James Clyburn endorses sex pest Andrew Cuomo

[Arazi]

I mean, WTF?! He even praises his “character”?

(And people wonder why David Hogg has traction for his ideas on primarying some safe seat Dems…)

That Clyburn thinks Andrew Cuomo is part of the future of the Democratic Party - and points to his character!!! — is the problem with the current Democratic Party leadership in a nutshell.
www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/n...

— Amanda Litman (@amandalitman.bsky.social) 2025-06-20T12:34:39.145Z

[RockRaven]

1. If Democrats could stop acting like they want to lose every election, that would be great

[Tribetime]

2. This is what David Hogg was talking about

[JI7]

25. Cuomo would have beat Trump in the GE. Getting rid of Cuomo and Franken

hurt us with male voters.

[skylucy]

57. Some of us female voters were also not happy with getting rid of Cuomo and Franken.

[hamsterjill]

58. +1000

Like I've said many times on here - during COVID, Andrew Cuomo looked awfully good when you're in a state with Greg Abbott as the governor.

[Callie1979]

60. I doubt Cuomo could've beaten Trump. Too much Covid baggage.

Among other things

[JI7]

67. People don't vote on issues . The fact you say he couldn't win becsuse of Covid baggage

against Trump shows this. Nobody has more covid baggage than Trump.

[Callie1979]

69. Harris had NONE. Cuomo simply isnt a national candidate.

His nursing home disaster will follow him probably more than his harassment issues.
But NYC is a different bird

[TacosUberAlles]

73. How?

I'm trying to figure out here how you came to that conclusion & I can't.
I see it as quite the opposite. Cuomo would've gotten his clock cleaned bad. Like really bad. Why? Because we Democrats have standards & values. 2 sex pests going at it would've had millions of voters on our side staying home. Cuomo would have absolutely tanked outside of NY. It's also important to remember that Der Cheeto is popular among his base to the point it's a literal cult.

[JustAnotherGen]

3. Black Americans are pragmatic

We are not lofty, aspirational and don't look for pie in the sky ideals.

David Hogg will end up the same as Sanders . . . never getting a majority of Black voters to support his candidates.

Everyone is fallible, no one is perfect and can we be honest here? Here at DU?

Why trust one white male politico over another? None if them are any good and will always throw us away.

Me? Game recognizes game. Who can match Trumps energy?

That's why Im fearful that Sherrill is going to lose in NJ. She's not dark enough (spiritually) or cynical enough to move Black voters to the polls.

Cuomo is a cynic - that's world in his favor.

[JustAnotherGen]

23. Your welcome

All I can do is offer my perspective and lived experience, then let the chips lie where they may.

[flamingdem]

5. Tell me more

Biden wasn't those things. (Except dark biden lol).

I have a friend doing some work on Sherrill's campaign. Curious to know your perspective.

Friend is a little preppy ish but does have a dark sense of humor.

What could Sherrill do to appeal?

[Arazi]

6. A Democrat is going to win the New York mayor's race

There’s literally zero “pragmatism” in voting for a serial sexual harasser. Dems look feckless and utterly tone deaf when we’re such hypocrites.

Sorry there’s just not any reason for this. There’s very viable alternatives in Brad Lander or even Zohran Mamdani (or pick another Dem in the race). At least Mamdani condemns Israel - that appears to have been a huge litmus test just a few months ago

[RandySF]

8. NYC has voted for Republicans in the past.

And I think Adams would beat Mamdani in the general.

[Arazi]

11. And we wonder why Democratic approval is in the 7th circle of hell

Yay misogyny, the “future of the Democratic Party”. I mean ffs, his CHARACTER??!!



Democrats needs to figure out some new leadership and fast. The DNC could unite behind, and fund, someone other than Cuomo. Recycling misogynistic POS candidates leads us to President Vance in 2028

[RandySF]

13. I'd vote for Adrienne Adams/Labder if I lived there

But Mamdani would crater in November.

[Jose Garcia]

19. The issue is stopping a pro 'globalize the intifada' Democrat from being elected to a high-profile position

[bottomofthehill]

77. Great litmus test, it gave us President Trump

[jrthin]

9. You have hit nail directly on head.

[Skittles]

14. I am curious

why equate Hogg with Sanders

[JustAnotherGen]

22. He's the natural

Successor to him.

[JI7]

29. I think Hogg is mostly a grifter

based on the money raised and donated by his group in the last election.

[uponit7771]

41. donated doesn't sound like grifting

[JI7]

48. The amount that was donated makes it seem like a grift

[JustAnotherGen]

75. I'm going to

Zip lips on this one.

[Skittles]

39. I honestly do not see him that way

note: I absolutely cannot stand BS

[JustAnotherGen]

74. I'm not a fan of the Indie Senator either

But the language of "rigged" was started by Sanders in the 2016 Primary.

Hogg is refining the language. Both make strong arguments for white men being catered to and molly coddled by the Democratic Party.

I believe that the majority of white men cannot be won in my lifetime (I'm 52). My husband is a dual citizen (took oath in Nov 2020) . He was raised around former Italian fascists. My mom's dad can be seen in Pictures with Eisenhower at concentration camps post WW2. My dads maternal great grandfather (Scots Irish immigrant) was off the boat and conscripted into the CSA Army. Between 1890 and 1900 he was changed from white to Negro in the Census, because his half Cherokee daughter had the gall to marry a Black doctor.

Why were those 3 white men reachable?

They know how bad things can get.

I suspect neither Hogg nor Sanders know who Adriana Smith is.

My husband was teary-eyed when he learned of her death. That's the difference. He's written the State Government demanding they pay for her medical bills or he will personally sue on her behalf.

He means it. That was me. I'm real and I'm here.

[Skittles]

85. wow

impressive response, thank you

I was raised by a Depression era survivor and a WWII survivor, they too didn't just think bad things could happen, they KNEW they could.

I don't remember the BS 'rigged' talk but then, I tend to tune him out because I find his one-trick pony act very tiresome.

What happened to Ms. Smith was just plain inhumane - GOP 'pro-life" delusions completely disregarded her a a human being.

[Celerity]

42. The NYC ones 'pragmatic'd' their way to that corrupt Trump-hugging Eric Adams, now they will do the same with the

serial sexual harasser, real estate developer big-upper, conservative-judge-stacking, anti NY State Dem Senate control (in the 2010s, when Cuomo got a small group of conservadems to flip control of the NY State Senate to the Rethugs to block NYC liberals) Cuomo.

Colour me very unimpressed at times with some of my fellow black Americans so-called 'pragmatism'. Especially the fundie christian homophobic ones, many of them down South, but far far from limited to that area. Same for the misogynistic ones.

Were the 3 out of 10 black men under 45yo (and 25 per cent overall, all age groups for black men) who voted Trump in 2024 being 'pragmatic'?

https://apnews.com/article/young-black-latino-men-trump-economy-jobs-9184ca85b1651f06fd555ab2df7982b5

snip

Economy and jobs made men under age 45 more open to Trump

Voters overall cited the economy and jobs as the most important issue the country faced. That was true for Black and Hispanic voters as well.

About 3 in 10 Black men under age 45 went for Trump, roughly double the share he got in 2020. Young Latinos, particularly young Latino men, also were more open to Trump than in 2020. Roughly half of young Latino men voted for Harris, compared with about 6 in 10 who went for Biden.

all ages:

https://apnews.com/article/election-harris-trump-women-latinos-black-voters-0f3fbda3362f3dcfe41aa6b858f22d12

[Callie1979]

53. I'm glad you put it that way. "Who can match trump's energy?"

Men in general, not just black men, respond to what they see as the more "macho" guy. Trump talks a lot of shit & it works with some men (and women). Because he says it 1000 times. He pushes the "tough guy" image even though HE is spineless.
After that ridiculous fist pump picture from the assassination attempt I knew we were probably cooked.

[Skittles]

64. I have to say

if Trump in ANY way is seen as MACHO that is truly beyond pathetic - he's an absolute fucking COWARD

[Callie1979]

70. Yes, he is. But he TALKS like he's not. And he pushes that line. You've seen it.

Its constant. And putting the MAGA cult aside, there are people who pay little attention to politics but hear his bullshit. I mean, we had ONE THIRD of voters not vote at all; what were THEY thinking? So its easy to see how this shit gets thru to enough people to add to the OTHER issues people latched on to

[Skittles]

86. but he talks absolute gibberish

the mentality of the people who fall for his pathetic act is questionable too

[Self Esteem]

54. Cuomo is a corrupt rapist. There's nothing pragmatic about supporting him.

It's wild to me that this site spent the last year throwing around Trump's convictions and played up his sexual assault and now some will blindly turn an eye to Andrew Cuomo, who is a vile, ugly and shameful human being.

Pragmatism is a big reason we have such lousy politicians.

[JustAnotherGen]

72. Game Recognizes Game

We can be as disgusted as we want to be . . . but game recognizes game.

Part of Baraka's appeal to me last week was the fact that he had been arrested by the regime.

I also thought it was time NJ finally distinguished itself from The country - CSA- and elected a Black Governor. (We didn't ratify the 13th until January 1866).

Just enough Black voters made the pragmatic decision for game to match game. Sherrill for Whitman.

I watched majorities in every racial demographic in America with the exception of Black Americans vote for an unAmerican traitor raping thieving Russia loving racist last November.

Recalculating and Learning: That's okay with white, Latino/a, Asian and Muslim Americans.

What's the problem here?

[Self Esteem]

88. I'll never excuse sexual assault or rape.

I don't care who it is or what they believe. I really, truly hope you're not okay with it.

[Arazi]

89. Tish James investigation substantiated the charges

Including Cuomo’s illegal and vicious retaliation against one woman who reported him.

Repulsive behavior.

This thread has been eye-popping 😞

[JustAnotherGen]

96. Not for me

Parallels between who is accused of being pro-genocide and who is pragmatic. Same shit, different outrage.

This Trump Admin is different.

The 92% - including myself - are not coming to anyone's rescue... But ourselves.

I start from here:
This Regime does not end with a political solution.
After the Regime is toppled - that's when things get REALLY bad.

Anyone who denies us full humanity (5 Fifths), or whines about minority states (Wyoming) not having a seat at the table, needs to get the Malcolm X treatment from Us. This country can get back in our good graces by caving to these two demands.

I posit this - Cuomo is proving Black women right about AmeriKKKa- and that is a very uncomfortable truth.

WHY does our smirking make one uncomfortable?

[JustAnotherGen]

90. Not my farm

Not my animals.

Exactly what are you accusing me of? Being a rapist or something?

[Silent Type]

10. I respect Clyburn's opinion.

[choie]

40. Doesn't sway me at all.

And I doubt it will most others in NY State.

[CentralMass]

33. I used to. However helped deep six Bernies election chances and now tge Cuomo support

maker

[Silent Type]

35. In 2020? Sanders would have lost by 10 points, though we'd be through with trump.

[newdeal2]

15. NYC mayor is a thankless job

If I were a NYC voter, I would likely vote for someone who will be strong enough to fight Trump because Trump is coming after NYC like every other blue city. Under that lens, I could see Cuomo's appeal.

[SheltieLover]

28. Absolutely

I'm not a NYC voter either but the issue you rsised is paramount!

Gov Pritzker is another Dem with the fine quality you mentioned, although not a contender for NYC mayor. Lol. I could easily have missed it, but I've never seen the slob mouth off to JB!

And Walz.

[berniesandersmittens]

52. Pritzker 2028

Maybe Pritzker/AOC

I don't have a dog in the NY mayor's race cause I don't live there. But I agree wholeheartedly with you on Pritzker.

[jrthin]

37. I'm a NYC voter and I'm voting for Cuomo. I am practical and would hate to have

a Republican mayor at this time.

[aocommunalpunch]

16. Absolute fail.

I want to be surprised, but status quo is the enemy of progress. Bear witness.

[Renew Deal]

17. Did he just copy and paste the statement from Cuomo's last campaign?

Either this is astroturf or a serious misjudgment

[allegorical oracle]

18. Loved the "sex pest" reference. Perfect description. nt

[demmiblue]

20. Viewing women as second-class citizens is not exclusive to republicans, it would seem.

This is the opposite of supporting women.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

21. I'm a New Yorker.

I remember Andrew Cuomo being referred to as the real President during the pandemic when MAGAts were taking horse meds and shining lights up their asses, some standing idly by while others profited from selling the US supplies, while millions of Americans died. I also remember Moscow Mitch calling for New York to declare bankruptcy during this time, and Gov. Cuomo asking him who would pay MM's bills if NY declared bankruptcy. He stood up, for us.

Interesting that a man considered by many in the country to be a hero was then demonized and tossed aside. No one else finds that suspect? No one else remembers when Al Franken was one of the most effective Democratic senators and was railroaded into resigning because his own party couldn't recognize a blatant right wing hit job??

The MAGAts threw that shit right into our faces and laughed their asses off watching Democrats blindly dash off to self destruct yet again because of manufactured right wing MAGAt bullshit, and bullshit purity politics!

This knee jerk demonization of every effective Democrat is HIGHLY suspect to me.

And spare me the self-aggrandizing, condescending "...and Democrats wonder why...." crap.

[choie]

43. I'm a New York City-ite.

And I'll be damned if I vote for someone who is authoritarian and corrupt like Cuomo. These politicians who think they deserve another chance should just go away with their millions and never be heard from again. That includes Cuomo and Anthony Weiner. There are much better, more honorable Democrats on the ticket.

[Nixie]

76. AMEN! Thank you for this much needed dose of reality.

Cuomo is scrappy and experienced. That’s what we need more of — Not the cancel culture that the whole nation has turned against and mocked us for. The tough guy persona apparently is electable no matter the “baggage.”

[Wanderlust988]

24. Cuomo has SWAGGER and toughness about him that is appealing

He is better suited to take on Trump, unlike Bass in L.A. She is weak against him.

[JI7]

26. Bass is not weak. Cuomo can get away with being that way becsuse he is a white man

[Silent Type]

30. Sadly, I think "toughness" -- even if just optics -- is important dealing with trump. Think Bass did fine, though.

[choie]

44. Appealing to who?

[Self Esteem]

55. People who support sexual assaulters I guess.

[Brenda]

47. AOC's SWAGGER and mental toughness can

kick any male politicians facade in a minute.

So enough with the not so hidden statement that females aren't strong.

[Celerity]

50. Does being a serial sexual harasser add to his 'swagger' and 'toughness'?

Asking for a friend.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Cuomo

snip

Attorney General (a Democrat) James's five-month investigation concluded with the release of a report on August 3, 2021. This report concluded that during Cuomo's time in office, he sexually harassed 11 women: Boylan, Bennett, Ruch, Liss, Brittany Commisso, Kaitlin, McGrath, event attendee Virginia Limmiatis, an unnamed New York State trooper and two unnamed state entity employees. The investigation concluded that Cuomo's behaviour included unwanted groping, kissing and sexual comments, and also found that Cuomo's office had engaged in illegal retaliation against Boylan for her allegation against him.

[Nanjeanne]

27. Yup - the old boys club sticks together. No surprises. Just endless disappointment. Let's all get behind the sexual

predator, the man with the nursing home fiasco as his badge, the corruption of the Moreland Commission, his convicted right hand man, who resigned in disgrace. Yeah - that's why Democratic Party is in the shape it is.

[leftstreet]

31. +1

[demmiblue]

32. "I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and sexually harass/assault numerous women and I wouldn't lose voters." n/t

[milestogo]

34. "I can't imagine voting for anyone who I don't already know, even if he is a proven jerk."

Thanks, but no thanks. We can do better.

[choie]

45. +++1

[demmiblue]

91. And now Bill Clinton:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143483514

[Nanjeanne]

92. The New Democratic Party - embracing corruption and sexual abuse. Winning strategy.

[Arazi]

94. Feels a lot like the "old" establishment Democratic party

Can’t have those young fresh “inexperienced” voices doncha know (Bill Clinton was elected governor at 32 years old but gawd forbid we take chances on today’s young Dems…)

[Tribetime]

36. I used to have great respect for Clyburn, not so much now

[choie]

38. Good lord

[Brenda]

46. This OP is Fly Paper.

Everyone can easily see how people really are here at DU.

[fujiyamasan]

49. I don't always agree with Clyburn

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But this may be a smarter move than people are giving him credit for to stop Adams from being reelected.

There’s a chance of ranked choice voting knocking Cuomo out. Mamdani and Lander have “cross endorsed” each other for this purpose.

If either of them win, I think Adams has a decent chance of winning reelection by consolidating the black vote. I don’t see Mamdani or Lander doing that. Cuomo would be much more competitive in this regard.

Cuomo is an ass hole, but Mamdani is borderline antisemitic and is just a terrible fit for the city. I know most disagree but a democratic socialist mayor would be a godsend for republicans nationwide. I would expect an exodus of companies headquartered there. Lost jobs wouldn’t surprise me either. Either way, his proposals are all pie in the sky. There’s no practical way of paying for anything.

Sorry, I just don’t see understand why Israel is so fucking important for the fate of NYC. I don’t like what Israel is doing. It’s insane. But mayors aren’t elected to conduct foreign policy. Sad to say, but Cuomo seems like the only sane choice here.

[Emile]

51. The Democratic party needs new leadership.

[Skittles]

65. YES IT DOES

OMFG so many people seem to have learned NOTHING from the results of the last election

[madville]

56. Al Sharpton endorsed Coumo too

The Black vote is solidly in Coumo’s corner, he’s got this primary wrapped up with that kind of support

[Nanjeanne]

61. Were they? I didn't know that.

I know about AOC and Sanders endorsing. And Michael Blake and Brad Lander co endorsing. And Move On’s.

But I hadn’t read that he was soliciting Clyburn’s.

[Nanjeanne]

63. I don't know why not. You stated it as a fact that they were panicking because they didn't get it. I assumed

you had first hand knowledge or had a quite from the campaign staying it. Some kind of actual knowledge. If you stated it as your opinion, well that’s different.

[madville]

66. It's basically over at this point

They still need to have a primary of course but the writing is on the wall.

[Takket]

71. Unconscionably bad endorsement for NYC and for a party that is trying to right the ship for 2026

[tulipsandroses]

78. Very disappointed in Clyburn and other Dems that endorsed Cuomo

Big mistake.

[SSJVegeta]

79. Not gonna work this time

[Rob H.]

80. People need to remember Clyburn endorsed Cuellar, too,

who was the target of an active FBI investigation and will soon likely be headed to prison.

[Celerity]

82. as did Pelosi. Pelosi also big-footed AOC in favour of a clearly dying Gerry Connolly. The old guard is making too many

poor and problematic choices lately. Very disheartening.

[Polybius]

81. Well, here's the thing

The only two candidates that have a chance of winning the primary are Cuomo and Zohran, and he can't endorse the latter. The rest are all polling in single digits.

[Celerity]

83. with ranked choice, there is a shot that Cuomo could be knocked out before the final round. Not a great chance, but

a chance nonetheless.

[Polybius]

84. Yes, but I can't see anyone winning the primary other than Cuomo or Zohran

Those are the only two (imo) with a realistic chance of winning.

[H2O Man]

87. Recommended.

A car pulls over to the side of the road, with a bit of steam coming from under the hood. Andrew is a re-tread tire in the cart's trunk. But that is not what is needed at this time.

[TacosUberAlles]

93. LOL

I'm sorry but all I can do at this point is laugh.
Anyone else seen the film "Idiocricy" because that wasn't supposed to be a documentary.