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senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 12:53 PM Jun 22

Excellent advice from Sen. Merkley just now on MSNBC

Of course that means there is no way trump will follow it.

Basically, he said that trump needs to capitalize on the gratitude Israel has towards the US now by demanding that they endorse a cease fire. The cease fire needs to be used to return to negotiations.

There will be many, many negative repercussions of the unilateral action taken last night. Are we just going to suck up all the negative and dangerous blowback without demanding anything in return?

I fear the answer is yes.

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Amaryllis

(10,564 posts)
4. Merkley said he found out about Iran strikes from someone he had an apt with who called him to see if they were
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jun 22

still on for their apt. Senators were not even notified this had happened.

BaronChocula

(2,965 posts)
11. I can't wait for the "both sides" approach
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:09 PM
Jun 22
"Democrats have no plan to rein in Trump"

"Iran bombing exposes Democrats' lack of strategy"

"Bombing poses further setback to Democrats"

"Democrats gave no input on war plans that weren't shared with them"

I may go into another news blackout aside from what I read here.

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
13. A NYT specialty
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:12 PM
Jun 22

That is, when they are not just flat out acting as republican stenographers. I may join you in that blackout.

BidenRocks

(1,836 posts)
15. This is what happens when you refuse the hotels and casinos.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jun 22

Bibi feels the same with Gaza.

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
17. To be fair, I don't think Merkley
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:08 PM
Jun 22

suggested that trump would listen to him. He was just giving his advice and the sanity was refreshing.

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
19. I don't think Merkley thinks Trump would listen. I just wish instead of talking about Trump as if he is rational
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jun 22

or even remotely a normal President one disagrees with -- that people would recognize the urgency of what is happening and stop using words that normalized this situation. His advice is simply going to fall on deaf ears and pretending that we have a government that we can "disagree" with isn't what will save us. I like Merkley. I think Democrats are making big mistakes in this normalization of this situation.

senseandsensibility

(22,827 posts)
20. Yeah, the Dems approach needs to be like the one
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 06:07 PM
Jun 22

from Tea Pain on bluesky that I posted in another thread. Basically, hey maga, remember how you voted for lower gas prices and an end to war? We're not going to let you forget.

But I'm afraid they will let them forget because that type of message needs to be relentless.

Exp

(439 posts)
18. Agreed, WTF does Israel EVER GIVE us back? They are our LARGEST foreign benefactor by a huge margin! nt
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 05:40 PM
Jun 22
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