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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHere is Trump's swollen right hand:
He puts makeup on his hand! Where's that freaking Jake Tapper? Does anyone know why his hand is swollen and discolored?
My friend Jacquie shared this picture of Trump from the G7. Look at his right hand. Itâs swollen and covered up with ð MAGA has been focusing on Bidenâs health, while they should be focusing on TFG! @jaketapper.bsky.social what do you think, since youâre an expert in the medical field now. ð¤ªð¤ª
— AuntBunny (@auntbunny.bsky.social) 2025-06-18T12:44:31.768Z

MustLoveBeagles
(13,415 posts)Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)ms liberty
(10,323 posts)Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)ms liberty
(10,323 posts)I have two flat spots on my right hand, one at my vein in that same area, after it was used for an IV. The other is from a blown vein when trying to draw blood during my chemo. Since then if they needed to use my hand they've gone in above it, closer to my wrist. I'm odd because I can't have anything on my left arm now, for almost 30 years. I don't have any lymph nodes after my mastectomy in 97, and my doctors won't use my left arm unless it's an emergency.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)So it would see he is getting regular IVs?
I wonder for what purpose?
3catwoman3
(26,944 posts)It depends on where the phlebotomy tech thinks will be the most successful. Some people, like me, have veins that roll away when the tech tries to get a needle in, so they'll take wherever works.
Auggie
(32,372 posts)A technician told me arm veins are safer for inserting certain contrasts than hands.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)barbtries
(30,523 posts)the veins are so accessible I could almost do it myself, whereas in my arm an ultrasound is required since the needle dislodged during a CT with contrast.
Bluetus
(1,198 posts)ms liberty
(10,323 posts)When they blew my vein, the nurse was drawing blood and knowing I was going up to chemo after, was going to use a heplock type of IV so that after the blood draw she could leave it in and they would use it to hook up my chemo so I would only have to get stuck once. Then she blew my vein, and tried to keep getting blood she start tapping it and I could feel the needle moving back and forth inside my vein, but I held it together.. She got thru and sent me upstairs and I was waiting in the oncology clinic lobby when they called me up to the desk. The nurse said they'd need to draw blood again because the sample was bad due to the blown vein and that's what made ms liberty get hysterical in the waiting room of the (jam packed) Morris Oncology Clinic at Duke.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)I have a smaller version, veins that twist and roll all the time. Darn stinkin' veins.
I have been lucky when they use a butterfly pediatric needle, I don't know if you have tried that.
I think the consensus is that Trump may be getting regular blood draws.
And is on a cocktail of meds.
ms liberty
(10,323 posts)
But yes, I agree - the Orange Monster is getting IV's and probably blood draws on the regular. He's not well. he and his staff know he'snot well, and it's being hidden from everyone else.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)I hate having to get blood draws every six months ahead of my physicals.
You will like this story. Even experienced techs have trouble with my veins.
The last time I got a blood draw, the regular experienced tech had a young student with her.
He was training to be phlebotomist. I was thinking Hell No, this is going to be painful
watching this kid fish around for my tiny twisting veins.
But the experienced tech really wanted him to practice on me. So I said what the heck.
Can you believe it, this kid goes in very confident, gives one strong poke, needle in vein
with no pain whatsoever. I told him it was a miracle and he is a genius.
I hope he is there for my next blood draw.
Boomerproud
(8,827 posts)I imagine it's a hard skill to learn. I get blood draws every six months due to type 2.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)synni
(414 posts)It's far less painful that way.
Fiddlelady11
(70 posts)In my arm, so they do blood draws from my hand. But there is something more serious going on with tRump. He is rotting from the inside.
Rebl2
(16,565 posts)drawn from the top of my hand before when some inexperienced phlebotomist could not draw blood from the small veins in my arm. By the way, that didnt work either. Really bad phlebotomist and that was in a hospital setting!!!
róisín_dubh
(12,047 posts)And they and my forearms are covered in tattoos. I wish the techs would take bloods from my hands or the sides of my wrists.
electric_blue68
(21,969 posts)erronis
(20,300 posts)If it were to be a long-term infusion or frequent blood draws, they'd probably install a portal in the clavicle area. Be interesting to see if any photos show that type of device.
IbogaProject
(4,552 posts)Insulin goes subcutaneously into tissue, not into a vein.
So either Saline, Blood tests and/or hard drugs are going in there.
erronis
(20,300 posts)But that is an inpatient or under direct supervision treatment.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)He is so vain and squeamish. A big baby.
Could be insulin. He doesn't have the guts to give himself shots.
Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)you can be absolutely certain of. This is what makes medical speculation by non-trained, non-professional, non-medical persons so very amusing.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)I have no idea.
But I do know the psychology end of the scenario.
Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)one of the wellness industry freaks he likes to keep around (Loomer, Kennedy Jr.) has talked him into regular infusions of some homeopathy glorified hydration therapy with vitamins and flowers.
I mean, Laura Loomer did eat dog food. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/laura-loomer-pawsitive-pet-food-b2615820.html
Kennedy has eaten all kinds of things. Neither one of them is grounded in reality and Drump has proved himself very vulnerable to grade-A crackpot bullshit as evidenced by the covid bleach injections and lightbulbs up the ass advice he gave.
Too many variables. We dont know.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)Based upon probability.
If Trump is taking an RFKjr concoction, he could be in real trouble,
Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)That should help finish him off in a more timely fashion.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)forgotmylogin
(7,894 posts)Mine was saline and antibiotics.
My guess is he gets regular infusions and has a 24/7 medical team attending him filling him with whatever will keep him healthy and alive. He could be dehydrated and receive saline if he consumes a lot of caffeine. They likely also want to make sure his blood doesn't thicken up like Nutella. There are probably rich people who get regular therapeutic IV cocktails of all kinds of vitamins and nutrients and other things civilians don't have access to. At his age, he's surely on a lot of meds and very few people would have the patience to sit and swallow 20-30 pills and vitamins at regular dosing intervals.
Having the IV in his hand means he doesn't have to remove a jacket to hook it up. They can also leave an IV needle inserted and taped up for several days if they know they're going to be blood-drawing or infusing him repeatedly.
I'd bet he has a permanently installed IV port that is like a metal button under the skin near the collarbone which accesses an artery. That's the normal spot they'd prefer to access an older person with delicate skin and difficult-to-access veins, but he's busy and having a tube in his neck isn't good for camera, so he prefers they put it in his hand.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)At times he looks quite sedated, probably benzodiazepines.
And other times a bit manic, so some stimulants.
Yes he is not going to swallow a bunch of pills, everything goes into the hand IV.
Yes I think he is on quite a cocktail of drugs.
misanthrope
(8,870 posts)I think yours is a well-reasoned reply.
Grins
(8,525 posts)Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)Grins
(8,525 posts)Igel
(36,861 posts)Clue: It perfectly matches the floor color.
Other clues: It's where his jacket hem would be and most of us don't clutch our hands to our thighs.
As for the rest, meh.
I've gone to work after accidents. Spill something, need to finish what I'm doing, pivot and wake up seconds later on the floor; next day, black eyes. Spill something, screw finishing what I'm doing in making my huge batch of spaghetti sauce for the freeze ... I need to clean a burn from spilled bubbling sauce and next day go to work with improvised bandages made of paper towels and first aid tape because I don't have a 3"x8" bandage or two. Trip going up stairs, slam foot into stairs, limp next day because my toe is likely broken, but they heal and, well, whatever. (Note that once had an x-ray for tendonitis and the MD asked about the healed-over broken wrist ... "I had a broken wrist?" Then remembered a time as a teenager when I fell, thought maybe my wrist was sprained, but it hurt for weeks.
Maybe there's a huge bruise because he backhanded a WH serf staff member, Melania, or maybe he didn't use his safe word when his hired "specialist" was a bit rough because he didn't want to seem weak to posterity that would be watching the video.
Dunno. But the "band-aid" bit ... Nah.
What? Put the band-aid on over the makeup?
On edit (why bury that in something a click away?): Note that the demarcation line is also where you'd expect shadow to fall. Inside the "make up" area you get what you wouldn't expect--lots of creases and wrinkles. I'm in my mid-60s and every morning look at my face in the mirror and at times my hands and think, "Whose are these? Wait? What happened?!" Outside the "make up" area the skin's pink and fairly wrinkle/crease free. If bright light's overhead--and I mean bright, so that the picture has to be adjusted to handle the different in illumination--you might get that kind of effect. Don't do photograph editing, so dunno, but that doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)John1956PA
(4,219 posts)Similarly, I can not figure out what, if anything, is amiss if a zoom is performed of his hands and wrists in this photo.
This photo was published today, June 18, by CNN at the following link:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/18/politics/us-strikes-trump-iran-israel
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)I have a number of hobbies/projects where I look at old and new pictures quite closely.
And this is what that picture looks like to me.
BoRaGard
(5,878 posts)greedy corrupt republicon hand is corrupted
Traildogbob
(11,357 posts)Melania aint doing her wife duties.
He gotta take care of his own business now.
Straining the hell outta that right hand. And he dont have enough money for teenage pageant girls to help, he is tooooo fucking cross for most women, except MAGA women. And he would never touch one of those cows with pistols on her ample hips with a tank top, cut off jeans, and in his weight class, the actual class he IS in.
AZ8theist
(6,759 posts)rampartd
(1,983 posts)mwmisses4289
(1,350 posts)freakingly doped up and and ready to throw his toddler temper tantrum.
underpants
(191,154 posts)erronis
(20,300 posts)I'm guessing he's only allowed small packets of condiments (and drugs).
Cha
(312,346 posts)the Decades is Rebelling?
Traitor's hand, Face and now the back of his neck look like shit.
jmbar2
(6,956 posts)Is he getting regular infusions?
TommyT139
(1,552 posts)Anyone recall when? I think there was a pic from an oval office visiting dignitary presser.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,774 posts)Before my husband died last month, his hands were more than twice their normal size as fluid was building up all over his body due to his having severe Congestive Heart Failure. When not enough blood is getting to the vital organs like the liver and kidneys from the pumping of the heart, fluid builds up over time to where it becomes quite obvious. Complicated by Type II Diabetes does not help either. My husband was not catheterized because he was swollen everywhere.
What is tRump hiding? That he may be more ill than previously reported by his so-called WH Doctor. My husband dozed off a lot due to his heart not pumping efficiently and being tired all the time. TACO Don has been seen dozing off more and more.
Bernardo de La Paz
(56,617 posts)He's also been videoed stumbling on steps to AF1 and I read that at G7 he used the "short steps" on AF1 (at the back?). He was videoed at the Capitol walking into a pillar and Moses Mike redirecting him.
ProudMNDemocrat
(19,774 posts)Sooner or later, things are going to come to a head. The stress alone is enough to kill a person. What is happening internally contributes as well.
brush
(60,352 posts)ProudMNDemocrat
(19,774 posts)TACO Don is days into his 80th year. Give him 6 months and it will come out that there is more than meets the eye going on. Given his lifestyle, his atrocious diet, so little sleep, and not having a supportive spouse, things are going to happen the closer he comes to 80.
All the shit Joe Biden was getting at the same age showed Joe still as fit and able to do his duties to the country despite lifestyle changes, etc. TACO? Not so much. Something about genetics one cannot make up or out run.
rubbersole
(9,967 posts)Maybe follow the example of the Secretary of Health and add some roadkill to his diet. McRib (of racoon or opossum) would give his cheeks some color.
Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)from hospice and/or friends and family. Death can be so lonely for the living, even when there are many hands to help.
Unfortunately, I dont see other evidence of TSFs kidneys and heart actively checking out right now. Hes still walking fairly long distances fairly well and unaided in public without the use of assistive devices. His skin is really pink at the ears and fingers, not washed-out, greyish, bluish or greenish.
AnotherMother4Peace
(4,765 posts)yesterday's CNN headline blaming Biden for not controlling tRump's insanity.
Disclaimer to CNN, Jake Tapper, & tRumpers - My reply title is SACASM - not true, false, stupid. Sheesh - cult members believe anything (Jonestown, Branch Davidians, Heaven's Gate, etc.)
Danmel
(5,468 posts)Looks like??
erronis
(20,300 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
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GP6971
(35,360 posts)peacefreak2.0
(1,041 posts)Your pizza should be coming soon.
iscooterliberally
(3,095 posts)Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)for one. This has been spotted many times now, the bruised hands from either a draw or some kind of infusion. Its more likely to be routine blood draws than an infusion but that doesnt make the infusion scenario impossible, just much less likely.
I wouldnt be surprised at all if he got it stuck in his head at some point that he wanted to have all blood draws taken from hi s hand. Hes VERY fluffy, and third-spacey, and his veins are probably crap, just judging by his skin. This means he may have had some tough draws that left his inner arms covered in bandages and him feeling like he looks like a junkie. He also seems like a GIANT BABY who would be traumatized by the errant needle pokes and need to fix his scared fee-fees by regaining some control of the situation which manifests by him directing the blood draws to be taken from the hands. Like an idiot. Because hes an idiot.
I want a huckleberry creme cookie if I win the speculation contest.
Ilsa
(62,955 posts)being abused for stuff that isn't my fault. His veins are probably very difficult to find and pierce since he has abhorred exercise all of his life. Whoever sticks him better keep china and glass and ketchup asay from him.
BattleRow
(1,698 posts)littlemissmartypants
(28,279 posts)BattleRow
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Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)Ill pick a couple but there are TONS of reasons at his age and being the leader of the free world to keep tight surveillance on his inner machinery.
Anti-coagulation monitoring - He has had covid a couple of times at least that we know of. Clotting abnormalities and other changes like cardiac hypertrophy are common with and following covid. He may have had some angina pop up, or a PE, or something else that made the docs think it was a good idea for him to start anticoagulant therapy (blood thinners). If he failed Elequis/Plavix type drugs hell be on good old fashioned rat poison (Warfarin) that requires regular blood draws and monitoring.
He could be experiencing anemia for either known or unknown reasons.
He could be paranoid because Biden was recently diagnosed with prostate cancer that hadnt been tested for in over a decade. You can see him demanding a test every 3 months, no? I can.
SEVERAL cardiac meds taken for a variety of reasons including dysrythmia should be monitored anywhere from a couple times a year to every few weeks depending on the medication and when it was initiated.
Theres dozens more reasons but the point is - I see horses, not zebras. In the absence of extraordinary evidence, I do not see a reason to believe this is anything other than the ordinary medical bothers of an 80-year-old man.
Irish_Dem
(71,444 posts)But of course, there could be something unusual going on.
I also think he is on a psychotropic drug cocktail to keep him calm and to decrease
the cognitive slippage.
Delphinus
(12,327 posts)quite cadaverish!
Hotler
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WVlaserguy
(92 posts)I can only imagine and its unsettling
Farmer-Rick
(11,788 posts)After being in the hospital getting infusions regularly.
He would get blood drawn regularly too but it never caused swelling like this
Also my uncle never used make up on his hand and his hand had a distinct purplish color. They released him from the hospital like that and 48 hours later he was back in the hospital getting treated for blood clots. He eventually died from heart and kidney issues.
ECL213
(382 posts)and she broke it.
Uncle Joe
(62,075 posts)I heard it can also make you go blind as well, someone should check his vision.
Thanks for the thread Kingofalldems
lame54
(38,089 posts)SWBTATTReg
(25,434 posts)mwmisses4289
(1,350 posts)he is sick, and getting sicker. Despite his doctors lying about how healthy he is, he is not healthy in any way, shape or form.
llmart
(16,469 posts)I believe absolutely nothing that comes out of his mouth. He is a compulsive liar. He's a fake, a poser, a phoney...all the above and always has been.
Whatever his medical problems are, and I'm sure they are many and not few, I hope the Grim Reaper gets busy.
Blue Owl
(56,568 posts)brush
(60,352 posts)he had his 'buffering' incidents and had to be led away.
trump's got some serious health problems that's being hidden.
We might be looking at Vance soon, a Hopson's choice.
Maru Kitteh
(30,286 posts)TSF has a bruised hand because of some grave condition but it is way too far of a jump to say that he absolutlely has a serious health problem thats being hidden. Theres really no outstanding evidence for that and too much that runs to the contrary. Im saying this as a person who really wishes he would just go ahead and keel over already. I just dont see the evidence. These could easily be routine blood draws you are looking at.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20410260
brush
(60,352 posts)Poor diet. He's never released his health report.
Not so far fetched IMO. The next few months will tell.
bamagal62
(3,967 posts)They trashed his veins. Now, when they draw blood, they can get it in his hand. Maybe his veins are trashed.
Johnny2X2X
(22,974 posts)If this were Biden it would be leading the news 247. The media works for the billionaires, not for the people. This is getting almost no coverage.
dem4decades
(12,896 posts)Trump's had an IV in him that malfunctioned would be my guess, what for, who knows.
MuseRider
(34,751 posts)I would say, you really cannot tell why he is getting a draw done. For others it could be just things getting upset by all the stress but he is a barrel full of reasons to be ill.
Having put myself through Nursing School drawing for a hospital I would say you never can really tell from this. Anything you would guess from looking is probably about the same. You really have to wait for the analysis or a loose lip person taking care of someone.
EYESORE 9001
(28,491 posts)to the size of a normal adult male hand
Martin Eden
(14,475 posts)Just sayin
appleannie1
(5,287 posts)lame54
(38,089 posts)ALBliberal
(3,048 posts)Warpy
(113,592 posts)Could be swelling from repetitive stress (too much golfing, too many signatures), a sprain from starting to fall and catching himself on a piece of furniture or a wall, some kind of IV infusion gone wrong, throwing an undodged punch at one of his sycophants during one of his rages.
Or it could be something completely different, my own hands looked a lot like that a couple of months ago, swelling in the wrists and knuckles getting extreme enough to merge into cartoonish deformity, thank goodness for dangerous drugs.
The only thing we can say for sure is that it looks swollen.
Botany
(74,527 posts)When the heart can no longer pump blood like it used to blood pools up
.. the edemas
turn black and blue unless drained.
Or I could be wrong.
Kid Berwyn
(20,870 posts)If we don't do what he wants he'll explode!
Er, check that.
If we do what he doesn't want, he'll explode!
Either way, he looks great in that shade of orange, doesn't he? He really does. A fine look...elephant hands.
NewEnglandAutumn
(224 posts)Be on blood thinners. If he has heart disease it would explain bruising and swelling
ashredux
(2,735 posts)SheltieLover
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Devilsun
(314 posts)Vainglorious parade
LetMyPeopleVote
(165,237 posts)Link to tweet
👀 at his right hand
How its swollen compared to the left
Now look at the close up
Hes covering his hematoma with MAKEUP
trying to hide the bruising
THEY ARE 🤥 TO U GUYs
The man is unwell
@FarmLadyFarm
.. werent u just saying that
Bingo, my friend
LymphocyteLover
(8,211 posts)
HarryM
(387 posts)His swollen head?
cksmithy
(339 posts)I have had an infusion for surgery. The result is a big bruise. I always told them what would happen, but the nurses (who surely thought they knew and could do it better) then would try my wrist, move up my forearm and finally realize, it only works in my inner elbow. Before procedures, no matter how many times, I told the RN, or whoever inserts the needle, they always had to try it in my hand the first time, before they believe me. I always get a bruise and severe swelling in my hand. They watch my vein get bigger and bigger, and say, oh, my god, the vein blew.
(I guess he is so stupid or out of it, he doesn't know that they can use his arm.)The last two times I have had small surgical procedures, the nurse, asked the doctor, who said, sure do what she says. I always ask them to use the same vein they would use for a blood lab work, the inner elbow. A little uncomfortable, and awkward for the doctor, ( arm isn't in the right place) but very doable. I just wonder if they are cleaning up his blood, giving him a detox infusion, vitamins, etc. There are all sorts of infusions he could be getting that could make him able to appear? to be somewhat healthy.
sakabatou
(44,967 posts)Possible edema due to high salt intake (look how much junk food he eats).
Ping Tung
(2,783 posts)mzmolly
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malaise
(285,749 posts)Ill take any one of them
mzmolly
(52,302 posts)...
Tarzanrock
(1,112 posts)and she bit his hand. The Turd is now infected with rabies!
Straw Man
(6,882 posts)I've had that for even minor procedures, like colonoscopies. (Sorry for the mental picture that entails ...)
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