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The proposal, laid out in the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committees draft portion of the bill, would force the U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management, over the next five years, to identify and sell between 2.2 million and 3.3 million acres across 11 Western states for the development of housing or to address associated infrastructure to support local housing needs. In total, 250 million acres of land would be eligible for those mandatory sales including campgrounds and other recreation sites, roadless areas, and important wildlife habitat. The bill excludes protected areas like national parks and designated national recreation areas.
In a statement, Senator Patty Murray, a Democrat from Washington state, called the proposal a complete betrayal of future generations. Conservation groups have likewise pilloried it as a shameless ploy to sell off pristine public lands for trophy homes and gated communities in order to pay for tax cuts for the ultra-wealthy.
The proposal expands on a failed attempt in the House version of the spending bill to sell 500,000 acres of federal lands in Nevada and Utah. That proposal was nixed due to opposition from Representative Ryan Zinke, a Republican from Montana and the former interior secretary. The new, dramatically expanded proposal came from Utah Senator Mike Lee, a Republican, who said in a YouTube video that federal land ownership is not fair.
Were opening underused federal land to expand housing, support local development, and get Washington, D.C. out of the way of communities that are just trying to grow, he said. Were turning federal liabilities into taxpayer value. The states wherein the land sales are being proposed are Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington, and Wyoming. Zinkes state of Montana is notably not on the list.
https://www.alternet.org/public-lands-gop/

peggysue2
(11,953 posts)Not only does he love these areas but this is what he does for a living as a wilderness guide. He's trekked all over Utah and Nevada. I wouldn't be surprised if he moves out there at some point. In fact, he's in Salt Lake City right now waiting for a flight home.
All of these national forests and parks are a national treasure and belong to the public, not a bunch of 'pave-the-world-in- concrete' developers and certainly NOT Donald Trump.
electricmonk
(1,944 posts)that lives part of the year on BLM and National Forest land if this proposal makes it through it will make my life and the thousands of others living this life more difficult. It will reduce the available places to set up at and add pressure to the ones that are available. I know that the powers that be don't care and would honestly like us all to be eliminated but there are also a fair amount of rich people out there boondocking. Sad thing is I know a lot of other nomads voted for the orange shit-gibbon because they've bought the lie that the Republicans are the small government/freedom party.
Out of curiosity I looked at the population within 50 kilometers of the Buffalo Hills Wilderness Study Area is 219 people, for the Okanogan-Wenatchee National Forest it's 22,651 which includes Leavenworth, for the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest it's 8410. I'm sure a lot of the other placers they plan on selling isn't much higher and hardly seem to be in a large enough housing crunch that they need thousands and thousands of acres of fresh land to bulldoze. It's 100% planned for rich mega mansions on huge tracts of land or resource extraction. None of it is for the benefit of the common person.
The tool I used to find the populations. I used the center of the places listed but they cover a lot of land and I'm sure moving the start point would change the output a bit one way or the other but not enough to change my point that it's not needed for housing.
https://www.freemaptools.com/find-population.htm