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no_hypocrisy

(51,949 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:08 AM Sunday

From this point forward, it's a waste of time for WH correspondents

to ask TSF for information and his views on any particular matter.

Because he lied/lies.

Can't be more blatant. He said he needed two weeks to see if Iran would be ready to negotiate. And 48 hours (or so) later, he bombed that country.

It's obvious that he has no credibility.

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From this point forward, it's a waste of time for WH correspondents (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Sunday OP
"Ha ha. Suckers. Ha ha." - G.O.P. Felon-in-Chief BoRaGard Sunday #1
All of Maga and Republicans will be saying that Walleye Sunday #3
He sent some B-2 Bombers to Guam as misdirection. The strike bomber mission originated from the states. John1956PA Sunday #2
Trumpers will just say that was brilliant. Funtatlaguy Sunday #4
Well, 'he' did not come up with that. OldBaldy1701E Sunday #5
I doubt they were fooled. paleotn Sunday #13
Even worse, he didn't consult Congress - except telling a few Republicans Rhiannon12866 Sunday #6
It's always been a waste of time, and journalists making a big deal about being in that room is idiotic. Scrivener7 Sunday #7
when did he ever have any credibility??? LymphocyteLover Sunday #8
what ? Kali999 Sunday #9
He was pissed off at being called TACO and thought "I'll show them!" Katinfl Sunday #10
So now we are in a war with Iran Farmer-Rick Sunday #11
Look at the timeline Puppyjive Sunday #12
I've thought most WH correspondents were a waste of time SocialDemocrat61 Sunday #14
they've culled the journalists barbtries Sunday #15
This! Joinfortmill Sunday #17
Impeach the rapist. Joinfortmill Sunday #16
TACO wasn't going to let the war criminal Bibi bomb them first and get the headlines. NoMoreRepugs Sunday #18
Capabilities Nuttyyahoo didn't have. paleotn Sunday #23
Waste of time for everyone. paleotn Sunday #19
Disinformation. Why do we do we do this on DU? speak easy Sunday #20
Supposedly to give negotiations a chance. He didn't give them a chance. paleotn Sunday #24
Years ago I was told that ultimately all reading should be "close reading." Igel Sunday #28
Years ago, I was told that being unnecessarily condescending paleotn Sunday #30
This ploy has been done before Marthe48 Sunday #21
All he does is lie. Anyone not admitting to that is also a liar or is in the cult as well. Scalded Nun Sunday #22
It's okay. Tommy Carcetti Sunday #25
Will Israel reimburse the U.S. for the bombings? quaint Sunday #26
Yup, he's a big fat orange faced liar!!!! a kennedy Sunday #27
It always was. The media just believes him for some reason. Oneironaut Sunday #29

John1956PA

(4,207 posts)
2. He sent some B-2 Bombers to Guam as misdirection. The strike bomber mission originated from the states.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:20 AM
Sunday

He lies and deceives constantly.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,139 posts)
5. Well, 'he' did not come up with that.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:32 AM
Sunday

That would indicate a level of intelligence heretofore not seen in that person.

paleotn

(20,517 posts)
13. I doubt they were fooled.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:50 AM
Sunday

Iranians know US capabilities as well as anyone. The Air Force could just as easily strike from the west, from bases inside the US. If that was an attempt at subterfuge, it's pretty weak for a number of reasons.

On the other hand, saying you're giving them 2 weeks and then just bombing the shit out of them 48 hours later is a different story. That's being a lying asshole. And the worst thing about that is we can't be trusted anymore. The diplomatic option now and in future situations is shot to hell. No one will believe us, so the only option left is force. By being a fucking cowboy, Donnie just made us less safe. Good job, dumbass.

Scrivener7

(56,110 posts)
7. It's always been a waste of time, and journalists making a big deal about being in that room is idiotic.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 07:48 AM
Sunday

They allow him to use that access as a cudgel when there is no news value to a seat in that room.

It would be better if they all thumbed their noses at the WH press events, if the events were announced to a room empty of legitimate news sources, and the real reporters used that time to get the real story.

Katinfl

(383 posts)
10. He was pissed off at being called TACO and thought "I'll show them!"
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:18 AM
Sunday

He was livid at the press making fun of his “two weeks” tactic…….again. No rhyme or reason……just saving face and acting tough. IMO.


Farmer-Rick

(11,784 posts)
11. So now we are in a war with Iran
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:24 AM
Sunday

So that's war number 1. How many more do you think he'll start? I bet before he dies the US will be as poor as North Korea and be in at least 5 wars

All hail the demented orange balding pedophile in the white house. A perfect symbol of late stage capitalism.

Puppyjive

(741 posts)
12. Look at the timeline
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:41 AM
Sunday

The Israel/Iran war started on June 13th. The US bombed Iran on June 22. The US has fallen to Israel 's demands and this is not right. Was the retaliation against the US ever considered? Iran does have some big allies like China and Russia.

SocialDemocrat61

(4,876 posts)
14. I've thought most WH correspondents were a waste of time
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 08:52 AM
Sunday

for years, especially when the asked democrats gotcha questions based on right wing talking points.

paleotn

(20,517 posts)
23. Capabilities Nuttyyahoo didn't have.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:16 AM
Sunday

Deep penetrating munitions and the ability to get them to target. But the Iranians aren't stupid. What could be relocated and dispersed was already dispersed. Iranians have been planning for this potential outcome since Obama was in the White House. The Air Force may very well have blown the shit out of a nearly empty site. Plus, Fordow is massive. Not dissimilar to the old NORAD base in Cheyenne Mountain. Rendering it "destroyed" would take more than one flight of B-2's.

So other than destroying US credibility, this is a whole lot of bullshit.

paleotn

(20,517 posts)
19. Waste of time for everyone.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:04 AM
Sunday

Being trusted to keep your word is one of, if not the most important point in diplomacy. In a single stroke, Donnie the Dumbass just blew all that up, pun intended. That severely limits our options now and in the future, making the US much less safe. No one will believe us anymore. Maybe ever. "Giving me 2 weeks? I don't believe you. Diplomacy is off the table."

In October 1962, the fact that the Kennedy administration could be trusted to do exactly what they said they'd do is one of the reasons I'm able to type this. The world didn't end in a nuclear holocaust. The importance of trust cannot be overstated in international affairs. We're now a rogue state, no different than North Korea. But the magats probably think that's a good thing. Such fools on so many levels.

speak easy

(11,755 posts)
20. Disinformation. Why do we do we do this on DU?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:05 AM
Sunday

Krasnov said : -

I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks.

Within 2 weeks - not after.

" He said he needed two weeks." No. Shame.

paleotn

(20,517 posts)
24. Supposedly to give negotiations a chance. He didn't give them a chance.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:18 AM
Sunday

We can no longer be trusted.

Igel

(36,858 posts)
28. Years ago I was told that ultimately all reading should be "close reading."
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:20 AM
Sunday

Most of my HS students are doing good to read for "the gist."

Making their lives harder is that they're trained on literature, with supports--so there's review if they miss something, things are redundant with foreshadowing and flashbacks, characters asking for confirmation and a narrator setting things up to encourage understanding (or, at times, misdirection, depending on genre).

That means a lot of people aren't really set up for close reading.

Here's a link that goes a bit screwball and is condescending, I think, even to its intended audience, but it's intensely clear when it's right.

https://www.weareteachers.com/strategies-for-close-reading/

paleotn

(20,517 posts)
30. Years ago, I was told that being unnecessarily condescending
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:22 PM
Sunday

was no way to win or influence people. In fact, it has the opposite affect. I struggle with that. Perhaps you do as well.

Krasnov said : -

I will make my decision whether or not to go within the next two weeks.

Within 2 weeks - not after.

" He said he needed two weeks." No. Shame.


Shame? Really? And which Donnie blathering are you close reading and holding him to? It changes by the hour. Hell, even he doesn't realize what he's just said half the time, nor does he have any intention of sticking to anything he does remember if it suits his purposes not to.

A similar take as mine...

As late as Thursday, he’d suggested that Iran’s leaders would have up to two more weeks to negotiate. But at that point, he had already made up his mind: The United States was going to bomb Iran.


https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/06/trump-israel-iran-bomb/683275/

Right, wrong or indifferent, the US can no longer be trusted diplomatically.


Marthe48

(20,918 posts)
21. This ploy has been done before
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:10 AM
Sunday

IIRC, bush said we'd attack Iraq on a certain day, and attacked earlier. I'm not a military expert, but I think this is used as a ploy to surprise the country about to be reduced to rubble.

Oneironaut

(6,029 posts)
29. It always was. The media just believes him for some reason.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:31 PM
Sunday

Given their propensity to rote parrot propaganda out of Trump’s mouth, it’s obviously deliberate on their part at this point. Someone would have to be a complete idiot to believe anything Trump says.

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