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Tommy Carcetti

(44,035 posts)
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:40 AM Jun 17

Well, I'll be! Asbestos! It's back!

What the ever living fuck?

What's next? Lead in our gas and paint?





Mónica Rhor 🇪🇨 @monicarhor

E.P.A. Plans to Reconsider a Ban on Cancer-Causing Asbestos
The Trump administration’s move sets back a decades-long effort to end the use of the material, which is widely banned in other countries.

9:34 AM · Jun 17, 2025 · 11 Views


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/us/epa-trump-asbestos-ban-delay.html
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Well, I'll be! Asbestos! It's back! (Original Post) Tommy Carcetti Jun 17 OP
My goodness kwolf68 Jun 17 #1
its in extremely limited use purple_haze Jun 17 #2
Because what's a few cases of mesothelioma? No one will have insurance to be diagosed with it anyway. Scrivener7 Jun 17 #17
Relative to what? Torchlight Jun 17 #37
Mesothelioma killed my BIL. sheshe2 Jun 17 #3
Sorry for your brother in law. It's an awful disease. Easterncedar Jun 17 #6
He worked on industrial ovens as a welder when he was young. sheshe2 Jun 17 #14
And my uncle, and it was a bad, drawn-out death obamanut2012 Jun 17 #9
So sorry for your uncle's passing. sheshe2 Jun 17 #15
Thank you obamanut2012 Jun 17 #22
So saddened to hear this, She. SheltieLover Jun 17 #29
My sister home cared for him, while still working. sheshe2 Jun 17 #61
Deepest condolences, She SheltieLover Jun 17 #66
Yikes Easterncedar Jun 17 #4
FUCKING INSANE spanone Jun 17 #5
Heck, leaded gasoline worked much better than the current stuff. jeffreyi Jun 17 #18
Ddt is already being reconsidered... getagrip_already Jun 17 #34
Make Americans Poisoned Again Clouds Passing Jun 17 #7
So what is the benefit to do this? kwolf68 Jun 17 #8
No doubt, an industry CEO thought.. Omnipresent Jun 17 #10
Trump will establish a market for trading asbestos futures contracts, make a killing when it's legal again. sop Jun 17 #11
It's the best heat insulator there is. Turbineguy Jun 17 #13
They really are trying to kill us! Liberal In Texas Jun 17 #12
Trump hates us so much he wants us to die. No shit. Walleye Jun 17 #16
The feeling is mutual. N/T tonekat Jun 17 #41
Oh yeah, truer words were never spoken Walleye Jun 17 #62
The GOP is intent on killing as many of us as possible. Irish_Dem Jun 17 #19
Next up, mining for asbestos in lands which will be transfered . . . John1956PA Jun 17 #24
I believe most asbestos countingbluecars Jun 17 #20
A country which doesn't have any tariffs on its exports to us. Prof. Toru Tanaka Jun 17 #32
Absolutely. Old Crow Jun 17 #40
A lot of it came from Canada. rsdsharp Jun 17 #64
It doesn't kill you right away. You get to suffer indefinitely. twodogsbarking Jun 17 #21
Soon we will return to doctors endorsing cigarette smoking Bristlecone Jun 17 #23
Yes, the freedom to die prematurely. peggysue2 Jun 17 #26
Only if they're being manufactured by Russia. Old Crow Jun 17 #42
Make Butte, Montana, great again! jmowreader Jun 17 #25
Libby MT is where they mined asbestos Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 17 #44
They didn't intentionally mine asbestos in Libby jmowreader Jun 17 #52
Double cool! Asbestos is the Bestest !! chouchou Jun 17 #27
What's next? Leaded gasoline? SheltieLover Jun 17 #28
At this point, why not? dchill Jun 17 #31
Dead Americans seems to be their goal, so why not? SheltieLover Jun 17 #45
It certainly fits that narrative. dchill Jun 17 #63
Sadly, it does. SheltieLover Jun 17 #65
There really aren't words. dchill Jun 17 #30
Absolute madness. iluvtennis Jun 17 #33
Christ almighty. orangecrush Jun 17 #35
Hey, why not a touch of mesothelioma to go with our lead poisoning, measles, Ocelot II Jun 17 #36
The US gets asbestos from Russia kkmarie Jun 17 #38
Thanks for reminding me -- Link below for photo of Trump's face printed on bags of Russian asbestos Old Crow Jun 17 #48
We are nothing more than commodities to these psychos. hadEnuf Jun 17 #39
He needs to be removed from office ASAP. 1WorldHope Jun 17 #43
What's next? Reading the "lord's prayer" every morning in public classrooms. erronis Jun 17 #46
Not in Spanish. Scary, ain't it? twodogsbarking Jun 17 #49
J&J is probably panting to put it back in baby powder Wicked Blue Jun 17 #47
Those evil motherfuckers should all get mesothelioma -- Tarzanrock Jun 17 #50
My father died from asbestos cancer lapfog_1 Jun 17 #51
So sorry. Fuckers they are. twodogsbarking Jun 17 #54
It's all about the money. Buddyzbuddy Jun 17 #53
Trump's pants are made of asbestos. What other logical conclusion is there? twodogsbarking Jun 17 #55
Make lung cancer great again. Vinca Jun 17 #56
Is Secretary of Health RFK Jr cool with that? tanyev Jun 17 #57
Asbestos is in our water supply, through the cast iron pipes. gab13by13 Jun 17 #58
MATA usedtobedemgurl Jun 17 #59
My father died from cancer caused by asbestos Tree Lady Jun 17 #60
I am so sorry, I lost my Dad to cancer as well, probably because he started smoking at 14 Rhiannon12866 Jun 18 #67
Thanks he was my person Tree Lady Jun 18 #68

Scrivener7

(56,495 posts)
17. Because what's a few cases of mesothelioma? No one will have insurance to be diagosed with it anyway.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:44 AM
Jun 17

sheshe2

(92,935 posts)
14. He worked on industrial ovens as a welder when he was young.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jun 17

It killed him in his 50’s.

obamanut2012

(28,652 posts)
22. Thank you
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:28 AM
Jun 17

After a terrible 18 months, he refused all further treatment or care, and died three weeks later, surrounded by his wife and dogs at home.

sheshe2

(92,935 posts)
61. My sister home cared for him, while still working.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jun 17

He died the day before Thanksgiving and two weeks after my dad passed away. It was a hard year.

Ty,SheltieLover. 💙

Easterncedar

(4,733 posts)
4. Yikes
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jun 17

40 or so years ago I worked on monitoring big removal projects. That stuff is scary. It gets airborne and then it doesn’t take any great exposure before mesothelioma may develop. Smoking makes your odds much much worse, so maybe it’s time to repeal all those smoking restrictions while he’s at it.

spanone

(139,665 posts)
5. FUCKING INSANE
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 09:53 AM
Jun 17

Yes, let's put lead back in paint.

Let's take seat belts out of cars

Let's make candy cigarettes too.

THIS ADMINISTRATION IS THE ENEMY OF US.

jeffreyi

(2,399 posts)
18. Heck, leaded gasoline worked much better than the current stuff.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:53 AM
Jun 17

Let's bring that back, too. And to take care,of the flies and maggots around the rotting corpses from the poisoned gasoline...what could be better than that old standbye, DDT?

Omnipresent

(7,018 posts)
10. No doubt, an industry CEO thought..
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:04 AM
Jun 17

“Trump will be on board for this, as long as we give him a big check!”.

sop

(15,238 posts)
11. Trump will establish a market for trading asbestos futures contracts, make a killing when it's legal again.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:08 AM
Jun 17

Liberal In Texas

(15,419 posts)
12. They really are trying to kill us!
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 10:19 AM
Jun 17

I've seen a lot of patients with mesothelioma in my time working in legal support recording their depositions. This is a horrible disease and completely preventable with banning the substance.


Walleye

(41,467 posts)
62. Oh yeah, truer words were never spoken
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jun 17

I’m hoping our next large protest is dingdong the witch is dead.

Irish_Dem

(72,515 posts)
19. The GOP is intent on killing as many of us as possible.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:11 AM
Jun 17

For the purpose of making money and their cruelty.

John1956PA

(4,303 posts)
24. Next up, mining for asbestos in lands which will be transfered . . .
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:34 AM
Jun 17

. . . from the federal government to Trump's cronies.

Old Crow

(2,264 posts)
40. Absolutely.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:16 PM
Jun 17

Russia is the largest producer of asbestos, with an annual output of around 630,000 metric tons in 2023. That's more than double the output of the second-largest produced (Kazakhstan).

Old Crow

(2,264 posts)
42. Only if they're being manufactured by Russia.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:18 PM
Jun 17

Trump is an absolute effing STOOGE for Putin. He will trash the safety and health of Americans in a heartbeat if it benefits Vladimir in some way.

jmowreader

(52,545 posts)
25. Make Butte, Montana, great again!
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 11:37 AM
Jun 17

America’s biggest asbestos mine was in Butte. I don’t recommend ever going there.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(126,169 posts)
44. Libby MT is where they mined asbestos
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:20 PM
Jun 17

Many people in the town came down with mesothelioma.

Butte is the location of the nation's deepest copper strip mine.

jmowreader

(52,545 posts)
52. They didn't intentionally mine asbestos in Libby
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:46 PM
Jun 17

WR Grace was mining vermiculite, which is a rock that gets fluffy if it’s heated up enough, in Libby. At one point 80 percent of the world’s supply of this very useful mineral came from there. This stuff has millions of uses - insulation, fireproofing, plant growing medium…they even use it as fake snow in the movies. What no one realized until half the town came down with mesothelioma is the Libby mine is heavily contaminated with white asbestos. Since you can’t clean the asbestos from the vermiculite, they had no choice but to close the mine.

Butte is also an asbestos source. I suspect everything east of the Idaho state line has asbestos deposits. There might be some in the Silver Valley, but the ore Hecla is looking for formed below where asbestos is so there are no issues with it in the Lucky Friday and Sunshine mines.

Ocelot II

(126,099 posts)
36. Hey, why not a touch of mesothelioma to go with our lead poisoning, measles,
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jun 17

covid, smallpox, cholera and typhoid? Like Senator Ernst told us, everybody dies. What's the problem?

Old Crow

(2,264 posts)
48. Thanks for reminding me -- Link below for photo of Trump's face printed on bags of Russian asbestos
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:26 PM
Jun 17

If you haven't seen the images, here's one:

https://imgur.com/a/SCfIQ7U

Wicked Blue

(8,136 posts)
47. J&J is probably panting to put it back in baby powder
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jun 17

After all, who cares about the already-born. It's fetuses that matter in MAGAworld.

Tarzanrock

(1,218 posts)
50. Those evil motherfuckers should all get mesothelioma --
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:37 PM
Jun 17

where the tumor grows to the size of a basketball on the victim's chest and the victim suffocates to death. Fuck all these evil, criminal Assholes! Vote all of them out of office and to Hell and gone!

lapfog_1

(31,128 posts)
51. My father died from asbestos cancer
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:45 PM
Jun 17

he was in the Navy and served aboard a Navy destroyer for most of WW2.

You could SEE the asbestos that was lodged in his lung on the xray. By the time it was discovered, it was too late to do anything.

Fuckers!

Buddyzbuddy

(1,200 posts)
53. It's all about the money.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jun 17

Many older commercial buildings still have asbestos. They can be money pits for investors and developers. Or, if asbestos is deregulated it can be a windfall. Buy them cheap now and strip out the asbestos without all of those pesky enviromental and safety regulations. They know the deregulation would be temporary. $$$

tanyev

(47,173 posts)
57. Is Secretary of Health RFK Jr cool with that?
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:08 PM
Jun 17

Maybe he found a YouTube video where a self-taught scientist talks about the health benefits of asbestos that “they” don’t want you to know about.

gab13by13

(28,891 posts)
58. Asbestos is in our water supply, through the cast iron pipes.
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jun 17

Our small town has pristine water but I won't drink it. The main water line that supplies my water contains asbestos. The yearly Municipal water report showed our water has levels of asbestos above allowable amounts.

Our town is starting to replace our lines, starting with the wealthy side of town.

Tree Lady

(12,548 posts)
60. My father died from cancer caused by asbestos
Tue Jun 17, 2025, 01:29 PM
Jun 17

Trump is insane, he and his tribe have to go before they kill us all...

Tree Lady

(12,548 posts)
68. Thanks he was my person
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jun 18

My best friend. Sorry for your loss too.

I loved my mom but we were never close. She lived to 96 he died at 75 in 2000. I was just happy he didn't have to see Bush and Trump. That would have killed him just from that. He was a firm democrat who watched hours of news a night. Watched all the watergate stuff. I used to watch it with him as an early teen.

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