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imanamerican63

(15,268 posts)
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:01 PM Jun 22

Hold on! Iran has decided to close the Strait of Hormuz!

The impact will drastically affect the economy with higher oil prices & we will pay for it at the pump!

Thanks Donald ( )

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Hold on! Iran has decided to close the Strait of Hormuz! (Original Post) imanamerican63 Jun 22 OP
They will try pfitz59 Jun 22 #1
Or, rather, respond to escalation with escalation. Igel Jun 22 #5
Agreed. What did escalator trump and warmonger Netanyahu... brush Jun 22 #16
Yup, none of this comes the least bit as a surprise... just sad!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 22 #51
Hope someone's going to make money by printing a bunch of stickers with sinkingfeeling Jun 22 #2
You just saying they decided is not evidence. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 22 #3
Iran and who's army? TnDem Jun 22 #4
Russia and China? imanamerican63 Jun 22 #6
I doubt they'll do shit either TnDem Jun 22 #7
Well djt has gently mentioned something about drill-drill-drill. In our national parks. But allegorical oracle Jun 22 #43
China will be badly hurt by the closure, as will Japan. Dreamer Tatum Jun 22 #13
China and oil TnDem Jun 22 #20
Closing the straight impacts the 85% ... Dave says Jun 22 #57
China wouldn't be assisting Iran in any way, shape, or form. Angleae Jun 22 #48
So, I guess Trump is a genius, right? hamsterjill Jun 22 #17
I don't think he's a genius at all TnDem Jun 22 #18
It's that "constant crazy thorn" part that I worry about. hamsterjill Jun 22 #19
True, but TnDem Jun 22 #21
Agreed. hamsterjill Jun 22 #26
You are living in a fantasy world if you believe in any of what you have said. flashman13 Jun 22 #33
Iran can harass shipping as it's Houthi allies did at the Red Sea chokepoint. Eugene Jun 22 #34
You don't need a huge fleet of warships to block the gulf. LudwigPastorius Jun 22 #58
Stephen Miller topped off the tank last night. Kid Berwyn Jun 22 #8
I think you are blowing up a news report into something it is not. Bernardo de La Paz Jun 22 #9
Iran has a different set of options with the goal of maintaining sovereignty. Safe as Milk Jun 22 #22
Iran government moves to block major oil, gas route spanone Jun 22 #24
The Parliament does NOT make the decision. The Straits are NOT blocked. Read the excerpt you quoted. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 22 #25
I read it. It agreed with you. wtf? spanone Jun 22 #28
Sorry, I was confused when you wrote "government". I was thinking you were equating Parliament with "government" Bernardo de La Paz Jun 22 #29
For those who say Iran can't actually close it, they do not need to do so for gas prices RockRaven Jun 22 #10
This is the right answer. nt LexVegas Jun 22 #23
You mean gas prices will go up from Trump's claim of $1.98/gal? Gimpyknee Jun 22 #36
Well the orange jerk-off says we are the largest energy producer on the planet. But we ship allegorical oracle Jun 22 #46
his tarrifs didnt help with prices either. AllaN01Bear Jun 22 #11
How will they do that? WarGamer Jun 22 #12
A small boat blew a big hole in the USS Cole and killed 17 sailors NickB79 Jun 22 #49
The designated bogeyman is threaening the frail USA again. Send in more bombs to protect us! Ping Tung Jun 22 #14
Perhaps the collective weight of a multitude of gored oxen EYESORE 9001 Jun 22 #15
Someone is already messing with GPS in the Strait LetMyPeopleVote Jun 22 #27
This is a really good youtube channel, deals with shipping. jeffreyi Jun 22 #30
I think gas prices are already going up "on spec." 9 cents higher than last Thursday where I live. Vinca Jun 22 #31
Here we go again! Eugene Jun 22 #32
Fugg! Orange Turd don't care Pas-de-Calais Jun 22 #35
Oh, come on now! blue-wave Jun 22 #37
Wow, so you're saying Trump can win the Nobel Prize for Peace and Economics? dem4decades Jun 22 #52
LOL!!! blue-wave Jun 22 #56
I wouldn't be surprised if the US military hopes they try. Melon Jun 22 #38
Just the threat will affect world economies. Martin68 Jun 22 #39
Higher oil prices while they actively try to kill off EVs tinrobot Jun 22 #40
Reminder: the US is responsible for all this. SidneyR Jun 22 #41
This would unfortunately help Russia in their war on Ukraine CanonRay Jun 22 #42
The last time Iran tried something like that, it didn't turn out too well for them, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 22 #44
No way! Kingofalldems Jun 22 #45
No Irab dasn't made a decision yet. Progressive dog Jun 22 #47
That is not going to happen Chuuku Davis Jun 22 #50
I'm not worried about it, because Miami Blue Jun 22 #53
Pete Hegseth wants it to be renamed...... imanamerican63 Jun 22 #54
USN OC375 Jun 22 #55

Igel

(37,026 posts)
5. Or, rather, respond to escalation with escalation.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:09 PM
Jun 22

I get mildly annoyed when only one side is said to escalate when both are not only on the escalator, but actively walking up the stairs.

"The whole truth and nothing but the truth!" is a good media practice ... One, actually, that I've never heard was practiced by any body.

brush

(60,758 posts)
16. Agreed. What did escalator trump and warmonger Netanyahu...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:31 PM
Jun 22

think was gonna happen after widening the war carrying out unprovoked attacks on Iran...much like Putin's unprovoked attack on Ukraine?

Did they actually think Iran, which has cards to play, would react like the shelterless, defenseless-and-nowhere-to-go Palestinians in Gaza?

Here we go again wiith more years of war...deja vu Iraq.

sinkingfeeling

(56,007 posts)
2. Hope someone's going to make money by printing a bunch of stickers with
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:04 PM
Jun 22

TSF saying, "I did that". We could put them on every gas pump in the country.

TnDem

(1,163 posts)
4. Iran and who's army?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:07 PM
Jun 22

The Iranian Navy is comprised of a few cigarette boats by comparison to even a medium sized country.

If they try to close the Strait of Hormuz, the entire Arab peninsula will cheer Trump on to blow their asses out of the water when the Saudis can't ship their oil.

Probably a stupid move on Iran's part.

TnDem

(1,163 posts)
7. I doubt they'll do shit either
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:15 PM
Jun 22

Trump would probably sell them oil from the US to neuter Iran's few percentages of production if he has to.

allegorical oracle

(5,443 posts)
43. Well djt has gently mentioned something about drill-drill-drill. In our national parks. But
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:23 PM
Jun 22

that's okay. Those parks are old and everybody who wanted to enjoy them have already visited. And we have lots of photos and films and artwork featuring them.

TnDem

(1,163 posts)
20. China and oil
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jun 22

China and the rest of the world may experience a blip in supply if Iran pulls another stunt. However, commerce hates a vacuum and it will quickly be filled with supplies being ticked up worldwide to fill the vacuum.

Iran only supplies around 15% of the world's oil.

Dave says

(5,196 posts)
57. Closing the straight impacts the 85% ...
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:06 PM
Jun 22

… that is not pumped up from grounds belonging to Iraq. A lot of oil from other nations in the ME travels by tanker through the Strait. Closing the Strait of Hormuz will have impact on the global economy.

Angleae

(4,732 posts)
48. China wouldn't be assisting Iran in any way, shape, or form.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:01 PM
Jun 22

Quite the opposite. They're reliant on ME oil.

As far as russia goes, they've just been so successful in their military endeavors recently.

hamsterjill

(16,154 posts)
17. So, I guess Trump is a genius, right?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:59 PM
Jun 22

I honestly don't think Iran is going to sit back and do nothing. At a minimum, we are going to see suicide bombers and beheadings. Especially if they have nothing to lose.

Makes me sick to think of a repeat of all of that crap.

TnDem

(1,163 posts)
18. I don't think he's a genius at all
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:06 PM
Jun 22

Iran has their own sack by their own short hairs. They caused this by being a constant crazy thorn to every Arab neighbor plus Israel. Iran is like the crazy brother that nobody wants to invite to Sunday dinners for fear he'll pull a knife out a stab everyone at the party. No Arab states trust Iran...None.

Anything Iran does to upset global oil exports will be further despised by all other Arab countries.

hamsterjill

(16,154 posts)
19. It's that "constant crazy thorn" part that I worry about.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jun 22

Because we have our own constant, crazy asshole in charge. Put the two together and more people are going to die. Trump wouldn't know diplomacy if it bit him on the ass.

TnDem

(1,163 posts)
21. True, but
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:14 PM
Jun 22

This crazy asshole apparently has better bunker busters and delivery systems than Iran does.

hamsterjill

(16,154 posts)
26. Agreed.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jun 22

But Iran has more people willing to strap a bomb to their back and die for their cause.

MAGA’s are all mouth and wouldn’t do that for their dictator.

Peace. That’s my wish for all of us.

Eugene

(65,990 posts)
34. Iran can harass shipping as it's Houthi allies did at the Red Sea chokepoint.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:12 PM
Jun 22

When Iran did this in the 1980s, the U.S. and Iran got into a "low-intensity" shooting war. The Captain of the USS Vincennes got a medal for shooting down an airliner.

This is going to get messy.

LudwigPastorius

(13,047 posts)
58. You don't need a huge fleet of warships to block the gulf.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jun 22

You just need to lay mines in the 22-nautical-mile gap that every ship has to transit to get in or out of it.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
8. Stephen Miller topped off the tank last night.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:18 PM
Jun 22

But on Friday his stockbroker was really busy, all day.

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,321 posts)
9. I think you are blowing up a news report into something it is not.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jun 22

I have heard it reported that the Parliament has backed closing the Strait and that there is a strategic council that will maybe decide one way or the other.

At time I am writing this I don't think you can post a link to an authentic report that it is definitively going to be closed (although things can changed quickly).

The Parliament does not have the authority to close the Strait.

Safe as Milk

(135 posts)
22. Iran has a different set of options with the goal of maintaining sovereignty.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:16 PM
Jun 22

Closing the Strait is one of them. They have leverage, and they're compelled to use it. There are risks with anything, but equations change after unprovoked intrusions into Iran's territory. Israel's and the US's aggression is indeed provocative and begs for retaliation. God isn't making these decisions. Imperfect people are making them: people with varying motivations and misperceptions that do NOT have "peace" as the endgame. Iran is also an imperfect victim. They could have done plenty to avoid conflict with Israel in the medium and long term. They are partially responsible for all of this, but as singular incidents, the bombing, the destruction and the aggression comes from the US and Israel. They are the perpetrators of international crimes. End of story.

spanone

(139,727 posts)
24. Iran government moves to block major oil, gas route
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:21 PM
Jun 22

Iran's parliament approved a measure June 22 endorsing the closure of the Strait of Hormuz, a major oil transportation route, following U.S. airstrikes in Iran.

Around 20% of the world's oil and gas flow through the narrow channel connecting the Persian Gulf to the Gulf of Oman. Its closure would likely mean rising fuel costs for global consumers, including Americans.

While Iranian state media reported that the parliament had agreed to endorse blocking the strait, the decision ultimately belongs to Iran's Supreme National Security Council.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/06/22/iran-parliament-strait-of-hormuz-closure/84307368007/

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,321 posts)
25. The Parliament does NOT make the decision. The Straits are NOT blocked. Read the excerpt you quoted. . . nt
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:27 PM
Jun 22

Bernardo de La Paz

(57,321 posts)
29. Sorry, I was confused when you wrote "government". I was thinking you were equating Parliament with "government"
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:45 PM
Jun 22

The Parliament is not the ultimate government of Iran. The Supreme Leader and the leadership of the Guard are the real government. When I saw "government" I thought you were taking issue with me.

RockRaven

(17,638 posts)
10. For those who say Iran can't actually close it, they do not need to do so for gas prices
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:23 PM
Jun 22

to spike. There will be market reactions and also opportunistic price gouging even absent a successful closure, the attempt or statement of intent is enough.

allegorical oracle

(5,443 posts)
46. Well the orange jerk-off says we are the largest energy producer on the planet. But we ship
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:32 PM
Jun 22

a lot of it overseas where it brings higher prices. Don't see jerk-off changing that to keep prices low here.

WarGamer

(17,599 posts)
12. How will they do that?
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:24 PM
Jun 22

With their *Air Force or their *Navy or a guy on the beach shooting RPG's?

NickB79

(20,004 posts)
49. A small boat blew a big hole in the USS Cole and killed 17 sailors
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:01 PM
Jun 22

Do something similar to one massive oil tanker and you'll absolutely shut down ship transit out of fear, especially if the tanker catches fire and sinks. Or use drones. The Ukrainian have been sinking large Russian naval ships with drone boats stuffed with explosives.

All you need to do is seriously damage one big ship to start a panic.

EYESORE 9001

(28,638 posts)
15. Perhaps the collective weight of a multitude of gored oxen
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 01:29 PM
Jun 22

will awaken the masses. I get tired of repeating myself, however, and I’m tending back toward the ‘frog in a pot of water being heated’ analogy. My pessimism is gaining the upper hand, so I think there will be nothing past mere aggrievement. By the time people burn through their proudly-obtained final tank of cheap gas, the world will have changed in unprecedented and unimaginable ways - even for me, and I spend way too much time running scenarios in my head anyway.

The rump regime will now unleash a deluge of wartime powers - real and imaginary, mostly unlawfully - to the detriment of everyone worldwide. And they’ll get help from enemies of the USA who didn’t just quit hating when the orange menace first corrupted the office of president. They’ve been biding their time to carry out asymmetrical attacks, and American pilots dropping bombs on Iran seems a likely tripwire for commencing… well, who TF knows? Our intelligence community is presently focused on Democrats - not international terrorism.

Slap me silly for saying so, but a military government for a brief transitional time is in my top 5 favorable scenarios - not favorable personally, but favorable existentially.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,986 posts)
27. Someone is already messing with GPS in the Strait
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 02:29 PM
Jun 22


The United Kingdom Maritime Trade Operations advisory reports ongoing high electronic interference in the region, especially disrupting GPS systems. Interference originates from Bandar Abbas and the central Arabian Gulf, causing some vessels to navigate the Strait of Hormuz only during daylight. Increased ship congestion is also noted near Dubai and southern Gulf of Oman.

jeffreyi

(2,399 posts)
30. This is a really good youtube channel, deals with shipping.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:00 PM
Jun 22

This video was made just before the USA attacks. I am pretty sure this channel will have an update very soon.

?si=1-yJfapS0lHtMpkw

Vinca

(52,460 posts)
31. I think gas prices are already going up "on spec." 9 cents higher than last Thursday where I live.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:03 PM
Jun 22

Eugene

(65,990 posts)
32. Here we go again!
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:06 PM
Jun 22

Americans over 50 likely remember the Tanker War during the 1980s. Iran and Iraq were at war, and both sides attacked merchant shipping.

The U.S. intervened to protect the oil tankers, leading to "low-intensity" shooting conflict between the U.S. and Iran.

Pas-de-Calais

(10,141 posts)
35. Fugg! Orange Turd don't care
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:15 PM
Jun 22

His sycophants on the Sunday talks sounded like parrots
They’re all loonies

blue-wave

(4,730 posts)
37. Oh, come on now!
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:23 PM
Jun 22

Trump already told us that he will bring inflation down AND be the "peace" president. You mean that's not happening?

Melon

(640 posts)
38. I wouldn't be surprised if the US military hopes they try.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 03:30 PM
Jun 22

If they use their Navy, the US will sink their entire navy in hours. Iran has got nothing.
They have yet to scramble their Air Force. It was destroyed on the ground.
If they shoot a missile at a US ship, we will destroy their remaining launchers within days if not sooner.
Iran has nothing. Nobody else will step in to help Iran. China, nope. Russia can’t nor can they project power that far. Iran is toast really.

SidneyR

(168 posts)
41. Reminder: the US is responsible for all this.
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:04 PM
Jun 22

Dating back to the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Iran in 1953, and the CIA sponsored assassinations of liberal leaders and allies of overthrown President Mossaddegh, leaving as the only option the theocratic dictators we see now.

CanonRay

(15,451 posts)
42. This would unfortunately help Russia in their war on Ukraine
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:06 PM
Jun 22

They were going broke but $130 oil will bail them out.

MarineCombatEngineer

(15,864 posts)
44. The last time Iran tried something like that, it didn't turn out too well for them,
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 04:26 PM
Jun 22

they lost 1/2 of their Naval forces in an 8 hour period.

&t=81s

Miami Blue

(324 posts)
53. I'm not worried about it, because
Sun Jun 22, 2025, 09:34 PM
Jun 22

I’m sure that FelonTraitorTrump is gonna use his Magic Sharpie to rename the Strait of Hormuz to
🇺🇸The Strait of America 🇺🇸. So the cost of gasoline remains at a cheap price.
😂🏄‍♂️🌴🤣.

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