the sinner" but in other ways make it very clear that they truly do hate those they consider "sinners"; and that after enough marination in that sickness, a person can come to believe that it is appropriate to take violent action.
The "break" is between his earlier support (at least verbally) of non-violence, and coming to the point where he methodically plans to kill a bunch of people.
Iggo
(48,917 posts)ImNotGod
(744 posts)RandomNumbers
(18,694 posts)JMHO and I do think your suggestion would be a significant second contributor.
IronLionZion
(49,161 posts)way too many people are heavily armed and murderous/hateful. When they kill people they don't deserve the mental illness excuse.
BlueKota
(4,312 posts)Not to mention there are a lot of mentally ill people in the world, who don't go around killing people. I suffer from chronic severe depression and severe anxiety but the only person I have ever tried to physically hurt in my life was myself.
Bluetus
(1,150 posts)These extreme evangelicals tend to be pretty unstable. It is not surprising because their entire existence is anchored on a dogma that is entirely supernatural. In other words, on a daily basis, they have to block out facts from the real world and superimpose supernatural beliefs that can never be confirmed..
Many religious people find a balance between the real world and supernatural. But the more extreme / evangelical, the less rooted in reality. And it is that detachment from reality that allows them to move from a life of trying to help people to a life of killing in the name of the supernatural.
It is, by definition, a mental breakdown. Insanity shielded by the cloak of religion.
Mopar151
(10,299 posts)Pat Robertson
BlueKota
(4,312 posts)Most of those TV evangelicals are the worst of the worst. They are just scam artists conning their "flocks", out of money, and those stupid sheep just gladly hand it over.
I bet most of these "preachers," don't even believe in actual higher powers except the all mighty dollar and the face they see in mirror.
Bluetus
(1,150 posts)They are generally scam artists from the git. They are mostly crooks, not mental cases, although Pat Robertson eventually became both.
MustLoveBeagles
(13,346 posts)
FalloutShelter
(13,438 posts)ret5hd
(21,498 posts)firebombing entire cities, and flogging money-changers isnt entirely off the table.
FalloutShelter
(13,438 posts)
CountAllVotes
(21,797 posts)He found that somewhere in his bible.
BlueKota
(4,312 posts)commandments. He must have skipped right passed the 6th commandment, Thou shalt not kill.
travelingthrulife
(2,632 posts)basically do any awful thing they want and they are still "saved".
The only nasty person I saw Yesterday was a woman I saw at the last protest in May. She had a shirt on that said "your body, my choice" and she would just glare at you with the hatred of a thousand suns.
BlueKota
(4,312 posts)I remember a line from the T.V. series China Beach where the main character said, " there is no such thing as a good Catholic, only Catholics who are never good enough." I really related to that line, and never forgot it, because that was my reality being raised Catholic.
Their belief of being saved and being absolved no matter what their behavior is, is so radically different. So many interpretations of what Christianity is.
DENVERPOPS
(12,584 posts)Many of those on his list are Pro Choice voices..........and abortion clinic people........
Good thing his plans were foiled..................Like all criminals, he was obviously thinking he wouldn't get caught.....
(but not foiled early enough)
Kingofalldems
(39,645 posts)JoseBalow
(7,671 posts)
Jack Valentino
(2,313 posts)He clearly was not following those, nor the commandement
"thou shalt not kill"...
however, many of the "christians" in America today,
have now rejected the teachings of Jesus as being "too WOKE"--
so there we are
scipan
(2,834 posts)Nothing extreme from what this atheist saw, but I couldn't watch that much.
https://labornematadi.com/predication/vivre-pour-dieu/
highplainsdem
(56,680 posts)Celerity
(50,346 posts)VIVRE POUR DIEU - Fr. VANCE BOELTER (Docteur)
highplainsdem
(56,680 posts)been changed into "a person who cared about other people first."
scipan
(2,834 posts)He's a heavy guy, no charisma, says a phase then pauses for the French translation. Def not prosperity gospel. Didn't hear anything I wouldn't have heard when I was growing up.
Which is kinda strange in itself.
raccoon
(31,885 posts)StarryNite
(11,618 posts)Wolves truly are amazing animals.
ultralite001
(1,777 posts)has a perplexing history...
From the "Revoformation.com" site...
"About the Author
Reverend Vance Boelter was born and raised in the small Minnesota town of Sleepy Eye. A graduate of Christ For The Nations Institute, St. Cloud State University, and Cardinal Stritch University, he holds a Master of Science in Management and has worked in the food industry for fifteen years for well known companies including Schwan's, Nestlé, and Gerber Baby Food.
Ordained since 1993 he has enjoyed speaking in different parts of the United States as well as in several international cities such as Jerusalem, Israel. Prior to 9-11, Vance had already made several trips to violent areas in the Gaza Strip and West Bank where suicide bombings were taking place. He sought out militant Islamists in order to share the gospel and tell them that violence wasn't the answer.
Vance currently resides in Sheboygan, Wisconsin with his wife [xxx] and their three girls [xxx].
The website mentions a book Boelter authored, "Original Ability" (To Be Released Spring of 2006)... Search for the book yields:
https://www.mnafricansunited.org/notid/dr.-vance-boelter-e.d.d.
Dr. Vance Boelter E.d.D.
CEO Red Lion Group
Dr. Vance Boelter E.d.D. is CEO of Red Lion Group based in The Democratic
Republic of Congo. He is also CEO of Praetorian Guard Security Services based in
Minnesota.
Dr. Boelter majored in International Relations for his Undergraduate
Degree at St. Cloud State University in Minnesota. He holds his Master of Science
in Management Degree, and Doctorate in Leadership for the Advancement of
Learning and Service, from Cardinal Stritch University in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Dr. Boelter has worked full time for some of the largest companies in their field
such as Nestle, Del Monte, Tesoro, Marathon Speedway, and 7-Eleven. He has
worked in Operations, Technical Services, Quality Services, and Continuous
Improvement. Dr. Boelter has experience in Eastern Europe, The Middle East, and
Africa.
He currently lives in Minnesota with his wife [xxx] and their children.
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Internet Archive:
https://web.archive.org/web/20240126143551/https://www.redliongroupdrc.com/
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From Open Corporates:
REVOFORMATION MINISTRIES INC.
Company Number
R045450
Status
Administratively Dissolved
Incorporation Date
12 April 2006 (about 19 years ago)
Dissolution Date
21 August 2012
Company Type
Nonstock Corporation
Jurisdiction
Wisconsin (US)
Inactive Directors / Officers
VANCE BOELTER, agent
* * * *
SOULJER SECURITY, LLC
Company Number
S055612
Status
Administratively Dissolved
Incorporation Date
15 November 1999 (over 25 years ago)
Dissolution Date
12 May 2010
Company Type
Domestic Limited Liability Company
Jurisdiction
Wisconsin (US)
Inactive Directors / Officers
VANCE BOELTER, agent
* * * * *
You Give Them Something to Eat, Inc. nonprofit
Company Number
a0e13afb-45d8-eb11-9189-00155d01c40e
Native Company Number
1241707600027
Status
Inactive
Incorporation Date
28 June 2021 (almost 4 years ago)
Company Type
Nonprofit Corporation (Domestic)
Jurisdiction
Minnesota (US)
Registered Address
10736 Alameda Avenue
Inver Grove Heights
55077
MN
USA
Governing Legislation
317A
Inactive Directors / Officers
Vance Boelter, incorporator
Recent filings for You Give Them Something to Eat, Inc.
25 Jan 2023
Involuntary Dissolution
28 Jun 2021
Original Filing
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Notice of Appointment to Gov Walz's Workforce Development Board:
https://officialdocuments.sos.mn.gov/Files/GetDocument/121696
ultralite001
(1,777 posts)Praetorian Guard Security Services, LLC
https://www.pguards.net/
https://www.pguards.net/leadership-team
Incorporated under his wife's name:
President and CEO
Jenny
Minnesota Business Name
Praetorian Guard Security Services LLC
Business Type
Limited Liability Company (Domestic)
MN Statute
322C
File Number
1031717000021
Home Jurisdiction
Minnesota
Filing Date
9/12/2018
Status
Active / In Good Standing
Renewal Due Date
12/31/2026
Registered Office Address
xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxxx
USA
Registered Agent(s)
(Optional) Currently No Agent
Mailing Address
xxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx
USA
Principal Executive Office Address
xxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx
USA
Manager
Jenny Boelter
xxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx
USA
* * * * * *
Open Corporates
Company Number
0792690a-c0b6-e811-9165-00155d0deff0
Native Company Number
1031717000021
Status
Active
Incorporation Date
12 September 2018 (almost 7 years ago)
Company Type
Limited Liability Company (Domestic)
Jurisdiction
Minnesota (US)
Registered Address
4617 Colorado Street SE
Prior Lake
55372
MN
USA
Governing Legislation
322C
Directors / Officers
Adam J. Blahnik, organizer
Jenny Boelter, manager
* * * * * *
Praetorian Guard Security Services
Sep 20, 2018
MINNESOTA SECRETARY OF STATE CERTIFICATE OF ASSUMED NAME Minnesota Statutes, 333 The filing of an assumed name does not provide a user with exclusive rights to that name. The filing is required for consumer protection in order to enable customers to be able to identify the true owner of a business. ASSUMED NAME: Praetorian Guard Security Services PRINCIPAL PLACE OF BUSINESS: 10736 Alameda Avenue Inver Grove Heights, MN 55077 NAMEHOLDER(S): Praetorian Guard Security Services, LLC 4617 Colorado Street SE Prior Lake, MN 55372 I, the undersigned, certify that I am signing this document as the person whose signature is required, or as agent of the person(s) whose signature would be required who has authorized me to sign this document on his/her behalf, or in both capacities. I further certify that I have completed all required fields, and that the information in this document is true and correct and in compliance with the applicable chapter of Minnesota Statutes. I understand that by signing this document I am subject to the penalties of perjury as set forth in Section 609.48 as if I had signed this document under oath. DATE FILED: September 13, 2018 SIGNED BY: Adam J. Blahnik Published in the Dakota County Tribune September 20, 27, 2018 858767
RockRaven
(17,402 posts)Not snark. Genuine question.
ultralite001
(1,777 posts)Would like to find a link to his book, "Original Ability"...
Chemical Bill
(2,812 posts)turn the other cheek when attacked?
ultralite001
(1,777 posts)This sermon, "Living for God," begins w/ Boelter's "testimony"...
[beginning at 49:17-01:27:05]
It is broadcast w/ parallel translation in French...
VIVRE POUR DIEU - Fr. VANCE BOELTER (Docteur)
ceflabornematadi.officiel
Streamed live on Sep 26, 2021
[beginning at 49:17-01:27:05]
Thanks, brother.
Thank you. Thank you.
I feel the presence of the Lord in this place.
Could you pray with me, please?
Jesus, we thank you for this day. We thank you for every person gathered here, and for every person that would hear this service today.
We pray you watch over them, watch over us, and may the words that I share be pleasing in your sight this morning. Amen.
Thank you for allowing me to be here with you this morning. It's an honor to be here, and I thought I would start by sharing my testimony... how I came to be a Christian.
I was raised in a church since I was the smallest child. I believed in the Bible. I believed in God. I tried to live a moral life. I didn't drink, didn't smoke. Didn't swear. Didn't cuss. I respected my parents, but there was something missing.
When I was a young man, I worked at a factory. It was a vegetable canning factory. I was 17 at that time, and I worked with a man who talked about God all the time.
I would talk about God once in a while or if I found myself in a difficult situation, I would pray, but this guy talked about God all the time.
And I had... There was a hunger stirring in my heart, so every time I went to work, I tried to work right next to that man, and I would ask him questions.
I would ask him questions about God, about faith, about things in the Bible, and I started reading the Bible. I'd read it in the morning before I went to work. I took it to work, and at break I would read the Bible, and I'd get home, and I'd read the Bible after work... and there was this stirring in my heart.
One day at the plant there was a break down, and they sent us away for an hour. This man was from another town. He was from another city -- the guy I worked next to... So I asked him, "What are you going to do for this hour? We can't work."
He said, "There's a lake not far. I'm gonna go there, and I'm gonna pray, and then I'll be back."
And I started thinking, "What would you talk to God for an hour about?" And I saw that he had a relationship with God I didn't have.
It was either than night or a few nights after that when I got home. I started thinking about my life... How I tried to be a moral person... But I asked myself this question: "Who am I living for? Am I living for God, or am I living for myself?"
I was a moral person. I tried to be a moral person, but there were benefits to that. If you're an honest person, people will treat you well. If you're a moral person, there are benefits to that.
If you respect your parents, there are benefits to that. And I looked at my life, and the answer to that question was, "I'm living for me. I'm not living for God."
And when the reality of that hit me, I -- I wept, and I cried. I cried and I cried and I cried. I never cried so hard in my life. I probably wept for a half hour. For a long time, I wept... I cried, and I got on my knees, and I prayed, "God,"... And I remembered every thing I heard in the church services growing up, and I thought of everything Jesus did for me, and I said, "I'm so sorry. Forgive me, God, for living for myself and not for you."
And I said, "Jesus, if you forgive me of my sin and save me, I'll live for you for the rest of my life."
And the presence of God came in that room, and I knew I was right with God, and He changed that selfish person into a person who cared about other people first.
And that encounter with God is just like it happened yesterday. And there became a fire in my heart to live for God, and I went and I had a pamphlet printed of my testimony, and I went around my home town and I knocked on every door. I gave them my pamphlet. I said, "This is what Jesus did for me. He changed my life, and he can change your life, too."
I would save my money so I could go to other places and tell people about Jesus. I would take as many pamphlets in the language as I could. That was usually about 10 thousand pamphlets, and I would go to the places that a lot of people didn't want to go to.
In the Middle East, I went to the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, Southern Lebanon, and I would give pamphlets to everybody I could, and the only time I would stop is when someone came up with a gun and say, "You need to come with me."
Israeli police stopped me. Israeli army. Palestinian soldiers. UN troops and private security. But I just wanted to tell people about Jesus and what he did for my life.
Living for Jesus isn't easy. When we had... Pastor [xxx] said I had four, but I have five children.
First we had a daughter, and we thought of all God's grace he has given to us, so we named our first daughter, Grace. We had another daughter. God gives you grace, and then you need to have faith. We named our second daughter, Faith. When God gives you grace and you respond with faith, it results in hope. We had a third daughter. Guess what we named her? Hope. Then we had a boy... a son... and I'll tell you why we named him. But our last daughter... our fifth child... we named Joy.
God gives you grace. You express faith. That results in hope... and joy. Amen.
I made a promise to God when I was a young Christian in school... I went to college, I met a believer who discipled me and taught me much about Jesus. His name was David Emerson. About a year later, after I met him, he told me... He was so excited... that he said, "I am going to Africa. I am going with a ministry, and we are going to dig wells for people because they need good water, and then we'll share the gospel."
And I remember the summer he left for Africa, he stopped by to see me in my hometown... to see me one more time before he left, and I felt I should get him to pray for me and bless me.
He went to Africa. He was in Zimbabwe. He sent me letters. He was engaged. He was so excited about God and the Gospel. A short time later people did not want them in the area, so they lied about them, and they said that they were communists, and my friend did not believe in guards or security because, he said, "If somebody comes and they don't know God, and they get killed by security, they're lost."
People came to their farm site... where they were living... and they didn't want to use guns because guns were too loud, so they came with machetes, and they killed everybody. My friend, his fiancee, and about 16 other people. Only two children survived. They hid. They called it the New Adams Farm Massacre. I said, "It was called the New Adams Farm Massacre." They said it was the worst massacre since the Rhodesian war in that country.
I saw it on the news when I was in America, and I cried because I knew on this earth I would see my friend no more, but I would see him again because he knows Jesus, and I can tell you, There was no bitterness in my heart toward the people that killed him. No bitterness. Because I knew if those people that did that horrible thing... if those people that killed them... if they had known Jesus... they wouldn't have done that. So I felt compassion for those people.
I share that story because following Jesus isn't always easy. Me and Pastor [xxx] were talking about the disciples that Jesus had. Eleven of the twelve died horrible deaths... serving the Lord. Some people, especially in America, say if you follow Jesus everything will go good for you. That's not in the Bible. It's not there.
Everything in the Bible is true, and it works for every person everywhere. In communist countries, you tell people you're going to serve Jesus... they may take everything you own and throw you in jail or throw you in the streets. So, if it doesn't work for people in the communist countries, I don't put much stock in it.
But Jesus is always faithful. He knows the number of steps you will take in this life, and, if you're supposed to go over there in this life, He'll make sure you get there. What's important is that every step that we take in this life... be they many or few... that every one is done for Jesus. Amen.
If you have your Bibles, please turn with me to Matthew 14. This is where the Bible talks about Jesus walking on the water and Peter. How many people have heard of this story before or read it? I think many people have heard this.
It says, in Matthew 14, verse 22: "Immediately afterward He compelled the disciples to get into the boat and to go ahead of Him to the other side, while He sent the crowds away."
"...He went up on the mountain by Himself to pray; and when it was evening, He was there alone.
"But the boat was already a long distance from the land, battered by the waves; for the wind was contrary.
"And in the fourth watch of the night He came to them, walking on the sea.
"When the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were terrified, and said, 'It is a ghost!' And they cried out in fear.
"But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, 'Take courage, it is I; do not be afraid.'
"Peter responded and said to Him, 'Lord, if it is You, command me to come to You on the water.'
"And He said, 'Come!' And Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water, and came toward Jesus.
"But seeing the wind, he became frightened, and when he began to sink, he cried out, saying, 'Lord, save me!'
"Immediately Jesus reached out with His hand and took hold of him, and said to him, 'You of little faith, why did you doubt?'
"When they got into the boat, the wind stopped.
"And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, 'You are truly Gods Son!'"
The Bible doesn't say what motivated Peter to ask that question. We don't know if the Lord put it on his heart or just on his own he wanted to say it. The Bible doesn't tell us that.
But Jesus responded to Peter, and He said, "Come!"
And Peter walked on the water.
Peter didn't look around in the boat to see what all the other disciples were doing. He wasn't worried what they thought or what other people would say. He just wanted to be with Jesus.
And Jesus responded.
Sometimes we may find ourselves in a boat. It may be right after something terrifying happens. But we will never go wrong if we do something and attempt something that's gonna get us closer to Jesus.
A lot of people look at this story, and they talk about the doubt. They talk about the sinking. I look at this story, and I see the walking on the water... because... because he was moving towards Jesus.
Every one of us are going to be in a boat at some time. Maybe your boat is... You haven't given your whole life to Jesus yet. Maybe you're a moral person... a good person... in the eyes of this world. Maybe you don't drink... Smoke... Don't cuss... But if you haven't given your whole life to Jesus, there's going to be an emptiness inside. That may be your boat today. Maybe you're here this morning, and only you would know this.
People thought I was a Christian before I was a Christian. They looked at the outside, but God sees your heart, and He knows... and you know... who you live for... and I implore you this morning to ask yourself, "Who am I living for?"
And if it's not Jesus... You need to get out of that boat... and you need to head towards Jesus... because He died on the cross for you... He shed all His blood for you...
And Jesus said, "It's finished."
All the work is done. In the Bible, in Revelation,it says, "Behold, I stand at the door and knock." A person painted a picture of that. Jesus knocking, and in the picture there was no doorknob. No handle. The person asked the painter... He said, "You forgot to paint the doorknob... a handle...to open the door." And the painter said, "The door only opens from the inside."
God loves us so much... but He can't choose for you. He died for you. He gave everything for you, and He wants you to be with Him, but the door of your heart only opens from the inside. No one should leave today with that door unopened. Amen.
Because I tell you what... I'm here on a business trip so we can partner with people in the DRC from America... But all the wealth... all the riches... and all the gold in America... and all the gold and wealth in the DRC... If you piled it all up... all the wealth... in America... in the DRC... It's not worth... It's not worth... the value of the person on your left... or the person on your right... or any person you see going home today... That person selling on the street... the vendor... That person's soul and their life is worth more to God than all the wealth in the world because He gave... God gave His only son for every person.
Your boat today may be about something God is calling you to... something the Lord wants to do in your life... or maybe it's something you want to do for the Lord.
Get out of the boat. Step out in faith. Believe God... because this is what I believe... Failing at anything in this life with Jesus by your side is a thousand times more valuable... than succeeding in everything in this life without Jesus by your side.
When Jesus is by your side, you always win. Amen.
Your life may be short on this earth... or it may be long... but you will have succeeded.
When I learned my friend, David Emerson, died in Africa, I made the Lord a promise. I said, "If you ever bless me with a son"... because I was single. I wasn't married at the time. I said, "I will name my son David Emerson." So, when God blessed me with a son, I named him David Emerson Boelter." That's where my son, David, got his name.
Jesus gives us many things. Joy is one thing He wants for all His people. In John 15:11, it says, These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full."
The Bible says the fruit of the Spirit is Love, Joy... Joy is the second thing...
The Bible says the Kingdom of God is not eating and drinking... but it's righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
And we should have joy in our hearts. Amen?
Joy doesn't come from the things in this world. I've been to the Middle East and Eastern Europe and I've met many wonderful believers. Many of them spent more of their lives in jail than... than free... but they have a joy in their hearts that the world can't give... and the world can't take away.
And can I be myself today? Can I be myself?
In America, when I think of what Jesus has done for me... How He has forgiven me... How He has forgiven me all my sins. He puts a joy in my heart.
The Bible talks about calves that are born, and they skip around in the stalls. Baby calves that jump... are happy... being joyful... and I get joyful about Jesus.
When I was 17 and I first got saved, I was excited about Jesus... and I'm just as excited about Jesus right here... right now.
And when I get excited, I want to dance. And what Jesus did for me... Ho ho... Ha... Mighty God... He saved my life... Whooo... I'm excited about God. I want to worship him. Almighty God, and He's coming again... And He's got plans... He's got plans... and purposes... for each one of you... and for me...
But we've got to get out of the boat. Stop looking around for what other people are doing. Just get out of the boat. Walk on the water. If you're getting closer to Jesus, you will win. You will succeed.
Thank you very much. God bless you.
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A few other sermons are also posted online here... (translated into English)
https://labornematadi.com/?s=Vance+BOELTE
Like:
Matthew 14:22-33
No child of God should take a step on earth without Jesus.
When we read this passage, we notice that the Bible says nothing about what motivated Peter to say to Jesus, "If it is you, command me to come to you." Jesus simply answered Peter, "Come." Peter stood and walked on the water. He did not look around to see what the other disciples said about him; he simply walked.
It is obvious that if we decide to get up and follow Jesus, men may discourage us, but let us not follow them.
Peter was in the boat with the other disciples without Jesus. If you are in the boat without Jesus you will always have an emptiness in your hearts. So, beloved, get out of your boat and follow Jesus because he gave his life for you, he wants you to be entirely for him and for your hearts to open to him. Even when you experience difficult situations, do not hesitate to cry out to him and he will act (Matthew 14:29-30).
All the wealth of the United States and the DRC put together cannot equal the value of a soul; this is why God, in his love, gave his only Son so that no soul would perish.
Come out, beloved, from your boat (from your routine life without Jesus) and walk with Jesus. If you are with Jesus, you will always overcome; no matter how long you live on earth. Jesus has a wonderful plan for you.
It is better to fail in coming to Jesus than to fail without Him; knowing that Jesus never lets anyone who comes to fail him on the way, he always comes to his aid.
Give your life to Jesus and you will see his wonders in your life!
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Comments:
1. Assemblies of God / Pentecostal
2. Uses New American Standard translation of the Bible
3. Does the State Department have this individual's travel history???
4. Will we see his passports for all this oveseas travel he is said to have done???
5. Do copies of the printed "pamphlet" of his testimony exist??? How does it differ from his manifesto???
TacosUberAlles
(11 posts)Consider getting the archive extension where you simply right click & it will show you the page if it's already been archived or you can archive it if it hasn't been yet. Link to Chrome store for Archive extension
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Magoo48
(6,440 posts)RussBLib
(9,906 posts)bdamomma
(68,570 posts)I hope they find this maniac soon.
https://nypost.com/2025/06/14/us-news/suspect-in-deadly-minnesota-shootings-identified-as-vance-luther-boelter/
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(662 posts)
Evolve Dammit
(20,813 posts)Godot51
(492 posts)At least we're safe from illegal immigrants/Venezuelan gangs/and drug smugglers from Canada...
Swede
(36,456 posts)
RockRaven
(17,402 posts)LiberalArkie
(18,411 posts)moniss
(7,475 posts)immediately labeled him.
dchill
(42,603 posts)Plenty of darkness, though.
LetMyPeopleVote
(164,753 posts)Oopsie Daisy
(5,880 posts)Coventina
(28,396 posts)
I love Jesus.
I am growing to despise Christians.
Jack Valentino
(2,313 posts)I can only think of a few possibilities---
although if the 'Son of God' decides to throw a lightning bolt
at the Antichrist, it isn't "assassination"---
it is "judgement" !
W_HAMILTON
(9,103 posts)From a Reuters article:
David Carlson, 59, told Reuters that he has been sharing a house in Minneapolis with Boelter for a little more than a year and last saw him on Friday night. Then about 6 a.m. on Saturday, he received a text from Boelter.
"He said that he might be dead soon," said Carlson, who called police.
...
Carlson said Boelter voted for Trump, was a Christian and did not like abortion...
Taken from: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/minnesota-shooting-suspect-told-friend-in-text-message-i-might-be-dead-soon/ar-AA1GJa3g
hildegaard28
(532 posts)The violent ones, not ICE protesters. We need to send the military into Evangelical churches to get them under control.
markodochartaigh
(3,035 posts)That wouldn't be difficult since so many of them are already there.
AntiFascist
(13,334 posts)and they are more widespread than we may realize. MAGA is a relatively new invention, but these people have been around for decades. They armed the Mujahideen to defeat the "godless" Soviets in Afghanistan, and this lead to the creation of al Quida. They are not unlike the supreme leadership of Iran.
Ilsa
(62,882 posts)Has Boelter's name and address on the page. Maybe Boelter uses it to draw money into another account for his escape.
bluestarone
(19,845 posts)Why run away? Wouldn't GAWED protect him? Guess he has 1/2 faith huh?
Takket
(23,003 posts)B.See
(5,609 posts)by TRUMP'S rhetoric and venom. More blood on HIS hands.