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IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:09 PM Jun 19

Israel now killing children in Iran. 8-yr old girl who loved to dance, 23-yr old poet, a national equestrian champion

Last edited Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:42 PM - Edit history (1)

FUCK NETANYAHU

A vile War Criminal who kills children

"An 8-year-old girl who loved dancing in a red dress at her dentist’s office. A 28-year-old national equestrian champion. A poet one week away from her 24th birthday. ... All are among the civilians killed during Israeli airstrikes on Iran."

"An 8-year-old girl who loved dancing in a red dress at her dentist’s office. A 28-year-old national equestrian champion. A poet one week away from her 24th birthday. ... All are among the civilians killed during Israeli airstrikes on Iran." www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/w...

Eric Geller (@ericjgeller.com) 2025-06-19T18:00:40.842Z


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Same horrendous war crimes Israel committed in Gaza….

“this is completely genocide and ethnic cleansing…. attacked babies, children, women, the elderly, the disabled, hospitals, ambulances, medics, schools, teachers, residential complexes, worship places ….You have destroyed the international rules of the game, insulted the authority of the UN, torn apart the sense of justice, and hurt human values, and tarnished the face of human civilization."
- Sarbini Abdul Murad, head of Medical Emergency Rescue Committee (MER-C) Indonesia, Director of Indonesia Gaza hospital, in a letter to Biden dated Nov 20, 2023
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Israel now killing children in Iran. 8-yr old girl who loved to dance, 23-yr old poet, a national equestrian champion (Original Post) IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 OP
Oh, shush. An 8 year old child, a poet, and harseman. Obviously dangersous people. Now, they collateral damage. Ping Tung Jun 19 #1
Post removed Post removed Jun 19 #2
The more he's being exposed, the more I'm starting to think Netanyahu is the real bad guy in all of this. Initech Jun 19 #3
Thank you, NY Times, for including the victims' names. CoopersDad Jun 19 #4
Indeed - rare indeed malaise Jun 19 #8
Did anyone expect him to deal with Iran's children differently than those in Gaza? hlthe2b Jun 19 #5
Israel says that the IDF will hunt down all Iranian military leaders. PufPuf23 Jun 19 #12
Iranian missiles also kill children. War sucks. onenote Jun 19 #6
Netanyahu is a war criminal, As are numerous other countries' so-called "leaders" IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 #7
Iran has been a state sponsor of terror for many decades Arazi Jun 19 #9
They are ALL wacko extremists, Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Iraq IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 #10
Right. So while Israel is a baddie Arazi Jun 19 #13
Never said that.... IRAN government is full of religious wackos IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 #19
Go back and read again. I point the finger at the Islamic Regime Arazi Jun 19 #24
Twisted words again.... I have always said civilians are the ones that die and suffer IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 #25
Religious nuts IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 #27
True iemanja Jun 19 #37
The Iranian Regime does not have the moral high ground in this conflict. maxsolomon Jun 19 #11
Universities enid602 Jun 19 #14
Amazing how children just leap in front of bombs and missles Buzz cook Jun 19 #15
Well said! Truth. AloeVera Jun 19 #29
Thank you for pointing that out. Crunchy Frog Jun 19 #35
Iran shot a missle at an Israeli hospital and killed this 7 yo girl and her family Mosby Jun 19 #16
Funny how that's not mentioned by the OP who has been all over DU condemning Israel MarineCombatEngineer Jun 19 #18
Attacking a hospital is a war crime by Iran iemanja Jun 19 #38
I've said it before and I'll say it again, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 19 #40
One can be either for or against genocide iemanja Jun 20 #45
It was not a hospital. Surely you know it was a residential building. AloeVera Jun 19 #22
No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus Ping Tung Jun 19 #32
Israeli family killed by Iran. Mosby Jun 19 #17
Very sad. Just as Sad as the 50,000+ Palestinians murdered by Netanyahu IrishBubbaLiberal Jun 19 #20
But that's different sarisataka Jun 19 #21
I am outraged. AloeVera Jun 19 #23
It is ironic that the four women mentioned above sarisataka Jun 19 #30
Oh please. AloeVera Jun 19 #33
Iran, Palestine stillcool Jun 19 #26
BeBe's spreading the love. Too angry to comment. marble falls Jun 19 #28
Fuck this bdamomma Jun 19 #31
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense Ping Tung Jun 19 #34
I have no use for Israel, but I have no use for Iran, either. Jack Valentino Jun 19 #36
A lot of innocent people will die in the process iemanja Jun 19 #39
Please point what war has not resulted in civilian casualties? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 19 #42
None iemanja Jun 19 #44
That we can agree on. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 20 #46
Yes, that is unfortunate, and I don't truly wish for innocent victims--- Jack Valentino Jun 19 #43
My position also MarineCombatEngineer Jun 19 #41

Ping Tung

(3,152 posts)
1. Oh, shush. An 8 year old child, a poet, and harseman. Obviously dangersous people. Now, they collateral damage.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:21 PM
Jun 19

And the murderers were "Just following orders"

The nationalist not only does not disapprove of atrocities committed by his own side, he has a remarkable capacity for not even hearing about them.
George Orwell

Response to IrishBubbaLiberal (Original post)

Initech

(105,762 posts)
3. The more he's being exposed, the more I'm starting to think Netanyahu is the real bad guy in all of this.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:24 PM
Jun 19

Fuck Netanyahu and anyone who sides with him.

CoopersDad

(3,202 posts)
4. Thank you, NY Times, for including the victims' names.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:25 PM
Jun 19

Too often, I see the media lavish attention more on individuals of one side of this ages-long battle, with interviews, etc., while hundreds or thousands of Palestinian refugees and victims go nameless.

I suppose Western journalism has a cultural bias that favors Judeo-Christianity over other faiths.

And that's fucked up.

hlthe2b

(110,796 posts)
5. Did anyone expect him to deal with Iran's children differently than those in Gaza?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:31 PM
Jun 19

How many have been killed there? Oh, yes. Their five-year-olds are all Hamas--no innocents there

And, are Persian (Shia Muslim) children REALLY any different than Palestinian Sunni Muslims? Netanyahu would clearly answer "NO." "Children, Schmildren..." Gotta make a point...


Netanyahu is irredeemable, but as with Trump, scared people will support him.

PufPuf23

(9,502 posts)
12. Israel says that the IDF will hunt down all Iranian military leaders.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jun 19

When will the propaganda start referring to Iranian human shields?

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
7. Netanyahu is a war criminal, As are numerous other countries' so-called "leaders"
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:39 PM
Jun 19

Still the entire catalyst was, and is, Israel.

Israel has stolen land.
Israel has killed countless civilians.
Israel has bombed hospitals, ambulances, clinics, neonatal care units,
bombed water supplies, bombed electricity generator stations for civilians.

Committed unspeakable horrors on civilians.
Actually actively stopping, stopped food so 10s of thousands starving

So NO!!

ABSOLUTELY NO!!

ITS NOT IN ANY SAME OR FORM AS THE SAME,

Israel is the one responsible for this madness in the entire Middle East.

Arazi

(8,206 posts)
9. Iran has been a state sponsor of terror for many decades
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:54 PM
Jun 19

They’re a Shia country surrounded by Sunni majority countries that have actively oppressed their own Shia minorities. Persian Iran has propped up their Shia brethren long before Israel was even a state

That Iran also hates Israel is just another data point in their regional terrorism.

If Israel managed to effect regime change in Iran do you seriously believe they’re going to give up on nuclear enrichment? (Or funding their fellow Shia proxies?)

The Islamic Republic are not good guys.

Arazi

(8,206 posts)
13. Right. So while Israel is a baddie
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:02 PM
Jun 19

Absolving Iran of any responsibility for their own murderous terrorism in this situation is deeply flawed.

I promise you that the next Iranian government , even if it’s a democratic government, will continue “assisting” (cough) their Shia brethren, and will continue their quest for nuclear power - probably on steroids as it’s now globally obviously clear that to ensure national security a country must have nukes.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
19. Never said that.... IRAN government is full of religious wackos
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jun 19

But to blame Iranians is bullshit.

That’s like blaming millions of Americans for the crimes Trump is inflicting.

ITS THE DAMN GOVERNMENT LEADERS!

I sure don’t believe Americans blame Israel civilians of anything,

It’s the extremism by Netanyahu and his extremist administration of thugs,
War Criminals. THATS WHO AMERICANS HOLD RESPONSIBLE

Arazi

(8,206 posts)
24. Go back and read again. I point the finger at the Islamic Regime
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:58 PM
Jun 19

Go ahead and highlight where I “blame Iranian” civilians.

I’ll wait.

(And again, this war has been low level percolating for many many years. Iran is as much responsible for current events as Israel)

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
25. Twisted words again.... I have always said civilians are the ones that die and suffer
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:03 PM
Jun 19

Iran government leaders are religious wackos

It’s the citizens civilians that are the ones who suffer when war is waged.

Governments are the problem, Israel is run by a bunch of Netanyahu extremists
that always chose death and destruction and mass slaughter of civilians in Gaza.

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
27. Religious nuts
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:25 PM
Jun 19

Agree.

But…to Netanyahu ….
The only human life that matters is their own.

Netanyahu kills and slaughtered 50,000+ Palestinians in Gaza,
with impunity so far.

Hopefully in the near future Netanyahu will be arrested and imprisoned for life
as a war criminal

maxsolomon

(36,960 posts)
11. The Iranian Regime does not have the moral high ground in this conflict.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 04:57 PM
Jun 19

A 45-year legacy of brutal, misogynist theocratic repression internally, kidnapping foreign nationals, a pointless war w/ Saddam Hussein that killed nearly a half-million people, funding and arming Shiite Militias in Iraq, Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, and selling drones and missiles to the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Iran has ALSO fomented madness in the Middle East for the entire duration of the Islamic Republic. I don't want these Shiite fanatics to have nukes.

Israel isn't simply paranoid: Iran truly is their principal foe.

enid602

(9,501 posts)
14. Universities
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 05:15 PM
Jun 19

Do not forget that Israel bombed and destroyed all 13 universities in Gaza within one month of 10/7.

Buzz cook

(2,758 posts)
15. Amazing how children just leap in front of bombs and missles
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:01 PM
Jun 19

It's like a weird sport. /sarc

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
29. Well said! Truth.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:41 PM
Jun 19

What horrifies me now is the utter communication blackout. Israel has destroyed the last cable into Gaza. Internet is down.

We are not seeing the true scope of the atrocities. They are being committed under cover of darkness, purposely created.

There is a reason foreign journalists are banned and most of the local ones killed off.

Today at least 16 people were killed waiting for aid. Shelled by tanks, attacked by drones. They can't even get away. At least 50 killed a couple of days ago. Hundreds in the last few weeks. Thousands wounded, with no hospitals or no adequate care. These roundabouts they are told to gather at have become shooting galleries and death traps. Yet people still go because they are LITERALLY STARVING.

I have never seen humanity sunk so low.

Israel IS responsible.

Crunchy Frog

(27,724 posts)
35. Thank you for pointing that out.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:33 PM
Jun 19

Hell of a lot of Iranian drones and missiles terrorizing Ukrainian cities right now. Constant bombing raids with many, many casualties including children.

I have a feeling it's not a very popular message on DU right now though.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
18. Funny how that's not mentioned by the OP who has been all over DU condemning Israel
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:26 PM
Jun 19

and blaming them for all the ill's in the ME but not once mentions how Iran, through their proxies, IE: HAMAs, Hizbollah, Houthis and various other terrorist orgs., arm and finance those terrorists to attack Israel with the stated intent to wipe Israel off the map.

iemanja

(56,336 posts)
38. Attacking a hospital is a war crime by Iran
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:15 PM
Jun 19

Taking out all the hospitals in Gaza is an exponential war crime.

Do you really think Israel can start a war with Iran and face no retaliation?

Israel deserves all the criticism it receives in this board, as do its defenders.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
40. I've said it before and I'll say it again,
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:22 PM
Jun 19

I'm all for Israel and Iran to slug it out and may the chips fall where they may, without any US direct involvement in combat, IOW, no US troops, air assets etc.

As far as Israel deserving all the criticism and all here who defend them, the opposite is true, but that seems to be far and few in between with some here.

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
22. It was not a hospital. Surely you know it was a residential building.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:39 PM
Jun 19

Very sad. Nine people killed in that building. 200 wounded.

The tragedies and horrors of Gaza have come to Israel. I do not wish the suffering of Gazans on anybody, including the innocents of the nation inflicting it.

If only Netanyahu had not started an unprovoked, costly war with Iran.....

 

IrishBubbaLiberal

(2,561 posts)
20. Very sad. Just as Sad as the 50,000+ Palestinians murdered by Netanyahu
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 06:29 PM
Jun 19

Seems you will never admit Israel war crimes.

Slaughtering over 50,000 civilians in Gaza


“this is completely genocide and ethnic cleansing…. attacked babies, children, women, the elderly, the disabled, hospitals, ambulances, medics, schools, teachers, residential complexes, worship places ….You have destroyed the international rules of the game, insulted the authority of the UN, torn apart the sense of justice, and hurt human values, and tarnished the face of human civilization."

- Sarbini Abdul Murad, head of Medical Emergency Rescue Committee (MER-C) Indonesia, Director of Indonesia Gaza hospital, in a letter to Biden dated Nov 20, 2023

————

From older UK news report …..

Meanwhile, a doctor from north London, who is currently working in Gaza, claimed the Israeli IDF briefing was an "outlandish excuse" to target hospitals.
Dr Ghassan Abu-Sittah said: "At the end of the day, what they need to be reminded of, continuously, by everybody, and press included, is that the targeting of any hospital is a war crime, regardless of what outlandish excuses they might provide."

Asked if it was possible to evacuate a hospital like Shifa, he said: "How do you evacuate 1,700 critically injured patients? 150 ventilated patients?

"How do you evacuate over 100 patients with burns over 40% of their body surface area? And where do you evacuate them? And why should you?

"International humanitarian law was created to protect hospitals, protect them against this attack and this idea that if you tell people that you're going to commit a war crime against them, somehow it becomes less of a war crime. It is a war crime."

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
23. I am outraged.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 07:56 PM
Jun 19

Outraged that there is more senseless killing, more wounding of hearts of those who cannot stand to see it. The horror inflicted on the dying, the wounded and the families. More dispossession and despair.

If I had seen evidence that the last 20 months produced outrage and sorrow from those defending the killings, I would perhaps have more outrage left to spare. But now I have to divide it among the 24 Israeli dead and the 53,000+ Palestinian ones and now hundreds of Iranians too.

Meanwhile Israel killed 92 Palestinians today. 144 yesterday.

Including 16 starving people killed by tank shelling once again.

There is only so much outrage and sorrow a person can take or process.

sarisataka

(21,851 posts)
30. It is ironic that the four women mentioned above
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:11 PM
Jun 19

Were also Palestinians. But they were Israeli Palestinians so they get nearly zero notice

AloeVera

(3,435 posts)
33. Oh please.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:27 PM
Jun 19

They are getting lots of notice. As every human being deserves.

Unlike the tens of thousands of faceless, nameless dead Palestinians.

Why are so many victims in Israel the Palestinian Citizens of Israel?

Because they don't have the safe rooms and shelters that Jewish Israelis have. Their lives not worth as much to the Jewish state obviously.

stillcool

(34,386 posts)
26. Iran, Palestine
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 08:18 PM
Jun 19

same/same. The only human life that matters is their own. Land? Different matter.

bdamomma

(68,901 posts)
31. Fuck this
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:15 PM
Jun 19

killer, ICC should get involved with this killer. Go after him for war crimes against humanity. The felon and Putin should be gathered up too.

Ping Tung

(3,152 posts)
34. Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 09:29 PM
Jun 19
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.

George Orwell

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
36. I have no use for Israel, but I have no use for Iran, either.
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:10 PM
Jun 19

If they devastate each other, that would be fine with me---
as long as WE stay the hell OUT of it!

iemanja

(56,336 posts)
39. A lot of innocent people will die in the process
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:20 PM
Jun 19

Our problems with Israel and Iran have to do with their leadership, not their populations.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
42. Please point what war has not resulted in civilian casualties?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:29 PM
Jun 19

There's not a war fought in history that civilians haven't lost their lives, and while it's a tragedy, it's a matter of fact.

iemanja

(56,336 posts)
44. None
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:59 PM
Jun 19

Which makes war all the more reprehensible, particularly when negotiation was a viable option.

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
43. Yes, that is unfortunate, and I don't truly wish for innocent victims---
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:33 PM
Jun 19

but their bad leaders are gonna do what they are gonna do.

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