General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMarshall/TPM: No one on the inside of US foreign policy has any foreign policy or military crisis experience
It is important to note that the U.S. has very good reason to make Iran think it may be about to do that. So it may be a ruse. We dont know. But I think its very possible that the U.S. is on the verge of a major, major military campaign that it wasnt considering at all just a few days ago and that we may be doing that more or less solely because Donald Trump is jazzed about and attracted by the idea of winning. And Israel is now winning. So he wants in.
Its important to step back and recognize that there is really, literally no one in the inner discussion of U.S. foreign policy today who has any level of foreign policy or military crisis experience at all. Thats a big statement. But I think it bears out. The two heads of the U.S. intelligence apparatus have zero experience in intelligence work. The head of the Pentagon is Pete Hegseth and he appears to have surrounded himself with lackeys. Marco Rubio is both Secretary of State and National Security Advisor. He did focus to a degree on foreign policy in the Senate. But hes never been involved in any national security crisis. Hes never worked in the executive branch. Even the people who are hardcore Trumpers but had some real level of foreign policy experience, like Keith Kellogg, now have other assignments. Kellogg is envoy to Ukraine. The current Chairman of the Joint Chiefs isnt a career Army Officer. He spent a significant amount of his career in the Reserves. (I dont think at least but not certain on this point that he ever served on the Joint Staff.) The point is that theres really no one in the room, as it were, who is in a position to keep the President from just riffing. And I think theres a decent chance thats exactly whats happening.
More at https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/thoughts-on-israels-iran-campaign-and-donald-trump#more-1521443

Jim__
(14,785 posts)erronis
(20,300 posts)WestMichRad
(2,355 posts)
Im not a drinker, but am reconsidering that choice.
twodogsbarking
(14,135 posts)Ray Bruns
(5,321 posts)
twodogsbarking
(14,135 posts)Attilatheblond
(6,425 posts)He's gotta be WWIII mad and looking for the 'feel better about myself' diversion that always eludes him. No matter what great Trump production he comes up with, it never makes him feel better and always get others hurt or killed.
Saw a video where he said he was really a 'movie maker'. Dipshit should have gone into making movies and leave the rest of us out of his delusional fantasies of adequacy.
slightlv
(5,910 posts)in this un-reality show of his. He directs us as he "rules" us as king. He's emperor of the world, in his mind.
Lonestarblue
(12,717 posts)This could be a catastrophe for Iranians living near the facilities. Not that Trump and his sycophants would care.
ananda
(32,405 posts)I think about it with Ukraine too.
These crazy criminal leaders just don't seem
to understand any kind of danger that goes
beyond the pale... since that kind of danger
impacts them and their people as well.
NNadir
(36,071 posts)...releases would depend to a large extent on what kind of facility was hit.
If it was an enrichment plant, radiation levels would be minor. A reprocessing plant would be more serious.
The former Soviet plutonium production plant at Mayak is probably the most radiologically contaminated facility on Earth. They had a major chemical explosion in the 1950s that spread radiation widely, and after that they disposed of fission products in a lake lacking an outlet. The lake remains hot.
Russia is still there.
It does seem that people living in the area did over the long term exhibit excess mortality with certain cancers, notably leukemia, with excess deaths numbering in the hundreds.
It is very unlikely that the Iranian nuclear program if it even exists is on the scale of the Soviet program in the 1950s, but that said, starting a war out of childish impetuosity is appalling with or without radiation risks.
maxsolomon
(36,747 posts)Not a damn thing any of us can do about it. The wisdom of the American People put this monster clown and his toadies in complete control of the US govt.
His tweets at Iran are an abomination.
BeyondGeography
(40,498 posts)maxsolomon
(36,747 posts)But yes.
Any time NPR platforms a Trump voter, I'm just stunned by their ignorance and start yelling at the radio. Last one I heard was an African American Woman whose kids were just about to be cut off Medicaid. Said she had always voted for Democrats, but she still had a lot of faith in Trump.
BeyondGeography
(40,498 posts)We started fighting during Watergate and it pretty much went downhill from there.
maxsolomon
(36,747 posts)My Dad has never voted for the same person for president as his 4 children.
DENVERPOPS
(12,747 posts)That Putin is amassing Russian Troops on the Finland/Russia Border..........
Yeaaaa Haaaaaa MF
BidenRocks
(1,709 posts)Canister Bomb Units, Cluster bombs.
Ukraine uses those effectively against the russian invaders.
mdbl
(6,738 posts)