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senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 02:16 PM Jun 20

It's nice to see an elite writer from the Atlantic admit he was wrong about protests!

Tom Nichols just posted: I am very, very happy to be wrong, I'm glad especially to see independents split on this. I was pretty sure the protests would create a more even split, but Trump being down 15 points on this one issue tells me I was too worried.

Harry Enton commented on CNN "I think we can say Donald Trump has lost the political battle when it comes to what has happened in Los Angeles. Trump's net approval rating on LA- way, way underwater at -15 points....this is happening on what should be on Donald Trump's best issue...he's losing his core issue."

The No Kings protests are twenty times as big as the Tea Party protests were. They should be receiving 20 times the coverage. They're not. But at least the public is responding and that's good news!

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It's nice to see an elite writer from the Atlantic admit he was wrong about protests! (Original Post) senseandsensibility Jun 20 OP
This is good but not quite enough to make me think... ananda Jun 20 #1
Just between you and me senseandsensibility Jun 20 #3
Yes, that really is a good thing. ananda Jun 20 #5
OMG "Harshing my mellow" is a call back my hubby senseandsensibility Jun 20 #7
"Bummin' My High" DENVERPOPS Jun 20 #14
You ProudToronto Jun 20 #15
I just discovered that soldierant Jun 20 #16
Then can you toast them?? vanlassie Jun 20 #21
Maybe on a toothpick? soldierant Jun 20 #22
Ha! I was picturing using my torch to vanlassie Jun 20 #24
You could try, soldierant Jun 21 #32
Maybe merangues? intrepidity Jun 21 #29
They are airy inside the crisp, but they do taste like marshmallows. soldierant Jun 21 #33
Very much encouraged. We are hardly alone in how we are feeling and there is no doubting that after the Amaryllis Jun 20 #6
Glad to hear it senseandsensibility Jun 20 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author drmeow Jun 20 #2
Makes me mad every time someone claims the Tea Party was grassroots! betsuni Jun 20 #9
Ridiculous is right senseandsensibility Jun 20 #12
The RepubliCONs started taking over DENVERPOPS Jun 20 #19
In a way soldierant Jun 20 #17
Bingo! benfranklin1776 Jun 20 #23
MSNBC, like them or not, radical noodle Jun 21 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author drmeow Jun 21 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author radical noodle Jun 21 #30
Please show me anywhere in my OP where I claimed there was senseandsensibility Jun 21 #31
What are you talking about? drmeow Jun 21 #34
You said you were responding to the OP. senseandsensibility Jun 21 #35
I did not go back and drmeow Jun 21 #36
I'm not deleting anything because there's nothing wrong with what I wrote senseandsensibility Jun 21 #37
And S-L-O-W-L-Y America wakes up. calimary Jun 20 #4
I remember whenever 5 tea partiers or less stood somewhere protesting rainy Jun 20 #10
Many years ago ,a raging liberal with only 12 followers made quite a world of difference. BattleRow Jun 20 #18
We are fortunate ( I know) Keepthesoulalive Jun 20 #11
Tiny little baby hams BaronChocula Jun 21 #25
We have many problems of various sorts. mtairyguy Jun 20 #13
Why is Tom Nichols an "elite" writer? betsuni Jun 20 #20
Let me guess. Several pages to say what the rest of us can do in 1-10 sentence. Tetrachloride Jun 21 #27

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
3. Just between you and me
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 02:41 PM
Jun 20

I posted this because I needed a positivity boost and I thought others might too. I was feeling overwhelmed and angry (the angry part is justified and I see it as warranted) but the overwhelmed is not constructive. I hope others feel a little encouraged when they see the effects that the protests had!

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
7. OMG "Harshing my mellow" is a call back my hubby
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:01 PM
Jun 20

and I use with each other when one or the other is doing something mildly irritating. I find it an amusing term, but he, at true child of the 70's and the rock culture, claimed to have never heard it before I used it. Now it's our little hint to each other that we may want to tone it down a little.

DENVERPOPS

(12,987 posts)
14. "Bummin' My High"
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jun 20

You should hear some of the things that street addicts say to us when we would use Narcan on them and pull them back from an O.D. .....LOL
They are suddenly very aware of the fact that we wasted their last dime bag's high.....Before injecting the Narcan, we would put a FF or EMT on each of their legs and arms because they are VERY angry with you......and come up swinging.......

soldierant

(8,728 posts)
16. I just discovered that
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 04:45 PM
Jun 20

tiny bits of marshmallows (smaller than chocolate chips but larger than nonpareils) to garnish cakes and maybe ice cream are a thing.

soldierant

(8,728 posts)
22. Maybe on a toothpick?
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 08:42 PM
Jun 20

They are actually kind of crisp, so they may have been "toasted" in a way that doesn't show a color change.

vanlassie

(6,032 posts)
24. Ha! I was picturing using my torch to
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jun 20

Toast a sprinkling of them on a cake, then maybe sprinkling chopped chocolate over it.

soldierant

(8,728 posts)
32. You could try,
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 05:58 PM
Jun 21

but it might make them too hard. You could easily s[rinkle them straight from the container and chocolate sprinkles to that. Doon't decide until yu actually see them.

Amaryllis

(10,564 posts)
6. Very much encouraged. We are hardly alone in how we are feeling and there is no doubting that after the
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jun 20

protests.

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

betsuni

(28,108 posts)
9. Makes me mad every time someone claims the Tea Party was grassroots!
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:27 PM
Jun 20

News covered "protests" of a few busloads of old people with brand new Tea Party T-shirts and brand new manufactured signs to stand around for the cameras for awhile before getting back on the buses. Ridiculous.

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
12. Ridiculous is right
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:51 PM
Jun 20

and so is dangerous. The corporate media has been in the RW pocket for decades now.

DENVERPOPS

(12,987 posts)
19. The RepubliCONs started taking over
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 05:13 PM
Jun 20

the U.S. Media 45+ years ago.......It is almost entirely owned/operated by Uber Rich Republicans at this point.....

One of Hitlers first moves was taking control of all the German media.

I am just waiting for the ENTIRE Republican owned/operated Media to get kicked to the curb and outlawed when Trump no longer needs them, and declares FOX news the only government authorized STATE OWNED MEDIA, like Pravda in Russia......

He has made his entire life about Using, Abusing, and kicking those who helped him, and worshipped him to the curb.......

Since the election, he hasp already begun trashing on his own voters......now that he not longer needs them ever again........

He will do it to the Media

And the best of all will be when he shit cans the U.S. House representatives, the U.S. Senators, and the USSC justices......due to the fact
that there is NO Legislative or Judicial Branch needed in a Tyranny/Dictatorship.....LOL

soldierant

(8,728 posts)
17. In a way
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 04:52 PM
Jun 20

it was grassroots - but basically only in that it showed how small and specialized its lawn was. I mean, those people did exist - I knew one or two - but even in a very red county like mine they were not that large a force.

I remember "Coffee Party" was started in opposition to is, but doesn't appear to have lasted. Now that all the MAGAts have their knickers in knots about "woke" might be a good time to bring it back or start it over.

benfranklin1776

(6,937 posts)
23. Bingo!
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 10:14 PM
Jun 20

You nailed it! The staged and corporate funded tea party rabid ragefests were created by, funded by, and artificially hyped by the corporate media’s owners like the Koch brothers et al, to push their preferred narrative that interfering with the lethal industry of extorting money from and then denying health care to working people was “socialism,” but had little grass roots support among those suffering under that system as a result. Here the precise opposite is occurring where our genuine and rapidly growing grass roots movement reflects the true sentiment of We The People which is at odds with the overt fascist objectives of the current media ownership class like Bezos, et al. Thus the media tries its hardest to ignore it, minimize it or scare people with agitprop of phantom hordes of looters 🙀Except We The People on the ground in our communities know the truth because we live it, whereas establishment stenographers like Nichols who parrot the “conventional wisdom” which, frankly, is shorthand for manufactured corporate narrative, only grudgingly are forced to acknowledge the incontrovertible reality they’ve been conditioned to denigrate because it’s become too powerful to ignore. ✊🏼💪🏼✊🏼

radical noodle

(10,289 posts)
26. MSNBC, like them or not,
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:32 AM
Jun 21

had nearly constant coverage of the No Kings Protest when they weren't talking about the assassination in MN. Even during trump's crappy birthday parade, IF they showed it, it was often a split screen showing protests on one side and the parade on the other. They made a point to show the nearly empty bleachers at the parade and compared the crowd there with the crowds at the protests.

Every Monday night following protests, on Rachel's show, she makes a point to show snippets of the protests with photos and videos from all over the country... even in smaller cities and towns, and red ones.

I worry that we will lose this one station that is normally pretty supportive if we don't watch it more. The powers that be worry about viewership and $$$$ and if we're not watching, they're going to put out something else.

Response to radical noodle (Reply #26)

Response to drmeow (Reply #28)

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
31. Please show me anywhere in my OP where I claimed there was
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 05:55 PM
Jun 21

no coverage on MSNBC or anywhere else. What a bizarre statement. I very clearly said there was not twenty times the coverage of the tea party movement in spite of the fact that the protests were twenty times as big. I don't usually respond to straw man arguments, but wow.

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
35. You said you were responding to the OP.
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 07:15 PM
Jun 21

I am the OP. You said you were responding to the OP's question. I asked no question in my OP.

drmeow

(5,687 posts)
36. I did not go back and
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:04 PM
Jun 21

read your entire OP when I responded. I had not memorized so I didn't realize you had not asked a question. My bad. I think you kinda overreacted.

You know what, I'm going to delete all the other responses I've put in this thread. Then I suggest that we both mutually put each other on ignore. Because, frankly, I don't need this shit right now.

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
37. I'm not deleting anything because there's nothing wrong with what I wrote
Sat Jun 21, 2025, 10:07 PM
Jun 21

I also don't believe in putting people on ignore but you do you.

rainy

(6,293 posts)
10. I remember whenever 5 tea partiers or less stood somewhere protesting
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:37 PM
Jun 20

it was covered incessantly!!!!

BattleRow

(1,731 posts)
18. Many years ago ,a raging liberal with only 12 followers made quite a world of difference.
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 04:59 PM
Jun 20

Keepthesoulalive

(1,514 posts)
11. We are fortunate ( I know)
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:39 PM
Jun 20

He is such a ham handed idiot, if he had a functioning brain imagine the damage he could do under the table like Dick Cheney.

mtairyguy

(14 posts)
13. We have many problems of various sorts.
Fri Jun 20, 2025, 03:54 PM
Jun 20

It never ceases to amaze me that the reporting on those problems have the connective tissue of sentences like, ‘they should be receiving 20 times the coverage’.

I don’t think democratic messaging is the problem as much as narrative control by a complicit media.

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