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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:12 AM Jun 15

Minnesota assassin who shot DEM lawmakers "voted for Trump and was a strong Trump supporter," says his best friend.

And there it is. The Minnesota assassin who shot Democratic lawmakers “voted for Donald Trump and was a strong Trump supporter,” according to his best friend.

And there it is. The Minnesota assassin who shot Democratic lawmakers “voted for Donald Trump and was a strong Trump supporter,” according to his best friend.

Brian Tyler Cohen (@briantylercohen.bsky.social) 2025-06-14T22:53:27.515Z


Minnesota assassin who shot DEM lawmakers “voted for Trump and was a strong Trump supporter,” says his best friend.

I mean, is this remotely surprising? People who follow, worship, support (or whatever fucking verb you choose) are NOT strong, stable, or functioning adults. These are damaged, broken, or stupid people. Take your pick. That goes for elected reps too (looking at you Mike Johnson, you fuckstain).

Shark Bubbles (@sharkbubbles.bsky.social) 2025-06-15T02:44:05.536Z


(@lvnvrcd.bsky.social) 2025-06-14T23:13:01.184Z


We The People (@loreenahimura.bsky.social) 2025-06-15T01:53:48.665Z
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Minnesota assassin who shot DEM lawmakers "voted for Trump and was a strong Trump supporter," says his best friend. (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 15 OP
I saw someone tut-tutting us about jumping to conclusions because MAGAts mock us because we are so often wrong. W_HAMILTON Jun 15 #1
There are some people here JBTaurus83 Jun 15 #2
the post I responded to earlier stopdiggin Jun 15 #10
I don't know, but the guy just assassinated a Democratic politician, had numerous other Democrats on his kill list... W_HAMILTON Jun 15 #11
so then - that MUST have been what he (and militia buds) stopdiggin Jun 15 #14
You seem to be hung up on the militia part and not the assassinations and their impact on the protests part. W_HAMILTON Jun 15 #15
OK - then let's stick to saying "this is what happened" stopdiggin Jun 15 #16
Because this is a discussion board and it's expected that people will be giving their opinions on such breaking news...? W_HAMILTON Jun 15 #17
opinion is one thing (particularly when presented as, "and I think") stopdiggin Jun 15 #18
*Occam's Razor. WarGamer Jun 15 #19
If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it. Norrrm Jun 15 #3
Post removed Post removed Jun 15 #4
Is that true? displacedvermoter Jun 15 #5
Even if it is MustLoveBeagles Jun 15 #7
No, that doesn't appear to have any relation to a motive at all; D. Spaulding Jun 15 #8
There is no evidence at this time that Speaker Hortman was shot for her vote on healthcare indigovalley Jun 15 #6
thank you! and in fact ALL speculation about motive or intent stopdiggin Jun 15 #9
Anyone who thinks the killer was a Democrat TheFarseer Jun 15 #12
So why aren't the network and cable folks pointing this out? malaise Jun 15 #13

W_HAMILTON

(9,381 posts)
1. I saw someone tut-tutting us about jumping to conclusions because MAGAts mock us because we are so often wrong.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:16 AM
Jun 15

Yeah, fuck that gaslighting.

9.5 times out of 10 times we are right.

I tried to go back and reply to the poster expressing similar sentiments, but I couldn't find the post with all the activity today...

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
10. the post I responded to earlier
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:37 AM
Jun 15

had this as part of a militia plot to draw attention away from massive 'No Kings' protests ....

Have we seen any confirmation on that particular conjecture ?

W_HAMILTON

(9,381 posts)
11. I don't know, but the guy just assassinated a Democratic politician, had numerous other Democrats on his kill list...
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 04:00 AM
Jun 15

...had "No Kings" protest flyers in his vehicle, and his actions resulted in Minnesota public officials urging people not to attend the scheduled protests in their state.

I don't know where the militia part comes in -- or if that part even matters... -- but everything else speaks for itself. It did draw attention away from the protests and I'm sure it resulted in fewer protesting in Minnesota because they heeded the warnings from public officials.

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
14. so then - that MUST have been what he (and militia buds)
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 11:44 AM
Jun 15

had in mind ?
Or, as another poster put it, "An effect does not create a motive .."

( But - it becomes apparent that many are not bothered by this brand of logic .. While I find it unfortunate. )

W_HAMILTON

(9,381 posts)
15. You seem to be hung up on the militia part and not the assassinations and their impact on the protests part.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jun 15

I'm not, because the former (conjecture, as you yourself pointed out) has nothing to do with the latter (it's factual truth that the assassinations not only drew attention away from the protests but also impacted their attendance in the state where the killings took place).

Whether that was the murderer's motive or not, (1) it is a logical conclusion to draw based on the facts as we know them right now and (2) it certainly is what ended up happening.

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
16. OK - then let's stick to saying "this is what happened"
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:26 PM
Jun 15

and leave off on the part about agenda and motive - which both of us have now clearly stated we don't know !

Why is it necessary for us to articulate things - of which we have no facts or knowledge ?

W_HAMILTON

(9,381 posts)
17. Because this is a discussion board and it's expected that people will be giving their opinions on such breaking news...?
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:36 PM
Jun 15

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
18. opinion is one thing (particularly when presented as, "and I think")
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jun 15

editorializing (and representing as fact) on motive and agenda - that's moving on into different territory.

I'll repeat - we do not (at least yet) know what this man's motivation was - so representations contrary to that fact - are misleading and false. And in most ethical systems - almost invariably considered a no-no. 'Gossip', 'false witness', 'lying' - etc.

In the case where I chimed in to rebut - the poster was stating, "because they were trying to ..". Something for which we have absolutely no evidence (then or now)! And such statements are fully deserving of rebuttal!

If you would like to stick with that record of, "9.5 times out of 10 times we are right" (dubious as that claim might be) - then you too will be concerned with talking on matters of which we have at least some passing knowledge - rather than just talking smack.

WarGamer

(17,598 posts)
19. *Occam's Razor.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:45 PM
Jun 15

When you look to the sky and see something flying, flapping wings and going "caw caw"...

99.99% of the time it's a bird.

Don't waste energy trying to contemplate how it's actually a drone with motorized wings and a speaker playing bird calls.

Norrrm

(2,536 posts)
3. If not Trump directly executing his 'enemies', he will indirectly encourage his followers to do it.
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:31 AM
Jun 15

Response to IrishBubbaLiberal (Original post)

D. Spaulding

(320 posts)
8. No, that doesn't appear to have any relation to a motive at all;
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 01:02 AM
Jun 15

what right wing site did yo get that from?

indigovalley

(263 posts)
6. There is no evidence at this time that Speaker Hortman was shot for her vote on healthcare
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 12:50 AM
Jun 15

The killer was a Trump supporter and evangelical Christian who may be very pro-life. Right now that is being explored as a motivation because his manifesto included several targets such as abortion clinics and medical centers as well as politicians who are pro-choice. If he had any other political reasons it will be revealed in the investigation.

stopdiggin

(14,101 posts)
9. thank you! and in fact ALL speculation about motive or intent
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 02:31 AM
Jun 15

(at this early point) is merely conjecture.

And, in the end - whatever motive might eventually reveal itself - it is still a twisted and thoroughly warped personal ideation.

TheFarseer

(9,619 posts)
12. Anyone who thinks the killer was a Democrat
Sun Jun 15, 2025, 05:36 AM
Jun 15

Is totally delusional. A Democrat would kill Democratic legislators and take away their majority in the legislature because he hates Trump so much? Come on! Even Magats can’t make that make sense. Of course I read he was doing security in the Democratic Republic of the Congo, so the stupidest among then may try to claim he’s a Democrat Illegal Alien.

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