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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBreaking: Iran closes Strait of Hormuz
Last edited Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:56 PM - Edit history (1)
Just reported on MSNBC
FILL UP NOW.
UPDATE: While Iranian state media reported that the parliament had agreed to endorse blocking the strait, the decision ultimately belongs to Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

marble falls
(66,989 posts)Bohunk68
(1,399 posts)The industry will still jack up prices regardless. That's why they gave Putinfluffer the billion for his election.
marble falls
(66,989 posts)... above small craft in less than fifteen minutes to an American aircraft carrier task force. There is some speculation that Iran somehow found out that the orders to the task force was that they were to "neutralize" Iranian swiftboats that got to neat the fleet, but that they were not to engage Iranian naval ships. Two got too to close and locked targeting radar on the American ships and they got zapped PDQ. Iraq's Navy had Exocet missiles and they are effective, and they accidently almost sank the USS Stark
USS Stark listing after being struck by two Iraqi Exocet missiles in the Persian Gulf during the Iran/Iraq war.
She made it back to the states for repairs, lost 37 dead in the event and in treatment, with 23 wounded.
Saddam Hussain apologized and claimed the pilot mistook the frigate (just a tad smaller than a destroyer) for an Iranian tanker.
According to the Pentagon, an Iranian helicopter joined a Saudi Arabian vessel to aid in rescue operations.
spanone
(139,605 posts)marble falls
(66,989 posts)... we wiped out half of their big boats the last time. Two ships smaller than a US destroyer. The US has 11 active aircraft (mostly nuclear) carriers that can stay on station for years. There's at four of them within a weeks cruise, though their aircraft can be there in a few hours. If they try to block it with wrecks, just remember how quickly civilians cleared Baltimore Harbor last year, or how quickly the Egyptians cleared the Suez when the Evergreen wedged itself.
Interesting factoid. The USAF is the largest air force on the planet. Guess who's #2.
The US Navy.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,514 posts)This entire mess had nothing to do with the USA. Now we are in an another quagmire with a stupid easily manipulated narcissist and no experienced diplomats to engage the Iranians.
wolfie001
(5,681 posts)He's quite the embarrassment. "How was your day, oh great leader?" with tears in his eyes.....
Martin68
(26,146 posts)JPK
(821 posts)Tankers will stay in port. Insurance rates, already high, will skyrocket. It won't take too much.
Or simply lining up all of the Iranian tankers in the two channels and wiring them with explosives.
Each channel is only 2 miles wide, with a 2 mile buffer zone in between.
One part of it is in Iranian waters, very near their coastline.
kentuck
(114,373 posts)It will definitely affect the world oil supply. And the prices also, I would assume.
This is only the beginning. It is hardly time to raise the "Mission Accomplished" banner yet.
roamer65
(37,677 posts)The first part of the shipping channel when leaving the Gulf is VERY close to the Iranian mainland.
It passes in between Iranian islands and their mainland.
progree
(12,085 posts)Africa instead.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iran-orders-closure-of-strait-of-hormuz-putting-one-fifth-of-world-s-oil-supply-at-risk/ar-AA1Hc03Y
Using the firing of missiles and drones, the Houthis were able to cut ship traffic through the Red Sea and the Gulf of Aden some 70% in June compared with the average levels in 2022 and 2023, according to Clarkson Research Services Ltd, a unit of the worlds largest shipbroker.
Vessel operators have been forced instead to reroute traffic around the southern tip of Africa instead of using the Suez Canal, making journeys for ships traveling between Europe and Asia vastly more expensive and much longer.
Separately, by the way, my post's article title is misleading "Iran orders closure of Strait of Hormuz putting one-fifth of worlds oil supply at risk"
as the article points out, it's just a vote of the Iranian Parliament
Native
(7,184 posts)I think it was in The Economist
ImNotGod
(854 posts)Kaleva
(39,640 posts)Last edited Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:55 PM - Edit history (1)
roamer65
(37,677 posts)We will blow past $100 easy.
Shades of 1973, 1979 and 1990.
Kaleva
(39,640 posts)Prices will be higher but there wont be any shortage in the US.
roamer65
(37,677 posts)Our refineries are more tailored for sweet light crude.
I can run Unleaded 88, 15 pct EtOH
so I will fare better than most.
Plus I get above 35 mpg, so $6 to $$8 a gallon doesnt matter to me.
FBaggins
(28,237 posts)Certainly more so than most oil coming through the Straight.
We actually have a number of refineries tailored for the heavier stuff
which is why we still import some (from Canada and Venezuela) despite producing more than we consume overall
hunter
(39,639 posts)They don't have any loyalty to the U.S. American consumer.
Red Mountain
(2,139 posts)It's a huge windfall for domestic producers.
Sailingdiver
(263 posts)We are currently only refining imported oil.
Red Mountain
(2,139 posts)including domestic. Most of our oil imports for gasoline refining are coming from Canada and Mexico these days, though.
ck4829
(36,981 posts)Any excuse to jack up prices
iemanja
(56,246 posts)Oil is a global commodity, and price increases in one region affect the global price.
FBaggins
(28,237 posts)Its about ten percent of our imports - not total supply.
Kaleva
(39,640 posts)FormerOstrich
(2,825 posts)closing the straight. Have they actually done so (yet)?
roamer65
(37,677 posts)But its coming and they can do it. Part of the shipping channel is directly in Iranian waters and hugs their coastline.
kkmarie
(257 posts)Still needs the approval of the Supreme Leader, you know the guy Krasnov threatened to kill.
LetMyPeopleVote
(166,210 posts)Link to tweet

Butterflylady
(4,490 posts)Those 2 Chinese ships in the gulf, I was wondering what their doing there.
Warpy
(113,680 posts)it is going to be a temporary disaster as trade through the Suez is backed up. This is going to piss everybody off, Even Russia. Their shadow fleet won't be able to make it to India in a timelay manner.
This is a dumbass move by desperate men who want to remain in power.
OnDoutside
(20,850 posts)Response to spanone (Original post)
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Butterflylady
(4,490 posts)But, Iran will more than likely strike our base in Saudi and the Saudi won't be happy if they bomb their oil fields too.
ImNotGod
(854 posts)iemanja
(56,246 posts)Unlike the so-called democracy, The USA.
wolfie001
(5,681 posts)One tank per month (around 7 gallons). I'm fine until the republican motherfuckers break Social Security and Medicare. I already eliminated extra spending on Jan. 20th. I just knew this fat fuck was gonna destroy everything. All because some guy somewhere put on a dress.
OrlandoDem2
(3,000 posts)Ill pay higher gas prices in exchange for lower approval ratings for the orange anus in the WH.
twodogsbarking
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Jack Valentino
(2,795 posts)~ Donald Trump, some years back....
twodogsbarking
(14,352 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,726 posts)No more 55 mile per day round trip commute 5 days a week. My spouse and I combined might drive about five or six thousand miles per year now.
IronLionZion
(49,433 posts)Deep state? DEI? Pride?
spanone
(139,605 posts)IronLionZion
(49,433 posts)which only works on idiots who don't know that Obama got international inspectors to visit their facilities to monitor compliance with treaties.
bluedigger
(17,268 posts)Well, Putin maybe, but nobody talks to him.
markodochartaigh
(3,334 posts)It was very, very slow for a Sunday. But the gas lines are backed up more than normal.
Beachnutt
(8,803 posts)industry will really take off now.
Looking on the bright side.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(125,876 posts)Emile
(35,886 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,657 posts)... BIG news, but I just turned on MSNBC and they were not reporting this... they do a lot of repeat segments and shows, but this seemed to be an actual "live" Morning Joe morning, for now. They repeat 3 AM at 5 AM, so I will see what others are reporting on this closure.