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LuckyCharms

(21,313 posts)
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 10:28 AM Jun 2025

I automatically assume that everything that is stated by any cabinet member in this administration

is a lie.

I assume that everything that is said is not said to honor reality, but rather, it is said to honor Trump's ego.

I watched Hegseth today.

He acts like a man who knows he is lying. Pam Bondi acts the same way. Like children when they double-down on their lies.

They both get louder. They get aggressive. They get mean.

Because they think they sound more convincing when they act like that, when in reality, they sound weak and less convincing.

It amazes me that adults act like this, let alone adults in important cabinet positions.

Truly, it's amazing.

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I automatically assume that everything that is stated by any cabinet member in this administration (Original Post) LuckyCharms Jun 2025 OP
Perceptive. kentuck Jun 2025 #1
I consider it my civic duty to automatically assume they are lying Ohioboy Jun 2025 #22
Times have changed a lot since Krasnov gab13by13 Jun 2025 #2
They need a tanker ship full of gumption. nt Hotler Jun 2025 #5
I assume anything stated by a republican SocialDemocrat61 Jun 2025 #3
Same here... LuckyCharms Jun 2025 #4
They are all demeaning the US government - either purposefully or through their stupidity. erronis Jun 2025 #6
Absolutely agree. niyad Jun 2025 #7
it's crazy. barbtries Jun 2025 #8
I saw about 30 seconds of Hog's Breath presser this AM. Then I had to turn it off. Botany Jun 2025 #9
But he WILL talk about it. ShazzieB Jun 2025 #35
When government Just Jerome Jun 2025 #10
The phony indignation is a tell ThoughtCriminal Jun 2025 #11
Yep! That's at the heart of the attacks on the media... Wounded Bear Jun 2025 #17
EXACTLY! vapor2 Jun 2025 #41
No question, any contradiction in facts JMCKUSICK Jun 2025 #12
Yep. Me too. Scrivener7 Jun 2025 #13
They ARE members of a crime syndicate BaronChocula Jun 2025 #14
weak and less convincing gfarber Jun 2025 #15
Trump's DENVERPOPS Jun 2025 #16
Me too. If the lips of Don the Con are moving [or anyone in his administration], they are likely LYING. n/t iluvtennis Jun 2025 #18
Any time a Republican's lips move Lokee11 Jun 2025 #19
They all act as if they're "in service" like the folks who serve(d) the wealthy classes in the UK (think Downtown Abbey) Texin Jun 2025 #20
not much of a requirement NJCher Jun 2025 #21
These are not adults ButchMcMuffin Jun 2025 #23
Standard Departmental internal text disclaimer: Marcuse Jun 2025 #24
CORRECT! I can't tell you how frustrating it is to tune into most MSM outlets and hear extended discussions about wiggs Jun 2025 #25
Yes they know they are lying. Irish_Dem Jun 2025 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author The Wizard Jun 2025 #27
"The lady The Wizard Jun 2025 #28
That's a correct assessment. Gimpyknee Jun 2025 #29
Yup, as I have said a bazillion times, here and outhere THEY ALL FAWKING LIE BECAUSE THE a kennedy Jun 2025 #30
That's a reasonable and safe stance to take. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2025 #31
One of the most absurd lies was by Pam Bondi kkmarie Jun 2025 #32
Used to be "Trust but verify". mwooldri Jun 2025 #33
they are all children 4catsmom Jun 2025 #34
Yeah, but they have "God" on their side, so it's all good. Evolve Dammit Jun 2025 #36
Kegbreath is textbook angry drunk. Some reporter Hassler Jun 2025 #37
Yup, you have nailed it. republianmushroom Jun 2025 #38
Acting RecoveringJournalist Jun 2025 #39
Everything they say is bullshit and subject to question. Space Lemon Jun 2025 #40
They put the Gish in the Gallop! BidenRocks Jun 2025 #42
dim donnie needs CONSTANT fluffing. pansypoo53219 Jun 2025 #43
It is all 2+25 with these people RVN VET71 Jun 2025 #44
In all fairness Seinan Sensei Jun 2025 #45
I'm not amazed. MaineBlueBear Jun 2025 #46

Ohioboy

(3,841 posts)
22. I consider it my civic duty to automatically assume they are lying
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 01:14 PM
Jun 2025

If they are not lying we can always find out later.

gab13by13

(30,959 posts)
2. Times have changed a lot since Krasnov
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 10:34 AM
Jun 2025

Congressional Democrats need new tactics. At this stage we won't be saved by Congress or by the courts, we will be saved by the people.

Hey Congressional Democrats join with Indivisible, the ACLU, and others who understand how to fight back. We the people are eager and waiting for guidance.

GOTV only works for fair elections.

erronis

(22,388 posts)
6. They are all demeaning the US government - either purposefully or through their stupidity.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 10:48 AM
Jun 2025

When/if responsible adults finally get in charge of the government, the trust of the people will be severely eroded - again. A painful process to rebuild it.

barbtries

(31,058 posts)
8. it's crazy.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 11:24 AM
Jun 2025

truly insane.
maddening.
republicans do not, have not for years, acted in good faith

Botany

(76,159 posts)
9. I saw about 30 seconds of Hog's Breath presser this AM. Then I had to turn it off.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 11:29 AM
Jun 2025

His, “I talked to the director of the CIA this morning and he knows things and agrees with
the President but it is all top secret so he can’t talk about it publicly.” Very rough quote.

ShazzieB

(22,108 posts)
35. But he WILL talk about it.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 05:13 PM
Jun 2025

He can't keep anything "juicy" to himself, because he has zero judgment and zero self control. If he doesn't state it directly, he'll find a way to telegraph it.

Just Jerome

(410 posts)
10. When government
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 11:38 AM
Jun 2025

is a salable commodity, everyone gets what they can afford. If they even care to partake.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,694 posts)
11. The phony indignation is a tell
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jun 2025

Something cult members can't recognize, but functioning adults can spot it right away.

Wounded Bear

(63,718 posts)
17. Yep! That's at the heart of the attacks on the media...
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jun 2025

How dare you call us on our bullshit!?!?

Classic response from a bully .

vapor2

(3,594 posts)
41. EXACTLY!
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 07:35 PM
Jun 2025

They truly get defensive when called out. I wake up every morning hoping this nightmare will be over

JMCKUSICK

(4,849 posts)
12. No question, any contradiction in facts
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 11:50 AM
Jun 2025

are strictly beaten down. It really is scary, the worst part is so many Military School graduates have worked under trump and most have violated their school oath as well as their oath to the Constitution.
It really is terribly sad.

BaronChocula

(3,925 posts)
14. They ARE members of a crime syndicate
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:31 PM
Jun 2025

Corruption, law skirting, and pleasing Jaba the Putz are their guiding principles. Of course you need to lie to get there.

gfarber

(179 posts)
15. weak and less convincing
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:32 PM
Jun 2025

They sound that way to you and me, but to the rest of their MAGA crowd (whose critical thinking skills are suspect) they sound OK.

DENVERPOPS

(13,003 posts)
16. Trump's
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:37 PM
Jun 2025

cabinet and appointees are what happens when he threw open the doors of the mental institutions for the criminally insane........Seriously........

iluvtennis

(21,441 posts)
18. Me too. If the lips of Don the Con are moving [or anyone in his administration], they are likely LYING. n/t
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:41 PM
Jun 2025

Lokee11

(391 posts)
19. Any time a Republican's lips move
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:45 PM
Jun 2025

A lie is told and a demon gets its horns!

A sure way to know if a Republican is lying is to see if their lips are moving.

FUCK THEM ALL!!!

✊!

Texin

(2,825 posts)
20. They all act as if they're "in service" like the folks who serve(d) the wealthy classes in the UK (think Downtown Abbey)
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:54 PM
Jun 2025

But tRump's so-called "Cabinet members" are of a level of obsequiousness that boggles the mind. I can't recall any cabinet member prior to this guy that ever acted like they parked their brains, experience, expertise and downright dignity like these lightweight chucklebobs occupying their positions at present. I wouldn't be able to look myself in the mirror, let alone make eye contact with anyone anywhere outside the West Wing.

NJCher

(42,251 posts)
21. not much of a requirement
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:59 PM
Jun 2025
It amazes me that adults act like this, let alone adults in important cabinet positions.

A cabinet position in trump's maladministration can be had with such experience as washing soil off potatoes in the back end of the supermarket.

Really, that's about it.


wiggs

(8,627 posts)
25. CORRECT! I can't tell you how frustrating it is to tune into most MSM outlets and hear extended discussions about
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 01:39 PM
Jun 2025

the reporters who asked the questions, or the duration of time that Iran's nuclear program has been set back...wondering who is most incorrect.

THE STARTING ASSUMPTIONS SHOULD BE THAT WHAT COMES OUT OF THE WH IS UNRELIABLE...that they have lied thousands of times in public over the last tens years. The NEWS is that our government is feeding us PROPAGANDA.

The other news that is drowned out with the distractions over who is more incorrect is that the ENTIRE ORIGINAL DECISION to bomb Iran is incredibly complex, highly risky, doesn't address the month/year/ten years after the bombing...and that these questionable decisions are being made by a corrupt, uninterested, limited, ignorant man! WTH! We have a lifetime of context which should color analysis of everything potus does...but it is ignored!

The real news should terrify us and people around the world, and has to do with who is in charge of the world's most powerful nation and military. Come on man!

Irish_Dem

(78,972 posts)
26. Yes they know they are lying.
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jun 2025

And pretend to get angry when caught out in their lies.

They feel justified because they are at war with Americans and America.

Response to LuckyCharms (Original post)

a kennedy

(35,111 posts)
30. Yup, as I have said a bazillion times, here and outhere THEY ALL FAWKING LIE BECAUSE THE
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 02:55 PM
Jun 2025

ORANGE PIECE OF SHIT STARTED IT, SO NOW??? THEY ALL LIE!!!!!!! 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 Oh and sorry for yelling.

kkmarie

(336 posts)
32. One of the most absurd lies was by Pam Bondi
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 02:57 PM
Jun 2025
Pam Bondi denies knowing Ice agents wore masks during raids despite video evidence


In response, the attorney general said that it was protesters who were concealing their identities when assailing officers.
“Those people are the ones who have really been wearing the mask and trying to cover their identities,” she said, citing the recent demonstrations in Los Angeles, against which Donald Trump deployed national guard units. “We’ve been finding them. We have been charging them with assault on a federal officer.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/25/ag-pam-bondi-ice-masks-raids

Hassler

(4,711 posts)
37. Kegbreath is textbook angry drunk. Some reporter
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 06:05 PM
Jun 2025

Needs only to ask if he kept his promise after being appointed Def Sec to prove it.

39. Acting
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 06:40 PM
Jun 2025

It's Theater, nothing more and nothing less. They're acting for Trump's base. If they're mean enough to liberals or anyone anti-Trump, they look stronger in the eyes of his base.

RVN VET71

(3,108 posts)
44. It is all 2+25 with these people
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 05:59 AM
Jun 2025

They wake up in the morning and recite it as their Mantra: "2+2=5, 2+2=5, 2+2=5" before their morning coffee or other drug of choice. They hum it as they dress for the day, as they await their driver to take them to work.

"2+2=5, 2+2=5 . . . . . . " It keeps them focused on the lie that is Trump-Miller.

Hegseth called it the greatest and most hugest successful secret plan ever in the universe's history carried out successfully, because "2+2=5." That Normandy invasion thing was a little thing, a tiny little achievement . What was it? 250,000 combatants and as many support troops from several different nations preparing for months and the Nazis had no idea where the attack was going to take place until the day of the attack itself. Egos, some almost as bloated as Trump's, had to be placated and kept from striking out on their "heroic" own. Big deal!

But Trump managed to crerte a brilliant diversion by telling Iran and the world "two weeks" and then bombing the heck out of areas which may have contained their nuclear enrichment program -- or not; which may have set Iran's atomic bomb program back years -- or not.

Now the Fascists in the House and Senate are in lock step getting ready to pass Big Brother's Bill, and millions of Americans agree with the Bill because 2+2=5.

Seinan Sensei

(1,306 posts)
45. In all fairness
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 06:14 AM
Jun 2025

I think Tater-Head Tuberville isn’t lying.
I think he actually believes all the shit he says.

MaineBlueBear

(401 posts)
46. I'm not amazed.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:58 AM
Jun 2025

It's a cabinet of psychophants and loyalist miscreants.

How are our democratic leaders so lackluster against them? The optics are still against us. They're playing for their audience and winning.

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