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Sogo

(6,951 posts)
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 11:58 AM Jun 2025

It's reported that the killer is charged with SECOND degree murder on four counts.

Why isn't it FIRST?? He clearly had planned and prepared and pre-meditated these murders....????

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It's reported that the killer is charged with SECOND degree murder on four counts. (Original Post) Sogo Jun 2025 OP
A Grand Jury has to indict for first degree under state law. NutmegYankee Jun 2025 #1
Thank you! Sogo Jun 2025 #3
Doubt it makes much difference in this case. He's cooked. Silent Type Jun 2025 #2
First-degree murder has to be charged by grand jury indictment, so the initial charge Ocelot II Jun 2025 #4
It WILL be FIRST degree. These are just "place-holder" charges. hlthe2b Jun 2025 #5
He can't have been charged with four counts of murder in any degree. rsdsharp Jun 2025 #6
It was first degree murder with hostile intent. Initech Jun 2025 #7

NutmegYankee

(16,454 posts)
1. A Grand Jury has to indict for first degree under state law.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:00 PM
Jun 2025

It's going to happen soon, but for now they need what charges they can to hold him.

Ocelot II

(128,827 posts)
4. First-degree murder has to be charged by grand jury indictment, so the initial charge
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 12:04 PM
Jun 2025

will always be by complaint for second-degree murder, in order to get the perp held and presented for arraignment. After that the case is presented to a grand jury where prosecutors will ask for a first-degree murder indictment.

rsdsharp

(11,741 posts)
6. He can't have been charged with four counts of murder in any degree.
Mon Jun 16, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jun 2025

He killed two people, not four. He could (as of now) be charged with two counts of attempted murder, and two counts of murder.

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