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kentuck

(114,067 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 08:56 AM Friday

If the Courts give Trump full authority to use the military to assist in rounding up migrants...

He has effectively gained control of the military and his "coup" is complete, in my opinion.

He will use them to crack down on our citizens, especially Democrats.

His lawyers are telling the Courts that they have no authority to order him to do anything if they are in the lower courts, or even the appeals court. The only Court they "might" listen to is the Supreme Court. And they will not listen to the Supreme Court if they do not rule the way they want.

That seems to me to be where we are today?

Because if they are permitted to have the military in one state, they are permitted to have them in all the states.

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Johnny2X2X

(22,966 posts)
2. Been saying this from the start
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 09:00 AM
Friday

ICE is already targeted people who are not immigrants, that will be their primary purpose at some point, to detain and arrest Democrats.

If we don't stand up to ICE now, you and your loved ones will live under the threat of being sent to a foreign concentration camp in Libya, Rwanda, El Salvador, or any other hellhole.

brush

(60,322 posts)
3. Did the trump admn do judge shopping for a favorable judge because...
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 09:21 AM
Friday

it sure seems that some judges are facilitating his installation of fascis/Gestopo tactics.

And I'm certainly not sure or appealing to SCOTUS as six of thosse jurists ruled that he has immunity for 'official acts', which means to me he can commit crimes with impunity.

moniss

(7,548 posts)
4. The eventual argument will also be that he his
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 10:13 AM
Friday

immunity covers contempt of court also. So the SC effectively neutered itself. They may very likely keep this in place all the while Crumb The 1st is in office and then "magically" decide to restrict immunity once he's leaving. That leaving may be for a long time. I look for them to create a situation for themselves where they declare things are too messed up to hold an election. He will just declare it, the SC may rule against him and he will ignore it. I can easily see a much more expansive deployment of the military in the states. We are after all only 6 months in.

kentuck

(114,067 posts)
8. I agree. They will not feel obligated to obey the Supreme Court.
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 11:38 AM
Friday

Obviously the Courts do not see the danger if giving this authority to such a authoritarian figure. I had hoped for more from our Courts.

Wanderlust988

(656 posts)
7. Trump is the Commander in Chief, he can do anything he wants pretty much.
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 11:36 AM
Friday

Even if he couldn't use the national guard, he could use active military as he's already doing.

As far as I know, the military is just protecting the federal buildings. I have heard they have detained a few people and just handed them over to the police.

Dan

(4,743 posts)
9. Well, well, well
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 11:38 AM
Friday

Seems like it’s coming down to whether you want to live and die in a prison in a foreign country, or whether you want to live and die in America.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,434 posts)
13. Have been out. Saying we need 10-15million people at a time out on the streets - not over time.
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 11:05 PM
Friday

kentuck

(114,067 posts)
12. He will test the limits of their ruling.
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 12:18 PM
Friday

He may try to arrest a "big name" Democrat?

I suppose it has crossed the mind of Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Governor Walz, Kamala Harris, and a few others?

It is like giving matches to a pyromaniac.

rampartd

(1,959 posts)
14. they want to "liberate california from its 'socialist" govt"
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 08:44 AM
Saturday

at some point trump is going full pol pot

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