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Kingofalldems

(39,670 posts)
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 11:41 AM Jun 18

Here is Trump's swollen right hand:

He puts makeup on his hand! Where's that freaking Jake Tapper? Does anyone know why his hand is swollen and discolored?

My friend Jacquie shared this picture of Trump from the G7. Look at his right hand. It’s swollen and covered up with 💄 MAGA has been focusing on Biden’s health, while they should be focusing on TFG! @jaketapper.bsky.social what do you think, since you’re an expert in the medical field now. 🤪🤪

AuntBunny (@auntbunny.bsky.social) 2025-06-18T12:44:31.768Z
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Here is Trump's swollen right hand: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Jun 18 OP
The media will ignore this too MustLoveBeagles Jun 18 #1
Looks like he is hiding a bandaid on his hand. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #2
And it goes right across a nice vein with a flat spot. Experience recognizes that ms liberty Jun 18 #10
So what is the purpose of this medical procedure? Irish_Dem Jun 18 #19
Usually an IV but it could be a blood draw. ms liberty Jun 18 #38
Aren't blood draws for most people done in the arm? Irish_Dem Jun 18 #47
" Aren't blood draws for most people done in the arm?" 3catwoman3 Jun 18 #52
Also depends on the medication being inserted Auggie Jun 18 #56
He is probably getting a drug cocktail and regular blood draws. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #67
I tell them you will draw blood from my hands. barbtries Jun 18 #72
Same here, they almost always have to go into my hands Bluetus Jun 18 #116
Most are in the arm, yes. If they're going to do several things, could be the hand. ms liberty Jun 18 #57
Sorry Ms. L for the blood draw nightmare. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #66
Now I can laugh about it, unless I'm getting my blood drawn ms liberty Jun 18 #78
At the time it is not so funny is it? Irish_Dem Jun 18 #81
My brother is an EMT and he says you're either good at it or not. Boomerproud Jun 18 #85
The kid was a natural. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #87
I've gotten blood drawn from my hand for 50 years synni Jun 18 #62
They can't find my veins Fiddlelady11 Jun 18 #118
They have Rebl2 Jun 18 #107
I have crap veins in my elbows róisín_dubh Jun 18 #108
I have small veins so they sometimes use the back of my hand when they can't get into the arm. electric_blue68 Jun 18 #114
I'm guessing an infusion site. Saline, drugs, insulin, etc. erronis Jun 18 #40
Not Insulin !! IbogaProject Jun 18 #50
I've had insulin via an infusion - trying to reverse a high blood potassium level. erronis Jun 18 #59
Ok IbogaProject Jun 18 #80
I'm not sure Trump would allow a clavicle portal. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #51
Jesua no. He's not getting insulin regularly into a vein on his hand. THAT Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #83
That is why I am asking. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #84
Simple truth is, we don't know. Could be as simple as Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #92
I think we have some good guesses. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #98
Yes. Let's hope for that. I want RFK and Loomer in charge of his health. Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #100
Given Trump's age and health issues, just talking him out of the flu vaccine could kill him during flu season. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #101
My hand swelled up in the hospital after having an IV in my hand for 4-5 days. forgotmylogin Jun 18 #55
This is a very good guess. I am sure they are medicating him with psychotropics. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #63
As someone who has been on weekly infusion for 19 years misanthrope Jun 18 #99
Musculoskeletal problems caused by pulling crap out of one's ass. NM Grins Jun 18 #74
I doubt that he can reach that part of his anatomy. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #79
He has "friends." NM Grins Thursday #122
It's the gap, as seen by the camera, between his hand and his pants and jacket hem. Igel Jun 18 #113
No, he put make up on the bandaid to hide it. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #115
I have no opinion. Sometimes, the play of light vs. shadow produces odd results. John1956PA Jun 18 #117
The one picture I am referring to clearly looks like a bandaid with make up applied to it. Irish_Dem Thursday #119
Hmmm? BoRaGard Jun 18 #3
What do we expect Traildogbob Jun 18 #4
Your hand would be bruised too, trying to find that mushroom AZ8theist Jun 18 #54
😆 Traildogbob Jun 18 #69
he tried that "alpha handshake" crap with macron again. n/t rampartd Jun 18 #5
As usual for such events, he looks both mwmisses4289 Jun 18 #6
Punched a wall after the parade? Or after he saw all the NO KINGS coverage? underpants Jun 18 #7
Or the ketchup bottle broke and shards ricocheted back to his hand... Unlikely. erronis Jun 18 #42
Or All the Shit he's Swallowed Over Cha Jun 18 #110
These pics keep cropping up periodically jmbar2 Jun 18 #8
He had this issue a few months back. TommyT139 Jun 18 #9
Swollen hands can indicate Kidney and Heart failure... ProudMNDemocrat Jun 18 #11
Bruises can indicate intravenous treatment or disorientation / disfunction. He's been videoed dragging his right foot Bernardo de La Paz Jun 18 #18
There is a lot more going on here with the TACO. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 18 #23
Thanks for this. There seems to be some serious underlying health problems there. brush Jun 18 #22
It is becoming more obvious that the TACO is NOT a picture of good health. ProudMNDemocrat Jun 18 #30
tsf couldn't "do his duties to the country" on his best day. rubbersole Jun 18 #93
So sorry to hear of the loss of your husband. I hope you've had brilliant support Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #33
CNN/Jake Tapper: "Biden left traps in the WH to harm tRump. This is Biden's fault!" As ridiculous as AnotherMother4Peace Jun 18 #12
Can you imagine what the picture in his attic Danmel Jun 18 #13
Dark and musty. Cobwebs and images of Fred haunting him for being such a failure. erronis Jun 18 #45
Trump is not well LetMyPeopleVote Jun 18 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 18 #34
Well, Hi Sunshine!! How are things in Chicago? Do you live near the airport? GP6971 Jun 18 #39
Welcome peacefreak2.0 Jun 18 #41
Now his hand matches his ass, which is interchangeable with his head. n/t iscooterliberally Jun 18 #15
Looks like Ozempic quit him, but I digress. Stubby is probably a nightmare stick Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #16
I wouldn't want to stick him. I don't like Ilsa Jun 18 #26
He's been sticking it to everyone else for YEARS now. BattleRow Jun 18 #58
DUzy!! 🥇🏆 littlemissmartypants Jun 18 #102
Thank you. BattleRow Jun 18 #106
Why does someone need so many blood draws? Irish_Dem Jun 18 #48
At 80 and bieng a narcissitic paranoid POTUS? MANY reasons. Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #70
Seems like the most reasonable explanation. Irish_Dem Jun 18 #77
It looks Delphinus Jun 18 #17
His hand has gone from the size of an 8yr old to a 10yr old, still small. Hotler Jun 18 #20
Winner! vanlassie Jun 18 #32
Who knows where that hand has been? WVlaserguy Jun 18 #21
This happened to my uncle Farmer-Rick Jun 18 #24
He probably tried to touch his wife... ECL213 Jun 18 #25
It's what happens when you only use one hand to harvest too many shrooms. Uncle Joe Jun 18 #27
Hell-infant-titus lame54 Jun 18 #28
Caused by his fall on the airplane ramp that he slipped and fell on? SWBTATTReg Jun 18 #29
Basically, as anyone with more than one cell can see, mwmisses4289 Jun 18 #31
He's been lying about his health since the first time he was squatting in our White House. llmart Jun 18 #86
Designed and directed by his red right hand Blue Owl Jun 18 #35
Remember Mitch McConnell had a similar condition with his hands before... brush Jun 18 #36
That's too far of a jump. It's possible, certainly, that Maru Kitteh Jun 18 #44
The man is nearly 80, dragging his leg and stumbling on AF One stairs. brush Jun 18 #60
When my husband was going through chemo, bamagal62 Jun 18 #37
The media makes me sick Johnny2X2X Jun 18 #43
My hand looked like that when the IV was in my hand but not in the vein. dem4decades Jun 18 #46
If I don't get booted off the site again...... MuseRider Jun 18 #49
Main GOTT!!! It's swollen EYESORE 9001 Jun 18 #53
Looks like a more authentic injury than his right ear not long after he was reportedly shot there Martin Eden Jun 18 #61
Hopefully he did not put a hole in a WH wall when he punched it and only his hand was hurt. appleannie1 Jun 18 #64
Clip from this morning - his hands looked fine lame54 Jun 18 #65
Gout? ALBliberal Jun 18 #68
Without a clearer picture---or better eyesight---not a clue Warpy Jun 18 #71
Pulmonary Edema? End stage heart disease? Botany Jun 18 #73
Evil building up. Kid Berwyn Jun 18 #75
He could NewEnglandAutumn Jun 18 #76
That's exactly what a friend of mine, who's an MD, said ashredux Jun 18 #82
Looks like a corpse SheltieLover Jun 18 #88
Prolly punched a wall after his Devilsun Jun 18 #89
trump is not well and is trying to hide his issues LetMyPeopleVote Jun 18 #90
Geee-- I sure hope nothing is wrong with him... LymphocyteLover Jun 18 #91
What about HarryM Jun 18 #94
My veins in my hands always blow, whenever cksmithy Jun 18 #95
My guess he's EXTREMELY unwell, and the WH is lying about his fitness sakabatou Jun 18 #96
Did he injure it while grabbing the wrong ******? Ping Tung Jun 18 #97
I hope it's heart failure. mzmolly Jun 18 #103
More likely kidney failure malaise Jun 18 #104
Eenie Meenie mzmolly Jun 18 #111
He was trying to 'choke' Malaria ... Tarzanrock Jun 18 #105
Could be IVs placed in the back of the hand. Straw Man Jun 18 #109
His hand has been like that for quite a while. Kingofalldems Jun 18 #112
Message auto-removed Name removed Thursday #120
What details seem most significant, winnie? marble falls Thursday #121

ms liberty

(10,323 posts)
38. Usually an IV but it could be a blood draw.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jun 18

I have two flat spots on my right hand, one at my vein in that same area, after it was used for an IV. The other is from a blown vein when trying to draw blood during my chemo. Since then if they needed to use my hand they've gone in above it, closer to my wrist. I'm odd because I can't have anything on my left arm now, for almost 30 years. I don't have any lymph nodes after my mastectomy in 97, and my doctors won't use my left arm unless it's an emergency.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
47. Aren't blood draws for most people done in the arm?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jun 18

So it would see he is getting regular IVs?
I wonder for what purpose?

3catwoman3

(26,944 posts)
52. " Aren't blood draws for most people done in the arm?"
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:57 PM
Jun 18

It depends on where the phlebotomy tech thinks will be the most successful. Some people, like me, have veins that roll away when the tech tries to get a needle in, so they'll take wherever works.

Auggie

(32,372 posts)
56. Also depends on the medication being inserted
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jun 18

A technician told me arm veins are safer for inserting certain contrasts than hands.

barbtries

(30,523 posts)
72. I tell them you will draw blood from my hands.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jun 18

the veins are so accessible I could almost do it myself, whereas in my arm an ultrasound is required since the needle dislodged during a CT with contrast.

ms liberty

(10,323 posts)
57. Most are in the arm, yes. If they're going to do several things, could be the hand.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jun 18

When they blew my vein, the nurse was drawing blood and knowing I was going up to chemo after, was going to use a heplock type of IV so that after the blood draw she could leave it in and they would use it to hook up my chemo so I would only have to get stuck once. Then she blew my vein, and tried to keep getting blood she start tapping it and I could feel the needle moving back and forth inside my vein, but I held it together.. She got thru and sent me upstairs and I was waiting in the oncology clinic lobby when they called me up to the desk. The nurse said they'd need to draw blood again because the sample was bad due to the blown vein and that's what made ms liberty get hysterical in the waiting room of the (jam packed) Morris Oncology Clinic at Duke.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
66. Sorry Ms. L for the blood draw nightmare.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:23 PM
Jun 18

I have a smaller version, veins that twist and roll all the time. Darn stinkin' veins.

I have been lucky when they use a butterfly pediatric needle, I don't know if you have tried that.

I think the consensus is that Trump may be getting regular blood draws.
And is on a cocktail of meds.

ms liberty

(10,323 posts)
78. Now I can laugh about it, unless I'm getting my blood drawn
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:41 PM
Jun 18

But yes, I agree - the Orange Monster is getting IV's and probably blood draws on the regular. He's not well. he and his staff know he'snot well, and it's being hidden from everyone else.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
81. At the time it is not so funny is it?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:48 PM
Jun 18

I hate having to get blood draws every six months ahead of my physicals.

You will like this story. Even experienced techs have trouble with my veins.
The last time I got a blood draw, the regular experienced tech had a young student with her.
He was training to be phlebotomist. I was thinking Hell No, this is going to be painful
watching this kid fish around for my tiny twisting veins.

But the experienced tech really wanted him to practice on me. So I said what the heck.

Can you believe it, this kid goes in very confident, gives one strong poke, needle in vein
with no pain whatsoever. I told him it was a miracle and he is a genius.

I hope he is there for my next blood draw.

Boomerproud

(8,827 posts)
85. My brother is an EMT and he says you're either good at it or not.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jun 18

I imagine it's a hard skill to learn. I get blood draws every six months due to type 2.

Fiddlelady11

(70 posts)
118. They can't find my veins
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 09:11 PM
Jun 18

In my arm, so they do blood draws from my hand. But there is something more serious going on with tRump. He is rotting from the inside.

Rebl2

(16,565 posts)
107. They have
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 05:04 PM
Jun 18

drawn from the top of my hand before when some inexperienced phlebotomist could not draw blood from the small veins in my arm. By the way, that didn’t work either. Really bad phlebotomist and that was in a hospital setting!!!

róisín_dubh

(12,047 posts)
108. I have crap veins in my elbows
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 05:15 PM
Jun 18

And they and my forearms are covered in tattoos. I wish the techs would take bloods from my hands or the sides of my wrists.

electric_blue68

(21,969 posts)
114. I have small veins so they sometimes use the back of my hand when they can't get into the arm.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 06:22 PM
Jun 18

erronis

(20,300 posts)
40. I'm guessing an infusion site. Saline, drugs, insulin, etc.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jun 18

If it were to be a long-term infusion or frequent blood draws, they'd probably install a portal in the clavicle area. Be interesting to see if any photos show that type of device.

IbogaProject

(4,552 posts)
50. Not Insulin !!
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:56 PM
Jun 18

Insulin goes subcutaneously into tissue, not into a vein.

So either Saline, Blood tests and/or hard drugs are going in there.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
51. I'm not sure Trump would allow a clavicle portal.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:56 PM
Jun 18

He is so vain and squeamish. A big baby.

Could be insulin. He doesn't have the guts to give himself shots.

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
83. Jesua no. He's not getting insulin regularly into a vein on his hand. THAT
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:58 PM
Jun 18

you can be absolutely certain of. This is what makes medical speculation by non-trained, non-professional, non-medical persons so very amusing.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
84. That is why I am asking.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:00 PM
Jun 18

I have no idea.
But I do know the psychology end of the scenario.

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
92. Simple truth is, we don't know. Could be as simple as
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:22 PM
Jun 18

one of the “wellness” industry freaks he likes to keep around (Loomer, Kennedy Jr.) has talked him into regular infusions of some homeopathy glorified hydration therapy with vitamins and flowers.

I mean, Laura Loomer did eat dog food. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/laura-loomer-pawsitive-pet-food-b2615820.html
Kennedy has eaten all kinds of things. Neither one of them is grounded in reality and Drump has proved himself very vulnerable to grade-A crackpot bullshit as evidenced by the covid bleach injections and lightbulbs up the ass advice he gave.

Too many variables. We don’t know.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
98. I think we have some good guesses.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 03:16 PM
Jun 18

Based upon probability.

If Trump is taking an RFKjr concoction, he could be in real trouble,

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
100. Yes. Let's hope for that. I want RFK and Loomer in charge of his health.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 03:32 PM
Jun 18

That should help finish him off in a more timely fashion.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
101. Given Trump's age and health issues, just talking him out of the flu vaccine could kill him during flu season.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 03:41 PM
Jun 18

forgotmylogin

(7,894 posts)
55. My hand swelled up in the hospital after having an IV in my hand for 4-5 days.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:03 PM
Jun 18

Mine was saline and antibiotics.

My guess is he gets regular infusions and has a 24/7 medical team attending him filling him with whatever will keep him healthy and alive. He could be dehydrated and receive saline if he consumes a lot of caffeine. They likely also want to make sure his blood doesn't thicken up like Nutella. There are probably rich people who get regular therapeutic IV cocktails of all kinds of vitamins and nutrients and other things civilians don't have access to. At his age, he's surely on a lot of meds and very few people would have the patience to sit and swallow 20-30 pills and vitamins at regular dosing intervals.

Having the IV in his hand means he doesn't have to remove a jacket to hook it up. They can also leave an IV needle inserted and taped up for several days if they know they're going to be blood-drawing or infusing him repeatedly.

I'd bet he has a permanently installed IV port that is like a metal button under the skin near the collarbone which accesses an artery. That's the normal spot they'd prefer to access an older person with delicate skin and difficult-to-access veins, but he's busy and having a tube in his neck isn't good for camera, so he prefers they put it in his hand.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
63. This is a very good guess. I am sure they are medicating him with psychotropics.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:20 PM
Jun 18

At times he looks quite sedated, probably benzodiazepines.
And other times a bit manic, so some stimulants.

Yes he is not going to swallow a bunch of pills, everything goes into the hand IV.

Yes I think he is on quite a cocktail of drugs.

misanthrope

(8,870 posts)
99. As someone who has been on weekly infusion for 19 years
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 03:25 PM
Jun 18

I think yours is a well-reasoned reply.

Igel

(36,861 posts)
113. It's the gap, as seen by the camera, between his hand and his pants and jacket hem.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 06:18 PM
Jun 18

Clue: It perfectly matches the floor color.

Other clues: It's where his jacket hem would be and most of us don't clutch our hands to our thighs.

As for the rest, meh.

I've gone to work after accidents. Spill something, need to finish what I'm doing, pivot and wake up seconds later on the floor; next day, black eyes. Spill something, screw finishing what I'm doing in making my huge batch of spaghetti sauce for the freeze ... I need to clean a burn from spilled bubbling sauce and next day go to work with improvised bandages made of paper towels and first aid tape because I don't have a 3"x8" bandage or two. Trip going up stairs, slam foot into stairs, limp next day because my toe is likely broken, but they heal and, well, whatever. (Note that once had an x-ray for tendonitis and the MD asked about the healed-over broken wrist ... "I had a broken wrist?" Then remembered a time as a teenager when I fell, thought maybe my wrist was sprained, but it hurt for weeks.

Maybe there's a huge bruise because he backhanded a WH serf staff member, Melania, or maybe he didn't use his safe word when his hired "specialist" was a bit rough because he didn't want to seem weak to posterity that would be watching the video.

Dunno. But the "band-aid" bit ... Nah.

What? Put the band-aid on over the makeup?

On edit (why bury that in something a click away?): Note that the demarcation line is also where you'd expect shadow to fall. Inside the "make up" area you get what you wouldn't expect--lots of creases and wrinkles. I'm in my mid-60s and every morning look at my face in the mirror and at times my hands and think, "Whose are these? Wait? What happened?!" Outside the "make up" area the skin's pink and fairly wrinkle/crease free. If bright light's overhead--and I mean bright, so that the picture has to be adjusted to handle the different in illumination--you might get that kind of effect. Don't do photograph editing, so dunno, but that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

John1956PA

(4,219 posts)
117. I have no opinion. Sometimes, the play of light vs. shadow produces odd results.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 08:43 PM
Jun 18

Similarly, I can not figure out what, if anything, is amiss if a zoom is performed of his hands and wrists in this photo.



This photo was published today, June 18, by CNN at the following link:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/18/politics/us-strikes-trump-iran-israel

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
119. The one picture I am referring to clearly looks like a bandaid with make up applied to it.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:49 AM
Thursday

I have a number of hobbies/projects where I look at old and new pictures quite closely.

And this is what that picture looks like to me.

Traildogbob

(11,357 posts)
4. What do we expect
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 11:53 AM
Jun 18

Melania ain’t doing her wife duties.
He gotta take care of his own business now.
Straining the hell outta that right hand. And he don’t have enough money for teenage pageant girls to help, he is tooooo fucking cross for most women, except MAGA women. And he would never touch one of those cows with pistols on her ample hips with a tank top, cut off jeans, and in his weight class, the actual class he IS in.

mwmisses4289

(1,350 posts)
6. As usual for such events, he looks both
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 11:56 AM
Jun 18

freakingly doped up and and ready to throw his toddler temper tantrum.

erronis

(20,300 posts)
42. Or the ketchup bottle broke and shards ricocheted back to his hand... Unlikely.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jun 18

I'm guessing he's only allowed small packets of condiments (and drugs).

Cha

(312,346 posts)
110. Or All the Shit he's Swallowed Over
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jun 18

the Decades is Rebelling?

Traitor's hand, Face and now the back of his neck look like shit.

TommyT139

(1,552 posts)
9. He had this issue a few months back.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jun 18

Anyone recall when? I think there was a pic from an oval office visiting dignitary presser.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,774 posts)
11. Swollen hands can indicate Kidney and Heart failure...
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:04 PM
Jun 18

Before my husband died last month, his hands were more than twice their normal size as fluid was building up all over his body due to his having severe Congestive Heart Failure. When not enough blood is getting to the vital organs like the liver and kidneys from the pumping of the heart, fluid builds up over time to where it becomes quite obvious. Complicated by Type II Diabetes does not help either. My husband was not catheterized because he was swollen everywhere.

What is tRump hiding? That he may be more ill than previously reported by his so-called WH Doctor. My husband dozed off a lot due to his heart not pumping efficiently and being tired all the time. TACO Don has been seen dozing off more and more.

Bernardo de La Paz

(56,617 posts)
18. Bruises can indicate intravenous treatment or disorientation / disfunction. He's been videoed dragging his right foot
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jun 18

He's also been videoed stumbling on steps to AF1 and I read that at G7 he used the "short steps" on AF1 (at the back?). He was videoed at the Capitol walking into a pillar and Moses Mike redirecting him.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,774 posts)
23. There is a lot more going on here with the TACO.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:26 PM
Jun 18

Sooner or later, things are going to come to a head. The stress alone is enough to kill a person. What is happening internally contributes as well.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,774 posts)
30. It is becoming more obvious that the TACO is NOT a picture of good health.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jun 18

TACO Don is days into his 80th year. Give him 6 months and it will come out that there is more than meets the eye going on. Given his lifestyle, his atrocious diet, so little sleep, and not having a supportive spouse, things are going to happen the closer he comes to 80.

All the shit Joe Biden was getting at the same age showed Joe still as fit and able to do his duties to the country despite lifestyle changes, etc. TACO? Not so much. Something about genetics one cannot make up or out run.

rubbersole

(9,967 posts)
93. tsf couldn't "do his duties to the country" on his best day.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jun 18

Maybe follow the example of the Secretary of Health and add some roadkill to his diet. McRib (of racoon or opossum) would give his cheeks some color.

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
33. So sorry to hear of the loss of your husband. I hope you've had brilliant support
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jun 18

from hospice and/or friends and family. Death can be so lonely for the living, even when there are many hands to help.

Unfortunately, I don’t see other evidence of TSFs kidneys and heart actively checking out right now. He’s still walking fairly long distances fairly well and unaided in public without the use of assistive devices. His skin is really pink at the ears and fingers, not washed-out, greyish, bluish or greenish.

AnotherMother4Peace

(4,765 posts)
12. CNN/Jake Tapper: "Biden left traps in the WH to harm tRump. This is Biden's fault!" As ridiculous as
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:05 PM
Jun 18

yesterday's CNN headline blaming Biden for not controlling tRump's insanity.

Disclaimer to CNN, Jake Tapper, & tRumpers - My reply title is SACASM - not true, false, stupid. Sheesh - cult members believe anything (Jonestown, Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate, etc.)

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Reply #14)

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
16. Looks like Ozempic quit him, but I digress. Stubby is probably a nightmare stick
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jun 18

for one. This has been spotted many times now, the bruised hands from either a draw or some kind of infusion. It’s more likely to be routine blood draws than an infusion but that doesn’t make the infusion scenario impossible, just much less likely.

I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he got it stuck in his head at some point that he wanted to have all blood draws taken from hi s hand. He’s VERY fluffy, and third-spacey, and his veins are probably crap, just judging by his skin. This means he may have had some tough draws that left his inner arms covered in bandages and him feeling like he looks like a junkie. He also seems like a GIANT BABY who would be “traumatized” by the errant needle pokes and need to fix his scared fee-fees by regaining some control of the situation which manifests by him directing the blood draws to be taken from the hands. Like an idiot. Because he’s an idiot.

I want a huckleberry creme cookie if I win the speculation contest.


Ilsa

(62,955 posts)
26. I wouldn't want to stick him. I don't like
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:30 PM
Jun 18

being abused for stuff that isn't my fault. His veins are probably very difficult to find and pierce since he has abhorred exercise all of his life. Whoever sticks him better keep china and glass and ketchup asay from him.

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
70. At 80 and bieng a narcissitic paranoid POTUS? MANY reasons.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:28 PM
Jun 18

I’ll pick a couple but there are TONS of reasons at his age and being the leader of the free world to keep tight surveillance on his inner machinery.

Anti-coagulation monitoring - He has had covid a couple of times at least that we know of. Clotting abnormalities and other changes like cardiac hypertrophy are common with and following covid. He may have had some angina pop up, or a PE, or something else that made the docs think it was a good idea for him to start anticoagulant therapy (blood thinners). If he failed Elequis/Plavix type drugs he’ll be on good old fashioned rat poison (Warfarin) that requires regular blood draws and monitoring.

He could be experiencing anemia for either known or unknown reasons.

He could be paranoid because Biden was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer that hadn’t been tested for in over a decade. You can see him demanding a test every 3 months, no? I can.

SEVERAL cardiac meds taken for a variety of reasons including dysrythmia should be monitored anywhere from a couple times a year to every few weeks depending on the medication and when it was initiated.

There’s dozens more reasons but the point is - I see horses, not zebras. In the absence of extraordinary evidence, I do not see a reason to believe this is anything other than the ordinary medical bothers of an 80-year-old man.

Irish_Dem

(71,444 posts)
77. Seems like the most reasonable explanation.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:40 PM
Jun 18

But of course, there could be something unusual going on.
I also think he is on a psychotropic drug cocktail to keep him calm and to decrease
the cognitive slippage.

Farmer-Rick

(11,788 posts)
24. This happened to my uncle
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jun 18

After being in the hospital getting infusions regularly.

He would get blood drawn regularly too but it never caused swelling like this

Also my uncle never used make up on his hand and his hand had a distinct purplish color. They released him from the hospital like that and 48 hours later he was back in the hospital getting treated for blood clots. He eventually died from heart and kidney issues.

Uncle Joe

(62,075 posts)
27. It's what happens when you only use one hand to harvest too many shrooms.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:30 PM
Jun 18

I heard it can also make you go blind as well, someone should check his vision.

Thanks for the thread Kingofalldems

mwmisses4289

(1,350 posts)
31. Basically, as anyone with more than one cell can see,
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jun 18

he is sick, and getting sicker. Despite his doctors lying about how healthy he is, he is not healthy in any way, shape or form.

llmart

(16,469 posts)
86. He's been lying about his health since the first time he was squatting in our White House.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:04 PM
Jun 18

I believe absolutely nothing that comes out of his mouth. He is a compulsive liar. He's a fake, a poser, a phoney...all the above and always has been.

Whatever his medical problems are, and I'm sure they are many and not few, I hope the Grim Reaper gets busy.

brush

(60,352 posts)
36. Remember Mitch McConnell had a similar condition with his hands before...
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:37 PM
Jun 18

he had his 'buffering' incidents and had to be led away.

trump's got some serious health problems that's being hidden.

We might be looking at Vance soon, a Hopson's choice.

Maru Kitteh

(30,286 posts)
44. That's too far of a jump. It's possible, certainly, that
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:48 PM
Jun 18

TSF has a bruised hand because of some grave condition but it is way too far of a jump to say that he absolutlely has a serious health problem that’s being hidden. There’s really no outstanding evidence for that and too much that runs to the contrary. I’m saying this as a person who really wishes he would just go ahead and keel over already. I just don’t see the evidence. These could easily be routine blood draws you are looking at.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20410260

brush

(60,352 posts)
60. The man is nearly 80, dragging his leg and stumbling on AF One stairs.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jun 18

Poor diet. He's never released his health report.

Not so far fetched IMO. The next few months will tell.

bamagal62

(3,967 posts)
37. When my husband was going through chemo,
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jun 18

They trashed his veins. Now, when they draw blood, they can get it in his hand. Maybe his veins are trashed.

Johnny2X2X

(22,974 posts)
43. The media makes me sick
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:47 PM
Jun 18

If this were Biden it would be leading the news 247. The media works for the billionaires, not for the people. This is getting almost no coverage.

dem4decades

(12,896 posts)
46. My hand looked like that when the IV was in my hand but not in the vein.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:49 PM
Jun 18

Trump's had an IV in him that malfunctioned would be my guess, what for, who knows.

MuseRider

(34,751 posts)
49. If I don't get booted off the site again......
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jun 18

I would say, you really cannot tell why he is getting a draw done. For others it could be just things getting upset by all the stress but he is a barrel full of reasons to be ill.

Having put myself through Nursing School drawing for a hospital I would say you never can really tell from this. Anything you would guess from looking is probably about the same. You really have to wait for the analysis or a loose lip person taking care of someone.

Martin Eden

(14,475 posts)
61. Looks like a more authentic injury than his right ear not long after he was reportedly shot there
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jun 18

Just sayin

Warpy

(113,592 posts)
71. Without a clearer picture---or better eyesight---not a clue
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:32 PM
Jun 18

Could be swelling from repetitive stress (too much golfing, too many signatures), a sprain from starting to fall and catching himself on a piece of furniture or a wall, some kind of IV infusion gone wrong, throwing an undodged punch at one of his sycophants during one of his rages.

Or it could be something completely different, my own hands looked a lot like that a couple of months ago, swelling in the wrists and knuckles getting extreme enough to merge into cartoonish deformity, thank goodness for dangerous drugs.

The only thing we can say for sure is that it looks swollen.

Botany

(74,527 posts)
73. Pulmonary Edema? End stage heart disease?
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jun 18

When the heart can no longer pump blood like it used to blood pools up ….. the edemas
turn black and blue unless drained.

Or I could be wrong.

Kid Berwyn

(20,870 posts)
75. Evil building up.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 01:39 PM
Jun 18

If we don't do what he wants he'll explode!

Er, check that.

If we do what he doesn't want, he'll explode!

Either way, he looks great in that shade of orange, doesn't he? He really does. A fine look...elephant hands.

LetMyPeopleVote

(165,237 posts)
90. trump is not well and is trying to hide his issues
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:19 PM
Jun 18


This was Trump at the G7
👀 at his right hand
How it’s swollen compared to the left
Now look at the close up
He’s covering his hematoma with MAKEUP
trying to hide the bruising
THEY ARE 🤥 TO U GUY’s
The man is unwell
@FarmLadyFarm
.. weren’t u just saying that
Bingo, my friend

cksmithy

(339 posts)
95. My veins in my hands always blow, whenever
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jun 18

I have had an infusion for surgery. The result is a big bruise. I always told them what would happen, but the nurses (who surely thought they knew and could do it better) then would try my wrist, move up my forearm and finally realize, it only works in my inner elbow. Before procedures, no matter how many times, I told the RN, or whoever inserts the needle, they always had to try it in my hand the first time, before they believe me. I always get a bruise and severe swelling in my hand. They watch my vein get bigger and bigger, and say, oh, my god, the vein blew.

(I guess he is so stupid or out of it, he doesn't know that they can use his arm.)The last two times I have had small surgical procedures, the nurse, asked the doctor, who said, sure do what she says. I always ask them to use the same vein they would use for a blood lab work, the inner elbow. A little uncomfortable, and awkward for the doctor, ( arm isn't in the right place) but very doable. I just wonder if they are cleaning up his blood, giving him a detox infusion, vitamins, etc. There are all sorts of infusions he could be getting that could make him able to appear? to be somewhat healthy.

sakabatou

(44,967 posts)
96. My guess he's EXTREMELY unwell, and the WH is lying about his fitness
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jun 18

Possible edema due to high salt intake (look how much junk food he eats).

Tarzanrock

(1,112 posts)
105. He was trying to 'choke' Malaria ...
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jun 18

and she bit his hand. The Turd is now infected with rabies!

Straw Man

(6,882 posts)
109. Could be IVs placed in the back of the hand.
Wed Jun 18, 2025, 05:26 PM
Jun 18

I've had that for even minor procedures, like colonoscopies. (Sorry for the mental picture that entails ...)

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