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Doodley

(11,179 posts)
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:13 AM Jun 27

Do you think the Trump's Iran bombing debacle could become the biggest scandal facing his presidency?

By "biggest," I mean a scandal that it will generate ongoing negative publicity and his damage his support in a way nothing else has YET!

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Do you think the Trump's Iran bombing debacle could become the biggest scandal facing his presidency? (Original Post) Doodley Jun 27 OP
No. Detonating munitions is always a patriotic economic stimulus. bucolic_frolic Jun 27 #1
Trump is lying about the damage the bombing has caused. He's rant-posting and attacking the media and his own Doodley Jun 27 #4
I know but they're making money so M$M won't dote on it. bucolic_frolic Jun 27 #19
At some point the truth will come out, and if Trump has been lying about the damage to Iran's nuclear capability, that Doodley Jun 27 #24
Yes, we can hope, but did it do much damage in the WMD era? /nt bucolic_frolic Jun 27 #25
Scandal? According to the media, there's no such thing with Donnie unblock Jun 27 #2
I hope you are wrong! Doodley Jun 27 #12
If CNN's reporting that Trump has been engaged in "secret talks with Iran" is accurate, it's worse than Iran-Contra. sop Jun 27 #3
There is a lot there that could blow up. As we know, Trump only does anything for personal gain. Doodley Jun 27 #13
We're only six months in. He'll screw up far worse far more times Torchlight Jun 27 #5
We'll put My Friend. Short, succinct and BOSSHOG Jun 27 #10
I remember thinking sometime during his first administration that every day will be worse than the last... W_HAMILTON Jun 27 #15
Yep. We are only 6 months in, although it feels like years. Happening in dog years I suppose tulipsandroses Jun 27 #17
Telling Iran that bombing a military base chelsea0011 Jun 27 #6
I didn't know about that, but wouldn't be surprised. Is that legit reported or speculation? Doodley Jun 27 #18
No. Due to the sheer volume of crimes and abuses of power ecstatic Jun 27 #7
I agree about the CDC. What is the biggest to me is cutting healthcare, overseas aid, cancer research, CDC, etc.-- Doodley Jun 27 #20
True. Bibi is probably secretly furious as well ecstatic Jun 27 #28
I hope not. Paladin Jun 27 #8
Not really, but... EarlG Jun 27 #9
Maybe for today. But wait until tomorrow. Buns_of_Fire Jun 27 #11
Nope. Not even in the top 100. Autumn Jun 27 #14
Given the number of daily scandals and the number of days left in this idiotic term, I'm gonna say "no." Gore1FL Jun 27 #16
No. Nothing sticks to him. Not even thirty-seven felony convictions. Aristus Jun 27 #21
It could have all been Kabuki Theater gab13by13 Jun 27 #22
All are possible, but at some point the truth will come out about the damage done, if not from our intelligence services Doodley Jun 27 #23
Kabuki Theater Act IV gab13by13 Jun 27 #27
Not if he stops at this point. David__77 Jun 27 #26

bucolic_frolic

(51,381 posts)
1. No. Detonating munitions is always a patriotic economic stimulus.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:20 AM
Jun 27

It the defense contractors are happy, the portfolios are happy, all is good. Not a downside anywhere.

Doodley

(11,179 posts)
4. Trump is lying about the damage the bombing has caused. He's rant-posting and attacking the media and his own
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:26 AM
Jun 27

intelligence services all the time. Plus he warned Iran on social media that he was going to bomb them, giving them time to move enriched Uranium and equipment before the bombs came. This is where the scandal may explode in his face,

Doodley

(11,179 posts)
24. At some point the truth will come out, and if Trump has been lying about the damage to Iran's nuclear capability, that
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:05 AM
Jun 27

will be a global news story that even the Trump fascist machine can't stop.

unblock

(55,377 posts)
2. Scandal? According to the media, there's no such thing with Donnie
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:21 AM
Jun 27

In reality, he's a non-stop scandal machine. He routinely breaks every rule, no other politician would be allowed to survive a fraction of his crap.

That said, if there's a line they wouldn't allow him to cross, you'd think lying about military actions should be it.

I can see them saying lying about domestic stuff is "politics as usual" but lying about bombs and war and nuclear capabilities is something else.

But the media will get over this quickly as they've done with everything else Donnie has done. They simply have no journalistic integrity at this point, they've shifted owners and editorial boards and fired anyone with a conscience.

It's the fascist way.

sop

(15,156 posts)
3. If CNN's reporting that Trump has been engaged in "secret talks with Iran" is accurate, it's worse than Iran-Contra.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:24 AM
Jun 27

CNN link: https://www.cnn.com/2025/06/26/politics/us-iran-talks-nuclear-program

Also from Heather Cox Richardson: "This afternoon, Zachary Cohen, Alayna Treene, Kylie Atwood, and Jennifer Hansler of CNN reported that the administration has been engaged in secret talks to ease sanctions on Iran, free up $6 billion in Iranian funds currently in foreign banks, and help Iran access as much as $30 billion to build a nuclear energy program, all in exchange for Iran freezing its nuclear enrichment program."

"Trump ran his 2016 campaign in part by attacking President Barack Obama for the 2015 Iran nuclear deal, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), which was a much more stringent deal than the one suggested in the CNN article."

"But there is perhaps a different angle to this deal than the Obama administration’s. The idea of building nuclear power plants in the Middle East was central to Trump’s 2016 bid for office. Members of Trump’s inner circle, including Michael Flynn and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, hatched a plan for a joint U.S.-Russian project to build nuclear power plants in Saudi Arabia. In June 2016 they formed a company called IP3 International, short for International Peace, Power and Prosperity."

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/june-26-2025

Apparently, "some people are saying" Trump plans to personally profit from this deal. Also "some people are saying" Trump's bombing raid was part of this scheme. Inquiring minds want to know.

Doodley

(11,179 posts)
13. There is a lot there that could blow up. As we know, Trump only does anything for personal gain.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:34 AM
Jun 27

Torchlight

(5,072 posts)
5. We're only six months in. He'll screw up far worse far more times
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jun 27

I have faith in his ability to consistently and dramatically fail, blame others, and rely on his legion of enablers to soften the Goblin King's fall.

BOSSHOG

(43,225 posts)
10. We'll put My Friend. Short, succinct and
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:31 AM
Jun 27

TO THE FUCKING POINT. He’s got bigger scandals in the making and will continue to dupe the rubes.

W_HAMILTON

(9,305 posts)
15. I remember thinking sometime during his first administration that every day will be worse than the last...
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:36 AM
Jun 27

...and it will only get worse -- never better. That thinking has pretty much rang true ever since.

Unfortunately, too much of the electorate was too stupid to realize this on their own, so now they are learning the lesson they failed to learn the first time around...

tulipsandroses

(7,638 posts)
17. Yep. We are only 6 months in, although it feels like years. Happening in dog years I suppose
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:40 AM
Jun 27

the sad thing is no matter what he does, he will not lose much support. Sure some of the die hard isolationists may drop off, but he feeds is their racism, hate, bigotry - in a way they cannot get from anyone else. They will hold on to that no matter what. People are willing to lose family support to continue to be trump supporters. He wasn't lying when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose support.

chelsea0011

(10,147 posts)
6. Telling Iran that bombing a military base
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:27 AM
Jun 27

at 1:00 is fine with him is a far worse scandal. Why is the media not talking about an impeachable offense by the POTUS

Doodley

(11,179 posts)
18. I didn't know about that, but wouldn't be surprised. Is that legit reported or speculation?
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:41 AM
Jun 27

ecstatic

(34,851 posts)
7. No. Due to the sheer volume of crimes and abuses of power
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:28 AM
Jun 27

It seems that he'll never be held accountable. His biggest crime to date was the cutting/mishandling of the CDC and its satellite programs before and after covid. No one even thinks to blame him for that.

Now we're basically headed into the unknown with so many programs slashed without any understanding of what the programs were set up for. The fallout is going to be massive and millions will die. But I'm sure he'll escape blame again somehow.

Doodley

(11,179 posts)
20. I agree about the CDC. What is the biggest to me is cutting healthcare, overseas aid, cancer research, CDC, etc.--
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:49 AM
Jun 27

anything that may directly result in people dying--including myself as I will lose healthcare. But this is a worldwide story about lying about the damage done to Iran's nuclear program. That is as big of a lie as possible, and the truth will come out. I think it has the potential to explode. Trump has been rage-posting like never before over this, yelling at reporters and getting his angry mob to join in the fight. He doesn't need to do that over the CDC.

ecstatic

(34,851 posts)
28. True. Bibi is probably secretly furious as well
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 10:17 AM
Jun 27

He wants to continue bombing but how can he when trump says the nuclear program was obliterated?

Paladin

(31,013 posts)
8. I hope not.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jun 27

I won't be happy until trump's lies and wretched excesses get him and his filthy swine cabinet booted out of office. Can't happen soon enough to suit me---I just hope the country ends up surviving.

EarlG

(23,045 posts)
9. Not really, but...
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:30 AM
Jun 27

add it to the pile of things that are causing his approval ratings to crumble.

I think we've learned over the past ten years or so that there is no single scandal that will bring Trump down. But the further he goes, the less people like it. This was posted yesterday:

New poll..Trump is underwater on every issue..most underwater on deportations

• The military: 45% approve, 49% disapprove
• Foreign policy: 40% approve, 54% disapprove
• The Israel-Iran war: 39% approve, 53% disapprove
• Immigration: 41% approve, 57% disapprove
• Deportations: 39% approve, 59% disapprove
• The economy: 39% approve, 56% disapprove
• Trade: 38% approve, 55% disapprove

The survey of registered voters was conducted June 22-24 among 979 respondents with a ±3.1% margin of error.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220434805

Gore1FL

(22,547 posts)
16. Given the number of daily scandals and the number of days left in this idiotic term, I'm gonna say "no."
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:37 AM
Jun 27

Buckle-up.

Aristus

(70,392 posts)
21. No. Nothing sticks to him. Not even thirty-seven felony convictions.
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jun 27

He makes Teflon Ron Reagan look like a perpetual jail bird.

gab13by13

(28,821 posts)
22. It could have all been Kabuki Theater
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:51 AM
Jun 27

One has to be selective where one gets his news.

I listened to Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson say before the bombs were dropped that they would no way penetrate that mountain.

Kabuki Theater Act I

Putin owns Krasnov. Iran is an ally of Putin. Bibi owns Krasnov. Putin works out a deal with Iran and Krasnov to drop bombs on mountains in Iran. Iran moves its enriched uranium. Krasnov lies and claims total devastation of Iran's nuclear facilities, is seeking the Nobel Peace Prize. Iran continues enriching uranium.

Kabuki Theater Act II

Iran tells Krasnov when it is shooting missiles at our military bases so that no one is killed. Iran saves a little face. Bibi may have even been included in on the theater performance. The people of Israel are cheering for Bibi and Krasnov.

Kabuki Theater Act III

Putin can use Krasnov's invasion of Iran as an excuse for him to invade other countries. Xi can use it for an excuse to invade Taiwan.

Doodley

(11,179 posts)
23. All are possible, but at some point the truth will come out about the damage done, if not from our intelligence services
Fri Jun 27, 2025, 09:59 AM
Jun 27

then from another nation's intelligence.

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