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In It to Win It

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Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:02 PM Thursday

NEW: Ninth Circuit says Trump "likely... lawfully exercised his statutory authority" federalizing CA National Guard

Joshua J. Friedman
‪@joshuajfriedman.com‬

NEW: The Ninth Circuit reverses Judge Breyer's order, finding that President Trump "likely ... lawfully exercised his statutory authority" when he federalized the California National Guard. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca9.4e2731d4-cbd8-4803-a59f-a1d0c6023daf/gov.uscourts.ca9.4e2731d4-cbd8-4803-a59f-a1d0c6023daf.32.0.pdf

The order is per curiam, meaning it is unsigned and comes from the full three-judge panel.

The court spends 14 of 38 pages rejecting the govt's argument that Trump's decision to federalize the California National Guard can't be reviewed by the courts.

The court concludes that the statute's requirement that "orders ... shall be issued through the governors of the States" doesn't mean that a governor must consent or even be consulted before their state's National Guard is federalized.


NEW: The Ninth Circuit reverses Judge Breyer's order, finding that President Trump "likely ... lawfully exercised his statutory authority" when he federalized the California National Guard. storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

Joshua J. Friedman (@joshuajfriedman.com) 2025-06-20T02:38:55.511Z

BREAKING: Ninth Circuit panel allows Trump's order activating the National Guard to remain in effect during California's challenge to that order.

The panel, after arguments, held that Trump's action activating the Guard was likely lawful under a "highly deferential" standard of review.

Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-06-20T02:48:59.168Z

The unsigned, per curiam order was unanimous from the panel, which included Judges Mark J. Bennett and Eric D. Miller, both Trump appointees, and Judge Jennifer Sung, a Biden appointee.

Order: storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.us...

Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner.bsky.social) 2025-06-20T02:51:43.469Z
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NEW: Ninth Circuit says Trump "likely... lawfully exercised his statutory authority" federalizing CA National Guard (Original Post) In It to Win It Thursday OP
so much for courts protecting us from the Gestapo lapfog_1 Thursday #1
There's not much hope with this SCOTUS anyway newdeal2 Thursday #3
That's depressing as shit. nt Phoenix61 Thursday #2
Indeed. Fuck! LymphocyteLover Friday #17
Rotten bastards! SheltieLover Thursday #4
So is that it? Judge Breyers order is wiped Iwasthere Thursday #5
It's a stay until the next appeal Fiendish Thingy Friday #21
But trump is going to attack Figarosmom Friday #24
So can it be appealed to the full En Banc 9th circuit? Fiendish Thingy Thursday #6
Appeal rso Thursday #7
It's possible an en banc panel could be a majority of Trump appointees In It to Win It Thursday #8
En Banc is the entire court dsc Thursday #12
Not in the 9th circuit. 9th Circuit does en banc hearings with 11 judges. In It to Win It Thursday #15
Technically possible Fiendish Thingy Friday #20
Unlikely, sure but more likely than we would like. Biden's appointments didn't shift the balance of the 9th Circuit In It to Win It Friday #23
What is En Banc? Amaryllis Thursday #10
The entire active court dsc Thursday #13
When a case is reheard by all appeals court judges in a circuit In It to Win It Thursday #14
This ruling was written by a three judge panel Fiendish Thingy Friday #16
The 9th Circuit's en banc hearings consist of 11 judges In It to Win It Friday #19
Better than three. Nt Fiendish Thingy Friday #22
Hard to accept but I think this is what America has become - this is who we are walkingman Thursday #9
...and the coup goes on.. spanone Thursday #11
two trump nominees... of course LymphocyteLover Friday #18

newdeal2

(3,016 posts)
3. There's not much hope with this SCOTUS anyway
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:18 PM
Thursday

Sorry but the picture is pretty grim overall. 2026 is our next shot unless Republicans grow a pair.

Iwasthere

(3,380 posts)
5. So is that it? Judge Breyers order is wiped
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:26 PM
Thursday

Are we done now? I personally believe so. WE ARE FUCKED! Panama looks good. They take great care of the elderly there. Easy retirement. Now to sell the house.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,676 posts)
6. So can it be appealed to the full En Banc 9th circuit?
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:27 PM
Thursday

The 9th is the most liberal circuit in the country, despite having the misfortune to draw two Trump appointees.

In It to Win It

(10,771 posts)
8. It's possible an en banc panel could be a majority of Trump appointees
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:33 PM
Thursday

Or Republican appointees. Trump appointed 10 judges to the 9th Circuit.

It’s happened before.

Fiendish Thingy

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20. Technically possible
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:06 AM
Friday

But mathematically improbable, since Biden appointed 8 during his term, in addition to the others appointed by Dem presidents.

In It to Win It

(10,771 posts)
23. Unlikely, sure but more likely than we would like. Biden's appointments didn't shift the balance of the 9th Circuit
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 01:06 AM
Friday

Trump’s appointments did shift the balance. To my knowledge, Trump replaced four Democratic appointees. Biden didn’t replace any Republican appointees. Biden just replaced old Democratic appointees with new Democratic appointees.

I remember doing the math some years ago in which about 1/3 of en banc cases in the 9th circuit at the time had panels with a majority of GOP appointees, which makes sense because Trump did appoint about 1/3 of the active judges. Sure, having a majority 2/3 of the time is good, but 1/3 is a bigger slice than I care to give Trump.

Right now, the 9th Circuit has 16 en banc cases with assigned judges. As best as I could tell, 5 have GOP majorities so it just about follows the same trend… and an additional 3 cases have 5 GOP appointees out of 11, which is too close for comfort when it comes to Trump IMO.

In It to Win It

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14. When a case is reheard by all appeals court judges in a circuit
Thu Jun 19, 2025, 11:53 PM
Thursday

However, the 9th Circuit has 29 active judges so they all don’t sit for en banc hearings. Instead, 11 active judges (the chief judge plus 10 other active judges) rehears a case in an en banc appeal.

A party can request an en banc rehearing of a case after a 3-judge panel has made their decision.

Fiendish Thingy

(19,676 posts)
16. This ruling was written by a three judge panel
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:00 AM
Friday

The 9th circuit court of appeals has a total of 29 judges; an En Banc hearing would be a review by the entire court, not just a three judge panel.

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