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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,301 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:09 PM Thursday

Israel now killing children in Iran. 8-yr old girl who loved to dance, 23-yr old poet, a national equestrian champion

Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

FUCK NETANYAHU

A vile War Criminal who kills children

"An 8-year-old girl who loved dancing in a red dress at her dentist’s office. A 28-year-old national equestrian champion. A poet one week away from her 24th birthday. ... All are among the civilians killed during Israeli airstrikes on Iran."

"An 8-year-old girl who loved dancing in a red dress at her dentist’s office. A 28-year-old national equestrian champion. A poet one week away from her 24th birthday. ... All are among the civilians killed during Israeli airstrikes on Iran." www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/w...

Eric Geller (@ericjgeller.com) 2025-06-19T18:00:40.842Z


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Same horrendous war crimes Israel committed in Gaza….

“this is completely genocide and ethnic cleansing…. attacked babies, children, women, the elderly, the disabled, hospitals, ambulances, medics, schools, teachers, residential complexes, worship places ….You have destroyed the international rules of the game, insulted the authority of the UN, torn apart the sense of justice, and hurt human values, and tarnished the face of human civilization."
- Sarbini Abdul Murad, head of Medical Emergency Rescue Committee (MER-C) Indonesia, Director of Indonesia Gaza hospital, in a letter to Biden dated Nov 20, 2023
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Israel now killing children in Iran. 8-yr old girl who loved to dance, 23-yr old poet, a national equestrian champion (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday OP
Oh, shush. An 8 year old child, a poet, and harseman. Obviously dangersous people. Now, they collateral damage. Ping Tung Thursday #1
Post removed Post removed Thursday #2
The more he's being exposed, the more I'm starting to think Netanyahu is the real bad guy in all of this. Initech Thursday #3
Thank you, NY Times, for including the victims' names. CoopersDad Thursday #4
Indeed - rare indeed malaise Thursday #8
Did anyone expect him to deal with Iran's children differently than those in Gaza? hlthe2b Thursday #5
Israel says that the IDF will hunt down all Iranian military leaders. PufPuf23 Thursday #12
Iranian missiles also kill children. War sucks. onenote Thursday #6
Netanyahu is a war criminal, As are numerous other countries' so-called "leaders" IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday #7
Iran has been a state sponsor of terror for many decades Arazi Thursday #9
They are ALL wacko extremists, Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday #10
Right. So while Israel is a baddie Arazi Thursday #13
Never said that.... IRAN government is full of religious wackos IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday #19
Go back and read again. I point the finger at the Islamic Regime Arazi Thursday #24
Twisted words again.... I have always said civilians are the ones that die and suffer IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday #25
Religious nuts IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday #27
True iemanja Thursday #37
The Iranian Regime does not have the moral high ground in this conflict. maxsolomon Thursday #11
Universities enid602 Thursday #14
Amazing how children just leap in front of bombs and missles Buzz cook Thursday #15
Well said! Truth. AloeVera Thursday #29
Thank you for pointing that out. Crunchy Frog Thursday #35
Iran shot a missle at an Israeli hospital and killed this 7 yo girl and her family Mosby Thursday #16
Funny how that's not mentioned by the OP who has been all over DU condemning Israel MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #18
Attacking a hospital is a war crime by Iran iemanja Thursday #38
I've said it before and I'll say it again, MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #40
One can be either for or against genocide iemanja Friday #45
It was not a hospital. Surely you know it was a residential building. AloeVera Thursday #22
No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus Ping Tung Thursday #32
Israeli family killed by Iran. Mosby Thursday #17
Very sad. Just as Sad as the 50,000+ Palestinians murdered by Netanyahu IrishBubbaLiberal Thursday #20
But that's different sarisataka Thursday #21
I am outraged. AloeVera Thursday #23
It is ironic that the four women mentioned above sarisataka Thursday #30
Oh please. AloeVera Thursday #33
Iran, Palestine stillcool Thursday #26
BeBe's spreading the love. Too angry to comment. marble falls Thursday #28
Fuck this bdamomma Thursday #31
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense Ping Tung Thursday #34
I have no use for Israel, but I have no use for Iran, either. Jack Valentino Thursday #36
A lot of innocent people will die in the process iemanja Thursday #39
Please point what war has not resulted in civilian casualties? MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #42
None iemanja Thursday #44
That we can agree on. MarineCombatEngineer Friday #46
Yes, that is unfortunate, and I don't truly wish for innocent victims--- Jack Valentino Thursday #43
My position also MarineCombatEngineer Thursday #41

Ping Tung

(2,784 posts)
1. Oh, shush. An 8 year old child, a poet, and harseman. Obviously dangersous people. Now, they collateral damage.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:21 PM
Thursday

And the murderers were "Just following orders"

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.
George Orwell

Response to IrishBubbaLiberal (Original post)

Initech

(105,380 posts)
3. The more he's being exposed, the more I'm starting to think Netanyahu is the real bad guy in all of this.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:24 PM
Thursday

Fuck Netanyahu and anyone who sides with him.

CoopersDad

(3,189 posts)
4. Thank you, NY Times, for including the victims' names.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:25 PM
Thursday

Too often, I see the media lavish attention more on individuals of one side of this ages-long battle, with interviews, etc., while hundreds or thousands of Palestinian refugees and victims go nameless.

I suppose Western journalism has a cultural bias that favors Judeo-Christianity over other faiths.

And that's fucked up.

hlthe2b

(110,385 posts)
5. Did anyone expect him to deal with Iran's children differently than those in Gaza?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:31 PM
Thursday

How many have been killed there? Oh, yes. Their five-year-olds are all Hamas--no innocents there

And, are Persian (Shia Muslim) children REALLY any different than Palestinian Sunni Muslims? Netanyahu would clearly answer "NO." "Children, Schmildren..." Gotta make a point...


Netanyahu is irredeemable, but as with Trump, scared people will support him.

PufPuf23

(9,457 posts)
12. Israel says that the IDF will hunt down all Iranian military leaders.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:59 PM
Thursday

When will the propaganda start referring to Iranian human shields?

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,301 posts)
7. Netanyahu is a war criminal, As are numerous other countries' so-called "leaders"
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:39 PM
Thursday

Still the entire catalyst was, and is, Israel.

Israel has stolen land.
Israel has killed countless civilians.
Israel has bombed hospitals, ambulances, clinics, neonatal care units,
bombed water supplies, bombed electricity generator stations for civilians.

Committed unspeakable horrors on civilians.
Actually actively stopping, stopped food so 10s of thousands starving

So NO!!

ABSOLUTELY NO!!

ITS NOT IN ANY SAME OR FORM AS THE SAME,

Israel is the one responsible for this madness in the entire Middle East.

Arazi

(8,016 posts)
9. Iran has been a state sponsor of terror for many decades
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:54 PM
Thursday

They’re a Shia country surrounded by Sunni majority countries that have actively oppressed their own Shia minorities. Persian Iran has propped up their Shia brethren long before Israel was even a state

That Iran also hates Israel is just another data point in their regional terrorism.

If Israel managed to effect regime change in Iran do you seriously believe they’re going to give up on nuclear enrichment? (Or funding their fellow Shia proxies?)

The Islamic Republic are not good guys.

Arazi

(8,016 posts)
13. Right. So while Israel is a baddie
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:02 PM
Thursday

Absolving Iran of any responsibility for their own murderous terrorism in this situation is deeply flawed.

I promise you that the next Iranian government , even if it’s a democratic government, will continue “assisting” (cough) their Shia brethren, and will continue their quest for nuclear power - probably on steroids as it’s now globally obviously clear that to ensure national security a country must have nukes.

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,301 posts)
19. Never said that.... IRAN government is full of religious wackos
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:26 PM
Thursday

But to blame Iranians is bullshit.

That’s like blaming millions of Americans for the crimes Trump is inflicting.

ITS THE DAMN GOVERNMENT LEADERS!

I sure don’t believe Americans blame Israel civilians of anything,

It’s the extremism by Netanyahu and his extremist administration of thugs,
War Criminals. THATS WHO AMERICANS HOLD RESPONSIBLE

Arazi

(8,016 posts)
24. Go back and read again. I point the finger at the Islamic Regime
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:58 PM
Thursday

Go ahead and highlight where I “blame Iranian” civilians.

I’ll wait.

(And again, this war has been low level percolating for many many years. Iran is as much responsible for current events as Israel)

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,301 posts)
25. Twisted words again.... I have always said civilians are the ones that die and suffer
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:03 PM
Thursday

Iran government leaders are religious wackos

It’s the citizens civilians that are the ones who suffer when war is waged.

Governments are the problem, Israel is run by a bunch of Netanyahu extremists
that always chose death and destruction and mass slaughter of civilians in Gaza.

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,301 posts)
27. Religious nuts
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:25 PM
Thursday

Agree.

But…to Netanyahu ….
The only human life that matters is their own.

Netanyahu kills and slaughtered 50,000+ Palestinians in Gaza,
with impunity so far.

Hopefully in the near future Netanyahu will be arrested and imprisoned for life
as a war criminal

maxsolomon

(36,747 posts)
11. The Iranian Regime does not have the moral high ground in this conflict.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:57 PM
Thursday

A 45-year legacy of brutal, misogynist theocratic repression internally, kidnapping foreign nationals, a pointless war w/ Saddam Hussein that killed nearly a half-million people, funding and arming Shiite Militias in Iraq, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and selling drones and missiles to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Iran has ALSO fomented madness in the Middle East for the entire duration of the Islamic Republic. I don't want these Shiite fanatics to have nukes.

Israel isn't simply paranoid: Iran truly is their principal foe.

enid602

(9,461 posts)
14. Universities
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:15 PM
Thursday

Do not forget that Israel bombed and destroyed all 13 universities in Gaza within one month of 10/7.

Buzz cook

(2,733 posts)
15. Amazing how children just leap in front of bombs and missles
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:01 PM
Thursday

It's like a weird sport. /sarc

AloeVera

(3,100 posts)
29. Well said! Truth.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:41 PM
Thursday

What horrifies me now is the utter communication blackout. Israel has destroyed the last cable into Gaza. Internet is down.

We are not seeing the true scope of the atrocities. They are being committed under cover of darkness, purposely created.

There is a reason foreign journalists are banned and most of the local ones killed off.

Today at least 16 people were killed waiting for aid. Shelled by tanks, attacked by drones. They can't even get away. At least 50 killed a couple of days ago. Hundreds in the last few weeks. Thousands wounded, with no hospitals or no adequate care. These roundabouts they are told to gather at have become shooting galleries and death traps. Yet people still go because they are LITERALLY STARVING.

I have never seen humanity sunk so low.

Israel IS responsible.

Crunchy Frog

(27,713 posts)
35. Thank you for pointing that out.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:33 PM
Thursday

Hell of a lot of Iranian drones and missiles terrorizing Ukrainian cities right now. Constant bombing raids with many, many casualties including children.

I have a feeling it's not a very popular message on DU right now though.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,782 posts)
18. Funny how that's not mentioned by the OP who has been all over DU condemning Israel
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:26 PM
Thursday

and blaming them for all the ill's in the ME but not once mentions how Iran, through their proxies, IE: HAMAs, Hizbollah, Houthis and various other terrorist orgs., arm and finance those terrorists to attack Israel with the stated intent to wipe Israel off the map.

iemanja

(56,167 posts)
38. Attacking a hospital is a war crime by Iran
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:15 PM
Thursday

Taking out all the hospitals in Gaza is an exponential war crime.

Do you really think Israel can start a war with Iran and face no retaliation?

Israel deserves all the criticism it receives in this board, as do its defenders.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,782 posts)
40. I've said it before and I'll say it again,
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:22 PM
Thursday

I'm all for Israel and Iran to slug it out and may the chips fall where they may, without any US direct involvement in combat, IOW, no US troops, air assets etc.

As far as Israel deserving all the criticism and all here who defend them, the opposite is true, but that seems to be far and few in between with some here.

AloeVera

(3,100 posts)
22. It was not a hospital. Surely you know it was a residential building.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:39 PM
Thursday

Very sad. Nine people killed in that building. 200 wounded.

The tragedies and horrors of Gaza have come to Israel. I do not wish the suffering of Gazans on anybody, including the innocents of the nation inflicting it.

If only Netanyahu had not started an unprovoked, costly war with Iran.....

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,301 posts)
20. Very sad. Just as Sad as the 50,000+ Palestinians murdered by Netanyahu
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:29 PM
Thursday

Seems you will never admit Israel war crimes.

Slaughtering over 50,000 civilians in Gaza


“this is completely genocide and ethnic cleansing…. attacked babies, children, women, the elderly, the disabled, hospitals, ambulances, medics, schools, teachers, residential complexes, worship places ….You have destroyed the international rules of the game, insulted the authority of the UN, torn apart the sense of justice, and hurt human values, and tarnished the face of human civilization."

- Sarbini Abdul Murad, head of Medical Emergency Rescue Committee (MER-C) Indonesia, Director of Indonesia Gaza hospital, in a letter to Biden dated Nov 20, 2023

————

From older UK news report …..

Meanwhile, a doctor from north London, who is currently working in Gaza, claimed the Israeli IDF briefing was an "outlandish excuse" to target hospitals.
Dr Ghassan Abu-Sittah said: "At the end of the day, what they need to be reminded of, continuously, by everybody, and press included, is that the targeting of any hospital is a war crime, regardless of what outlandish excuses they might provide."

Asked if it was possible to evacuate a hospital like Shifa, he said: "How do you evacuate 1,700 critically injured patients? 150 ventilated patients?

"How do you evacuate over 100 patients with burns over 40% of their body surface area? And where do you evacuate them? And why should you?

"International humanitarian law was created to protect hospitals, protect them against this attack and this idea that if you tell people that you're going to commit a war crime against them, somehow it becomes less of a war crime. It is a war crime."

AloeVera

(3,100 posts)
23. I am outraged.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:56 PM
Thursday

Outraged that there is more senseless killing, more wounding of hearts of those who cannot stand to see it. The horror inflicted on the dying, the wounded and the families. More dispossession and despair.

If I had seen evidence that the last 20 months produced outrage and sorrow from those defending the killings, I would perhaps have more outrage left to spare. But now I have to divide it among the 24 Israeli dead and the 53,000+ Palestinian ones and now hundreds of Iranians too.

Meanwhile Israel killed 92 Palestinians today. 144 yesterday.

Including 16 starving people killed by tank shelling once again.

There is only so much outrage and sorrow a person can take or process.

sarisataka

(21,794 posts)
30. It is ironic that the four women mentioned above
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:11 PM
Thursday

Were also Palestinians. But they were Israeli Palestinians so they get nearly zero notice

AloeVera

(3,100 posts)
33. Oh please.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:27 PM
Thursday

They are getting lots of notice. As every human being deserves.

Unlike the tens of thousands of faceless, nameless dead Palestinians.

Why are so many victims in Israel the Palestinian Citizens of Israel?

Because they don't have the safe rooms and shelters that Jewish Israelis have. Their lives not worth as much to the Jewish state obviously.

stillcool

(34,352 posts)
26. Iran, Palestine
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:18 PM
Thursday

same/same. The only human life that matters is their own. Land? Different matter.

bdamomma

(68,647 posts)
31. Fuck this
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:15 PM
Thursday

killer, ICC should get involved with this killer. Go after him for war crimes against humanity. The felon and Putin should be gathered up too.

Ping Tung

(2,784 posts)
34. Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:29 PM
Thursday
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.

George Orwell

Jack Valentino

(2,508 posts)
36. I have no use for Israel, but I have no use for Iran, either.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:10 PM
Thursday

If they devastate each other, that would be fine with me---
as long as WE stay the hell OUT of it!

iemanja

(56,167 posts)
39. A lot of innocent people will die in the process
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:20 PM
Thursday

Our problems with Israel and Iran have to do with their leadership, not their populations.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,782 posts)
42. Please point what war has not resulted in civilian casualties?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Thursday

There's not a war fought in history that civilians haven't lost their lives, and while it's a tragedy, it's a matter of fact.

iemanja

(56,167 posts)
44. None
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:59 PM
Thursday

Which makes war all the more reprehensible, particularly when negotiation was a viable option.

Jack Valentino

(2,508 posts)
43. Yes, that is unfortunate, and I don't truly wish for innocent victims---
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:33 PM
Thursday

but their bad leaders are gonna do what they are gonna do.

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