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Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 10:27 AM Jun 29

Original New Dealer Wisdom



“The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it becomes stronger than their democratic State itself. That in its essence, is Fascism — ownership of government by an individual, by a group or by any controlling private power.”

— President Franklin D. Roosevelt
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Original New Dealer Wisdom (Original Post) Kid Berwyn Jun 29 OP
Kick bronxiteforever Jun 29 #1
Reaction to FDR and the New Deal Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #2
These rulings open the doors to many other undemocratic actions. erronis Jun 29 #11
This should have 500 recs malaise Jun 29 #3
One group violently opposed the New Deal Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #4
Ding ding malaise Jun 29 #6
The NAZI Hydra in Fascist America Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #7
+1 dalton99a Jun 29 #13
Yep. My grandmother called him 'that wild-eyed radical' many times in conversation. OldBaldy1701E Jun 29 #14
Interesting, my grandma thought he was A-okay because of Medicare and social security. 1WorldHope Jun 29 #21
Mine were not either. (TRIGGER WARNING: Suicide) OldBaldy1701E Jun 29 #23
"Everything old is new again" llmart Jun 29 #16
He understood unchecked power. Passages Jun 29 #19
It should. nt RandomNumbers Jun 29 #5
Money for Power. Power to protect Money. Slaves to do the work... Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #12
Too many don't see their plan malaise Jun 29 #25
Ja, der Fuehrer ist orange. Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #32
k and r BoRaGard Jun 29 #8
Today "GOP" is the NAZI brand Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #28
K&R orangecrush Jun 29 #9
Trump MAGANAZI have not been held to account. Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #29
The billionaires and corporations have been stealing our democracy dlk Jun 29 #10
Then, it is time to poke that eye out. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Jun 29 #15
Couldn't agree more dlk Jun 29 #37
Testimony the Dickstein Committee Suppressed Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #30
I'll add a reminder for those who will see the next deal Warpy Jun 29 #17
Those are the facts. And the idle rich hire all the help they need. Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #34
Do not underestimate the power and leverage of the consumer dollar. Without consumer spending, Hotler Jun 30 #44
Nah, this is the end game Warpy Jun 30 #54
Praise the heavens and Eleanor and Frances, etc., that he was a "traitor to his class"... RobertDevereaux Jun 29 #18
Getting Stalin to go along was a stroke of genius. Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #35
KNR niyad Jun 29 #20
You know who else didn't like freedom of the press? Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #36
K&R nt pazzyanne Jun 29 #22
Project 2025 is MAGA for "Mein Kampf" Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #38
Dems will either revisit the New Deal, update it malaise Jun 29 #24
Trump never said a word to Tim Walz. Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #39
Not an effin word malaise Jun 29 #41
The Green New Deal thought crime Jun 30 #53
Agree malaise Jun 30 #55
Kick RandomNumbers Jun 29 #26
Project 2025 is NAZI Kid Berwyn Jun 29 #40
Yup Magoo48 Jun 29 #27
Hitler Pardoned His Goons Too Kid Berwyn Jun 30 #46
FDR was one of them by birth, but not one of them by spirit. FDR for the people, all the people. Clouds Passing Jun 29 #31
The Roosevelt Institute Kid Berwyn Jun 30 #47
Way recommended. H2O Man Jun 29 #33
FDR Thought ALL Americans Entitled to the Economic Bill of Rights Kid Berwyn Jun 30 #48
Ding! Ding! Ding! . . . TRUTH! liberalla Jun 30 #42
Unlike the world's royalty, FDR would never leave another behind. Kid Berwyn Jun 30 #49
Nazis control our federal government brought to you by capitalism Farmer-Rick Jun 30 #43
Evolution of The Feudalist Society Kid Berwyn Jun 30 #50
Kicking. nt Hotler Jun 30 #45
REMEMBER: Chief Just-Us John Roberts enabled the Nazification of the United States of America Kid Berwyn Jun 30 #51
FDR ILikePie92 Jun 30 #52
GOP and NAZIs go way back. Kid Berwyn Jul 1 #56
Truth! nt Prairie_Seagull Jul 1 #57
The Nixon-Bush NAZI Connection Kid Berwyn Jul 1 #58
On it. Prairie_Seagull Jul 1 #59

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
2. Reaction to FDR and the New Deal
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 10:54 AM
Jun 29
The Supreme Court’s Role in Undermining American Democracy

(The Roberts Court specifically…)

Voting Rights
Partisan Gerrymandering
Campaign Finance

https://campaignlegal.org/sites/default/files/2022-07/CLC%202022%20SCOTUS%20Report_072022%20%281%29.pdf

erronis

(20,770 posts)
11. These rulings open the doors to many other undemocratic actions.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 11:57 AM
Jun 29

Basically stripping away the one person, one vote goal.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
4. One group violently opposed the New Deal
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jun 29
Why is so little known about the 1930s coup attempt against FDR?

Business leaders like JP Morgan and Irénée du Pont were accused by a retired major general of plotting to install a fascist dictator


by Sally Denton
The Guardian, Tue 11 Jan 2022

Donald Trump’s elaborate plot to overthrow the democratically elected president was neither impulsive nor uncoordinated, but straight out of the playbook of another American coup attempt – the 1933 “Wall Street putsch” against newly elected Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

America had hit rock bottom, beginning with the stock market crash three years earlier. Unemployment was at 16 million and rising. Farm foreclosures exceeded half a million. More than five thousand banks had failed, and hundreds of thousands of families had lost their homes. Financial capitalists had bilked millions of customers and rigged the market. There were no government safety nets – no unemployment insurance, minimum wage, social security or Medicare.

Economic despair gave rise to panic and unrest, and political firebrands and white supremacists eagerly fanned the paranoia of socialism, global conspiracies and threats from within the country. Populists Huey Long and Father Charles Coughlin attacked FDR, spewing vitriolic anti-Jewish, pro-fascist refrains and brandishing the “America first” slogan coined by media magnate William Randolph Hearst.

On 4 March 1933, more than 100,000 people had gathered on the east side of the US Capitol for Roosevelt’s inauguration. The atmosphere was slate gray and ominous, the sky suggesting a calm before the storm. That morning, rioting was expected in cities throughout the nation, prompting predictions of a violent revolution. Army machine guns and sharpshooters were placed at strategic locations along the route. Not since the civil war had Washington been so fortified, with armed police guarding federal buildings.

FDR thought government in a civilized society had an obligation to abolish poverty, reduce unemployment, and redistribute wealth. Roosevelt’s bold New Deal experiments inflamed the upper class, provoking a backlash from the nation’s most powerful bankers, industrialists and Wall Street brokers, who thought the policy was not only radical but revolutionary. Worried about losing their personal fortunes to runaway government spending, this fertile field of loathing led to the “traitor to his class” epithet for FDR. “What that fellow Roosevelt needs is a 38-caliber revolver right at the back of his head,” a respectable citizen said at a Washington dinner party.

Continues…

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jan/11/trump-fdr-roosevelt-coup-attempt-1930s

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
7. The NAZI Hydra in Fascist America
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 11:30 AM
Jun 29
The Nazi Hydra In Fascist America

by Glen Yeadon and John Hawkins

Excerpt…

Some readers will undoubtedly find the Nazi Hydra disturbing. They shudder at
reports of another Nazi war criminal being deported and the crimes against humanity
that he inflicted onto others. They fear to ask the question how such a person could
slip into the country or how many more are present. Others may be livid with anger
as the Nazi Hydra details the associations of the Republican Party and past
presidents: Nixon, Ford, Bush and Reagan with Nazi war criminals. But history
cannot be rewritten and it's a story that must be told. Those that aided Nazi war
criminals are no less guilty of crimes against humanity than any of the Nazi war
criminals and need be held fully accountable at the end of a hangman's rope at
Nuremberg

In tracing the roots of fascism from the 1920s to the present the one aspect that
I find the most amazing is how small the click of hard core Nazis supporters is. The
truth is fascism in America revolves around a handful of Wall Street firms and
leading American families. One name above all others in steering the country towards
full-blown fascism stands out above all others: Bush. For over seventy years and three
generations the Bush family has been hard core supporters and advocates of fascism.

With the record of the current Bush regime a short excerpt from the first leaflet
of the White Rose Society, a small group of students who dared to oppose Hitler and
the Nazis bears repeating.

"Nothing is so unworthy of a civilized nation as allowing itself to be governed
without opposition by an irresponsible clique that has yielded to base instinct. Who
among us has any conception of the dimensions of shame that will befall us and our
children when one day the veil has fallen from our eyes and the most horrible of
crimes - crimes that infinitely out-distance every human measure - reach the light of
day?"


Who will survive to bear witness this time?

Continues…

https://archive.org/stream/pdfy-kRjTPUdAxESumEWq/The%20Nazi%20Hydra%20In%20America%20%5BHow%20America%27s%20Right%20Wing%20Politicians%20Are%20Plunging%20The%20Country%20Into%20A%20Fascist%20Police%20State%5D_djvu.txt

OldBaldy1701E

(8,480 posts)
14. Yep. My grandmother called him 'that wild-eyed radical' many times in conversation.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jun 29

She was less than enthused when she learned that I see him as the greatest president since Washington and a hero of mine.

1WorldHope

(1,483 posts)
21. Interesting, my grandma thought he was A-okay because of Medicare and social security.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 12:48 PM
Jun 29

My grandparents were not lazy suckers of society. They were farmers who grew old, the farmstead was destroyed, except for the house, by a tornado. They moved the house onto town and were probably living off rental to other farmers. But no health insurance for sure. My grandpa lived to be 105. They sold the farm and used every penny for a nursing home after my grandma had a stroke. But he wouldn't have had the farm of it had not been handed down from parents and grandparent's who got the land from the homestead act. That land was technically stolen from native America. What a tangled web we have woven.

OldBaldy1701E

(8,480 posts)
23. Mine were not either. (TRIGGER WARNING: Suicide)
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 01:15 PM
Jun 29

My grandfather was the president of the local bank. He shot himself in a field outside of town because he was too nice and loaned money to people who did him wrong and did not pay it back. He knew the bank auditors were coming and that was his solution. I was raised to believe he had died in a hunting accident.

My grandmother was head of the county Social Services for decades. She did her job well. Even as she had her own... eccentricities. But, she retired from that job and to this day is considered one of the best people to have occupied her position.

Passages

(3,402 posts)
19. He understood unchecked power.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 12:42 PM
Jun 29

10 million lost their homes under the 2008 crash, but Jamie Dimon was not even indicted.

If you do not disassociate from power like that, they essentially have their lawyers write the legislation...for their favor.


Not from The Onion:


Fortune
https://fortune.com › 2024/08/23 › jamie-dimon-kamal...
Aug 23, 2024 — JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon is being floated by both the Harris and Trump campaigns for a Treasury position. Getty Images—Bloomberg.





Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
12. Money for Power. Power to protect Money. Slaves to do the work...
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 12:01 PM
Jun 29

Feudalist Society! Come on down!!!!





Leaked emails reveal Trump aide Stephen Miller’s fascist politics

by Trévon Austin
World Socialist Web Site, 15 November 2019

A collection of emails published by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) show Stephen Miller, White House senior adviser in charge of immigration policy, espousing racist views and promoting white supremacist and neo-Nazi publications prior to his joining the Trump administration.

The SPLC published a summary of more than 900 emails between Miller and Katie McHugh, a former editor at Breitbart News, between March 4, 2015 and June 27, 2016. The emails show how Miller attempted to guide Breitbart’s news coverage along racist channels, sending links to websites that promote the myth of “white genocide,” i.e., the claim that the world’s white population is being systematically “replaced” by non-white populations.

The theme of the “Great Replacement” pervades the manifestos and rhetoric of fascist terrorists, such as mass murderer Brenton Tarrant, who shot and killed 51 people at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand last March. The neo-Nazis who attacked anti-fascist demonstrators, killing one, and held a torchlight parade in Charlottesville, Virginia in August 2017 chanted “Jews will not replace us!” Trump notoriously said the fascists included “very fine people.”

McHugh was fired by Breitbart in 2017 and subsequently broke from the far-right milieu. According to her, Breitbart officials, then including former Trump campaign chairman and White House aide Stephen Bannon, introduced her to Miller in 2015 with an understanding that he would influence the direction of the publication’s reporting.

According to the SPLC, more than 80 percent of the emails deal with race and immigration. The material in them includes references and links to neo-Nazi websites, xenophobic conspiracy theories, allusions to a racist novel in which Indian men rape white women, and US immigration policies in the early 20th century praised by Adolf Hitler in his Mein Kampf.

Continues...

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/11/15/mill-n15.html



So today, the White House serves to implement NAZI ideas in the United States of America.

Project 2025 is Mein Kampf for MAGA.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
32. Ja, der Fuehrer ist orange.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 04:08 PM
Jun 29
The Ghost of Adolph Hitler

Nazi Influence in America


by John Stanton
Dissident Voice
October 21, 2003

Here it is 2003, and the ghost of the notorious Nazi Adolph Hitler haunts America. He’s in the White House in Washington, DC and the governor’s mansion in Sacramento, California. He roams the halls of the George C. Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama. His Nazi minions Arthur Rudolph and Werner Von Braun provided the know-how to put American astronauts on the moon and nuclear warheads into space. Rudolph, according to reporter Linda Hunt, was guilty of war crimes in WWII. “In 1969, Americans cheered as our astronauts took their first steps onto the moon. The giant rocket that blasted them into space was Rudolph's crowning achievement as NASA's project director for Saturn V. Fifteen years later, Rudolph relinquished his U.S. citizenship and left the country rather than face Justice Department charges that he had committed war crimes while working in an underground factory that had used Dora Concentration Camp prisoners as slave labor.”

Americans should find it a bit unsettling that their presence on the moon and the space-based military dominance they enjoy was built, in good measure, on the backs of 6,000 human beings who would ultimately be executed by the Nazi SS in the Spring of 1945. According to Hunt, exactly 40 years after the liberation of Dora, in April 1985, the Alabama Space and Rocket Museum paid tribute to 40 Germans who stood surrounded by the press, in front of old V-2s and the Saturn V Rocket they helped build for the United States. There is no monument to the Dora Concentration Camp. Why? Americans do not wish to be reminded of what WWII French Resistance leader, and Dora prisoner, Jean Michel said about the day that U.S. astronauts first walked on the moon, "I could not watch the Apollo mission without remembering that that triumphant walk was made possible by our initiation to inconceivable horror."

Hitler’s influence is everywhere in America.

Nazi Know-How and the CIA

Hitler’s ghost occupies the hallowed ground of the US Central Intelligence Agency. General Reinhard Gehlen was Hitler’s top Soviet spy during WWII and was recruited by Allen Dulles, the first director of the CIA. According to Martin Lee, writing in the San Francisco Bay Guardian, Gehlen returned to West Germany in the summer of 1946 with a mandate to rebuild his espionage organization and resume spying on the East at the behest of American intelligence. That date is significant as it preceded the onset of the Cold War, which, according to standard U.S. historical accounts, did not begin until a year later, according to Lee. The early courtship of Gehlen by American intelligence suggests that Washington was in a Cold War mode sooner than most people realize. The Gehlen gambit also belies the prevalent Western notion that aggressive Soviet policies were primarily to blame for triggering the Cold War.

CONTINUED...

http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles9/Stanton_Hitlers-Ghost.htm

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
28. Today "GOP" is the NAZI brand
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 03:33 PM
Jun 29
Russ Belant reminds us:



OLD NAZIS, THE NEW RIGHT, AND THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
BY RUSS BELLANT


BOSTON: SOUTH END PRESS, 1991. 148 PP. $11.00 (PAPER).

While the "Reagan Revolution" made it popular in the United States once again to be openly discriminatory, neofascist thinking is presently burgeoning among the extreme right in this country. Russ Bellant, in his important book Old Nazis, the New Right, and the Republican Party, exposes the roots and growth of domestic fascist networks, which include Nazi collaborators, within the Republican Party. He reveals how such members, during the Reagan era, held positions of power on the Republican Ethnic Heritage Groups Council, an ethnic outreach division of the GOP. Bellant also scrutinizes the American Security Council for its participation in anti-Semitic and racist practices under the guise of anticommunism.

It seems to me that any educator, or any citizen for that matter, interested in protecting what is left of democracy in this country needs to engage this type of research. For those who are skeptical of Bellant's conclusions, they can either take the word of Allan A. Ryan Jr. — the former Director of the Office of Special Investigations for the Department of Justice — who says on the book's cover that it is "Well-documented and reliable," or they can begin to do some research of their own — which is what education for a responsible citizenry is supposed to be all about!

Source: https://www.hepg.org/her-home/issues/harvard-educational-review-volume-65-issue-1/herbooknote/old-nazis,-the-new-right,-and-the-republican-party



Old Nazis, New Right, and the Republican Party: Domestic Fascist Networks and Their Effect on U.S. Cold War Politics. by Russ Bellant (PDF)

https://www.russbellant.us/Bellant-Old_Nazis_the_New_Right_and_the_Republican_Party.pdf

It’s important to label them for what they are: NAZIs. If more writers and editors, and publishers and broadcasters, had the guts back in Reagan’s day, we wouldn’t be in the mess we’re in today.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
29. Trump MAGANAZI have not been held to account.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 03:42 PM
Jun 29

So, they continued to spread the Big Lie 2021-2024 and the false belief that Drumpf was cheated continued to grow until they launched their next uh madministration.



Enabling a Fascist Putsch and Empowering a Big Lie

BY WERNER LANGE
CounterPunch, Jan. 15, 2021

January 6, like December 7 eighty years earlier, will forever live in history as a day of infamy. Yet unlike the foreign military attack on the US base in Pearl Harbor in 1941, the domestic terrorist attack upon the US Capitol in 2021 enjoyed the objective support of nearly one-third of the US Congress and vast sections of the US population. “Stop the Steal”, the rallying cry of the violent mob which invaded and ransacked the US Capitol was officially echoed by 147 members of Congress, all Republicans, later on that infamous day and trumpeted loudly throughout the land for months by none other than the President of the United States and his regime. Fascism in America reared its ugly head almost simultaneously at the top and bottom of the power hierarchy on January 6, 2021. And its decapitation is nowhere in sight.

There was, of course, no realistic possibility that this dramatic and diabolical last ditch effort would succeed. Over 50 failed lawsuits and negative rulings by some 80 different judges have secured the legitimacy and integrity of the November election results in the eyes of the law, but not in the polluted minds of Trump’s enablers in Congress and his rabid followers in the public. In fact, with each successive filed and failed lawsuit, the conviction of a stolen, not lost, election took greater hold of greater numbers of those 70 million citizens who voted for Trump. According to a nationwide survey conducted just prior to the November election, about 65% of the registered voters (whether Republican, Democrat or Independent) all agreed that they trusted the US election system. By late December that trust had risen to 80% among Democrats, but plummeted to 45% and 30% among Independents and Republicans, respectively. Similarly, by year’s end, 90% of Democrats said the 2020 presidential election was free and fair, while only 28% of Republicans agreed. In mid-November 27% of Republican voters said Trump should never concede, whereas by late December 36% held that position. In other words, there is a direct positive correlation between the number of lawsuits filed challenging the election results and the number of Americans, primarily Republicans, who firmly believe that the election was stolen.

So. what was the real purpose of this bizarre parade of DOA lawsuits? It was not to overturn the election results. It was to convince increasing number of Trump supporters to embrace the Big Lie that the election was stolen and that a Biden presidency is illegitimate. The manifest function of these frivolous lawsuits was an abysmal failure, but their latent and real function proved to be a resounding success.

And therein lies the ongoing and growing danger.

At his “Save America” rally in front of the White House, Trump not only openly incited the violence that followed at the US Capitol that fateful day, but more ominously he declared that “today is not the end, it’s only the beginning” and that “for our movement…the best is yet to come”. That movement is a fascist one. He and his enablers in the suites of Congress and his cult followers in the streets of America are hell-bent on creating a fascist America in the future.

The effort and tactic are not without historical precedent. One of the Big Lies effectively used by fascist forces and assorted masters of deceit in Weimar Germany was that of the “dolchstoss”, the “stab-in-the-back” that unpatriotic liberals and a corrupt ruling elite supposedly inflicted upon the German people causing a great nation to lose WWI. Those alternative facts launched by an effective propaganda enterprise helped pave the path toward the Third Reich. That Big Lie then, like the stolen election lie now, resonated among vast sections of an angry and frustrated populace. Stable governments rest upon the secure foundation of the consent of the governed, something that the Biden Administration lacks in the minds of tens of millions of Americans who are absolutely convinced his presidency is illegitimate, and that they were, in effect, stabbed in the back by a rigged election controlled by liberals and traitors. Those behind the “Stop the Steal” effort have officially, as of January 6, lost the battle; but they are more determined than ever to win the ongoing domestic war.

Continues...

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/01/15/enabling-a-fascist-putsch-and-empowering-a-big-lie/



Q: What do fascists call a failed putsch?

A: Practice.

dlk

(12,804 posts)
10. The billionaires and corporations have been stealing our democracy
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 11:48 AM
Jun 29

We are looking at fascism square in the eye.

Warpy

(113,746 posts)
17. I'll add a reminder for those who will see the next deal
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 12:35 PM
Jun 29

No rich man ever gave a poor man a job unless there were a lot of other poor men with money in their pockets, waiting to buy what that job would produce.

They're not job creators. We are.

Hotler

(13,364 posts)
44. Do not underestimate the power and leverage of the consumer dollar. Without consumer spending,
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:36 AM
Jun 30

they have no money flow. Shut the spending down, necessities only. Screw the banks, cut back on credit card use.

Warpy

(113,746 posts)
54. Nah, this is the end game
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jun 30

which means they no longer have to sell goods or services to inflate their billions. They're doing that by accounting tricks and by the simple fact that money attracts money. Billionaires are so far removed from the world of grubby trade that they barely remember that's what made them billionaires. They think in terms of divisions and/or whole companies, not people.

The crash might be coming sooner rather than later, it looks like King SuetBall isn't going to back down on hius stupid tariffs on all offshore goods. A huge dip in consumer spending won't do it, that's just a symptom. What will do it is cratering the market for treasury bills, and that market is already wobbly.

So what can we ordinary people do? Not much beyond prioritizing and waiting for the dust to clear.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
35. Getting Stalin to go along was a stroke of genius.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 05:23 PM
Jun 29

Lend-Lease and all that jazz.

We the People Won World War 2 because of FDR's Wisdom.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
36. You know who else didn't like freedom of the press?
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 05:41 PM
Jun 29
'It's coming': Trump's new warning to reporters escalates fears in the press

by Ailia Zehra
Alternet, June 29, 2025

President Donald Trump, in an interview on Fox News aired Sunday, warned of efforts to hold reporters and Democratic figures accountable for allegedly leaking classified intelligence.

When host Maria Bartiromo pointed to Trump's recent social media posts critizing media outlets that reported on an intelligence assessment that Iran's nuclear program was not "obliterated" in recent U.S. strikes, Trump said, “They should be prosecuted.”

“Who specifically?” the anchor asked.

Trump outlined an assertive plan: “We can find out. You go up and tell the reporter, 'national security, who gave it?' You have to do that. And I suspect we'll be doing things like that.”

Continues...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/it-s-coming-trump-s-new-warning-to-reporters-escalates-fears-in-the-press/ar-AA1HDYyt

Two of the same coins of censorship: MAGA and NAZI.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
38. Project 2025 is MAGA for "Mein Kampf"
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 08:46 PM
Jun 29

Project 2025 is a product of The Heritage Foundation, a NAZI Stink-Tank chock full of Ed Meese types. Buddy of Reagan from their California KKK governor days, Meese helped usher in more than 40 years of Trickle Down Economics to achieve full-spectrum dominance of evil. But I digress. He HATES Civil Rights. He and his fiends in power are why the United States today is poised to go NAZI.



Bell Book Says Officials Told Racist Jokes : Reagan Aide Says He Doubts Claim by Ex-Education Secretary

October 21, 1987|Associated Press

WASHINGTON — President Reagan's first secretary of education says mid-level Administration officials made racist jokes and other scurrilous remarks during civil rights discussions, but Reagan's chief spokesman said Tuesday he does not believe it.

Terrel H. Bell, in a memoir of Reagan's first term, said the slurs included references to the late Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. as "Martin Lucifer Coon" and calling Title IX, a federal law guaranteeing women equal educational opportunity, "the lesbian's bill of rights."

SNIP...

Bell did not identify those who made the racist or scurrilous comments. He could not be reached for further comment.

In his book, he says the jokes about King were made as Reagan was deciding whether to sign or veto a bill establishing King's birthday as a national holiday. He eventually signed it.

Bell said: "I do not mean to imply that these scurrilous remarks were common utterances in the rooms and corridors of the White House and the Old Executive Office Building, but I heard them when issues related to civil rights enforcement weighed heavily on my mind."

Bell added: "It seemed obvious they were said for my benefit, since they often accompanied sardonic references to 'Comrade Bell.' "

CONTINUED...

http://articles.latimes.com/1987-10-21/news/mn-9912_1_racist-jokes

malaise

(287,204 posts)
24. Dems will either revisit the New Deal, update it
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 01:19 PM
Jun 29

or die.
And if you think the fascists are afraid to kill Dems, dream on.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
39. Trump never said a word to Tim Walz.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 08:50 PM
Jun 29

"A waste of time," the wastrel called his refusal to offer condolences, let alone condemn violence.

Through absolute evil incompetence and all manner of treason, Trump is making a big mistake. He thinks he's putting on a show.

HE. WILL. STAND. TRIAL.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
40. Project 2025 is NAZI
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 08:55 PM
Jun 29

The fascists don’t think We the People will notice what they in the Turd Reich are doing. Professor Heather Cox Richardson has. And she makes clear how the movement to change the United States represents an effort to end democracy at home and around the world.





Project 2025 Leader Working to Implement Policies of Putin Ally: Professor

by Flynn Nicholls
Newsweek, July 2024

Kevin Roberts, the president of the Heritage Foundation, is working to implement the policies of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán to institutionalize Trumpism, an analyst and professor wrote on Thursday.

Snip…

Heather Cox Richardson, a history professor at Boston College, joined the growing chorus of analysts criticizing Roberts' comments and policy proposals as being authoritarian. In Letters From an American, her Substack blog, she discussed Roberts' close affiliation with the regime of Orbán, Hungary's strongman leader and Russian President Vladimir Putin's closest ally in NATO and the European Union.

Snip…

Orbán is a hard-line anti-immigration Euroskeptic who regularly expresses sympathy for Russia. Like Donald Trump's campaign, Orbán has described George Soros, a Hungarian-born Jewish billionaire, as a puppet master controlling the global political left. In 2022, Orbán's party won a decisive fourth consecutive term, running on a platform that Hungary, the EU and NATO should not be involved in the Russia-Ukraine war.

Snip…

The Heritage Foundation has long admired Orbán. In a 2022 interview with Hungarian Conservative, Roberts said, "Modern Hungary is not just a model for conservative statecraft, but the model." In 2023, Roberts brought the Heritage Foundation into formal partnership with the Danube Institute, a conservative think tank funded by Orbán's government.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/news/content/ar-BB1ptiAS



For those interested: Project 2025 is MAGA for "Mein Kampf," a blueprint for installing fascist and quasi-Christian form of government where Trump is king and We the People are his serfs. The Turd Reich's pols term it a “Second American Revolution” (along with their pals on SCOTUS and Congress). They aim to transform the power in the Constitution from “We the People” to “Me the Donald.” And like once-pee-resident Donald J Trump, they have betrayed the Constitution.



Project 2025 decried as racist. Some contributors have trail of racist writings, activity

They include Richard Hanania, whose pseudonymous writings for white supremacist sites were uncovered last year.


by Will Carless
USA TODAY, July 29, 2024

Excerpt...

“Really, it's kind of a white supremacist manifesto,” said Michael Harriot, a writer and historian who wrote an article earlier this month titled: “I read the entire Project 2025. Here are the top 10 ways it would harm Black America.”

And a closer look at the named contributors to Project 2025 adds to the concern: A USA TODAY analysis found at least five of them have a history of racist writing or statements, or white supremacist activity.

They include Richard Hanania, who for years wrote racist essays for white supremacist publications under a pseudonym until he was unmasked by a Huffington Post investigation last year.

Failed Virginia GOP Senate candidate Corey Stewart, another named contributor, has long associated with white supremacists and calls himself a protector of America’s Confederate history tasked with “taking back our heritage.”

One Project 2025 contributor wrote in his PhD dissertation that immigrants have lower IQs than white native citizens, leading to “underclass behavior.” Another dropped out of contention for a prestigious role at the Federal Reserve amid controversy over a racist joke about the Obamas.

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2024/07/29/project-2025-racist-writing/74567007007/



PBS video confirmation of the above:

Go near the end and he's talking about "liquid gold -- gasoline, oil -- under our feet" when an interlocuter says, "Project 2025," and someone else says, "I think we have to leave it there by the Trump team." Then he stops talking and shakes hands with the woman I believe he earlier had called, "Harris."



Never got to hear dimdonnie the traitor's reply. CIABCNNBCBSFakeNoiseNutwerks might want to share the news before the election: Trump is fascist to the core, had they not been part of the problem.




Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
46. Hitler Pardoned His Goons Too
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:57 AM
Jun 30


Trump’s Actions' Parallels with Germany 1935

by Harry Litman, Jan 23, 2025

Released from long sentences for seditious conspiracy by the mercy of Donald Trump, the leaders of the January 6 insurrection are flush with triumph and vengeful purpose. Enrique Tarrio, the leader of the Proud Boys whom Trump pardoned for his 22-year sentence, proclaimed, “The people who did this, they need to feel the heat. They need to be put behind bars, and they need to be prosecuted. Success is going to be retribution.” Oath Keeper founder Stewart Rhodes, sentenced to 18 years, lobbied for full pardons for the 14 offenders, including himself, who received only commutations. He left jail a free man and immediately sketched out his plan to investigate police witnesses and prosecutors “on up the chain.”

Tarrio added, with perhaps the most inappropriate words ever spoken by a pardoned convict: “Now it’s our turn.”

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But it took Hitler some time to completely displace the political system in Germany. Early in the Nazi regime, existing members of the judiciary and legal professionals still tried to uphold and enforce the law. Many turned a blind eye to the SA’s crimes, including a series of gruesome murders of Nazi opponents, even as they attempted to assert some of their traditional prosecutorial powers.

It was the abuses at Hohnstein Concentration Camp—an early detention center for communists and other political prisoners—that were too savage and notorious to ignore. In 1935, local prosecutors brought 23 SA guards at the camp to trial on charges of torture and brutal mistreatment, including widespread “suiciding” of prisoners. The SA defendants were all convicted and sentenced to prison.

Within a year, they were all out, released on Hitler’s orders. After the trial, senior Nazi officials demanded their release and acquittal. Then, in November 1935, Hitler pardoned every last one of the convicted men. It was a brutal demonstration of his domination of the judiciary and a key benchmark in his complete conquest of the rule of law in Germany—one that paved the way for his unchecked rule and thirst for world domination.

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https://harrylitman.substack.com/p/hitler-pardoned-his-goons-too

Clouds Passing

(5,430 posts)
31. FDR was one of them by birth, but not one of them by spirit. FDR for the people, all the people.
Sun Jun 29, 2025, 04:04 PM
Jun 29

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
47. The Roosevelt Institute
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:00 AM
Jun 30
People who understand what "We the People" really mean...

Drawing on the legacy of Franklin and Eleanor Roosevelt, the Roosevelt Institute champions new ideas and new leaders to make our economy and democracy work for the many, not the few.

https://rooseveltinstitute.org/

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
48. FDR Thought ALL Americans Entitled to the Economic Bill of Rights
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 10:59 AM
Jun 30

On January 11, 1944, in the midst of World War II, President Roosevelt spoke forcefully and eloquently about the greater meaning and higher purpose of American security in a post-war America. The principles and ideas conveyed by FDR's words matter as much now as they did over sixty years ago, and the Franklin D. Roosevelt American Heritage Center is proud to reprint a selection of FDR's vision for the security and economic liberty of the American people in war and peace.

“The Economic Bill of Rights”

Excerpt from President Roosevelt's January 11, 1944 message to the Congress of the United States on the State of the Union

It is our duty now to begin to lay the plans and determine the strategy for the winning of a lasting peace and the establishment of an American standard of living higher than ever before known. We cannot be content, no matter how high that general standard of living may be, if some fraction of our people—whether it be one-third or one-fifth or one-tenth—is ill-fed, ill-clothed, ill-housed, and insecure.

This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness.

We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence. “Necessitous men are not free men.” People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made.

In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job in the industries or shops or farms or mines of the nation;

The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment;

The right to a good education.


All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being.

America’s own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for our citizens.

Source: The Public Papers & Addresses of Franklin D. Roosevelt (Samuel Rosenman, ed.), Vol XIII (NY: Harper, 1950), 40-42

12 How. 152: “Necessitous men,” says the Lord Chancellor, in Vernon v Bethell, 2 Eden 113 (1762), “are not, truly speaking, free men; but, to answer a present emergency, will submit to any terms that the crafty may impose on them.”

SOURCE: http://www.fdrheritage.org/bill_of_rights.htm

FDR woulda won a fifth term.

liberalla

(10,620 posts)
42. Ding! Ding! Ding! . . . TRUTH!
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 12:38 AM
Jun 30

Excellent post!

I wish I'd seen this earlier, but I'm late getting on DU today.
Thank you!

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
49. Unlike the world's royalty, FDR would never leave another behind.
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 11:04 AM
Jun 30


An indolent un-person ask for a hand-out as the pauper trots alongside the carriage carrying an embarrassed King George V and his party of idle swells.

Farmer-Rick

(11,887 posts)
43. Nazis control our federal government brought to you by capitalism
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 09:35 AM
Jun 30

How did these Nazis get sooooo much money? And yes it's the money first then the power. Because in capitalism money IS power. And lots of stolen loot, is lots of power.

Mostly the gradual disappearance of inheritance tax led to more and more wealth being accumulated by people who picked wombs of the filthy rich to be born into.Then they leverage that into more and more tax cuts, deregulation so that commerce in the US is one giant con. And there are no controls on wealth.

Capitalism and democracy are Not compatible. Every democratic country that went 100% unregulated capitalism has had a slide into fascism.

Until we go at least 30% socialist, in our economic structure, the Nazis will strangle you with their money.

Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
51. REMEMBER: Chief Just-Us John Roberts enabled the Nazification of the United States of America
Mon Jun 30, 2025, 11:17 AM
Jun 30
John Roberts' Secret Trump Memo Revealed in Huge SCOTUS Leak

by Corbin Bolies
Daily Beast, September 15, 2024

The Supreme Court was hit by a flurry of damaging new leaks Sunday as a series of confidential memos written by the chief justice were revealed by The New York Times. The court’s Chief Justice John Roberts was clear to his fellow justices in February: He wanted the court to take up a case weighing Donald Trump’s right to presidential immunity—and he seemed inclined to protect the former president.

“I think it likely that we will view the separation of powers analysis differently,” Roberts wrote to his Supreme Court peers, according to a private memo obtained by the Times. He was referencing the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals’ decision to allow the case to move forward. Roberts took an unusual level of involvement in this and other cases that ultimately benefited Trump, according to the Times—his handling of the cases surprised even some other justices on the high court, across ideological lines. As president, Trump appointed three of the members of its current conservative supermajority.

Such was the case in March that debated whether Colorado, or any state, had the authority to remove an official from a federal ballot. Roberts persuaded the other justices to make their opinion—that states could not unilaterally drop a federal candidate from the ballot—unsigned to authoritatively signal their unanimity, according to the Times.

The judges agreed, until the conservatives sought to include an additional proposition that mandated anyone seeking to enforce the Constitution’s ban on insurrectionist candidates get congressional approval. Four justices—Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Ketanji Brown Jackson, and Amy Coney Barrett—thought that idea went too far, and wrote concurrences in disagreement. Roberts himself wrote the majority opinion. Roberts also took charge of the court’s ruling that declared the government went too far in charging those who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6.

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/john-roberts-secret-trump-memo-revealed-in-huge-scotus-leak?ref=home?ref=home

Thanks to BumRushDaShow:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10143307306


Kid Berwyn

(21,536 posts)
56. GOP and NAZIs go way back.
Tue Jul 1, 2025, 09:49 AM
Jul 1
The CIA’s Worst-Kept Secret:

Newly Declassified Files Confirm United States Collaboration with Nazis

Pried loose by Congress, which passed the Nazi War Crimes Disclosure Act three years ago, a long-hidden trove of once-classified CIA documents confirms one of the worst-kept secrets of the cold war--the CIA's use of an extensive Nazi spy network to wage a clandestine war on the Soviet Union and other leftist movements


May 1, 2001
Martin A. Lee
Originally in Foreign Policy In Focus

“Honest and idealist … enjoys good food and wine … unprejudiced mind …”

That’s how a 1952 Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) assessment described Nazi ideologue Emil Augsburg, an officer at the infamous Wannsee Institute, the SS think tank involved in planning the Final Solution. Augsburg’s SS unit performed “special duties,” a euphemism for exterminating Jews and other “undesirables” during the Second World War.

Although he was wanted in Poland for war crimes, Augsburg managed to ingratiate himself with the U.S. CIA, which employed him in the late 1940s as an expert on Soviet affairs. Recently released CIA records indicate that Augsburg was among a rogue’s gallery of Nazi war criminals recruited by U.S. intelligence agencies shortly after Germany surrendered to the Allies.

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“The real winners of the cold war were Nazi war criminals, many of whom were able to escape justice because the East and West became so rapidly focused after the war on challenging each other,” says Eli Rosenbaum, director of the Justice Department’s Office of Special Investigations and America’s chief Nazi hunter. Rosenbaum serves on a Clinton-appointed Interagency Working Group (IWG) committee of U.S. scholars, public officials, and former intelligence officers who helped prepare the CIA records for declassification.

Many Nazi criminals “received light punishment, no punishment at all, or received compensation because Western spy agencies considered them useful assets in the cold war,” the IWG team stated after releasing 18,000 pages of redacted CIA material. (More installments are pending.)

These are “not just dry historical documents,” insists former congresswoman Elizabeth Holtzman, a member of the panel examining the CIA files. As far as Holtzman is concerned, the CIA papers raise critical questions about American foreign policy and the origins of the cold war.

The decision to recruit Nazi operatives had a negative impact on U.S.-Soviet relations and set the stage for Washington’s tolerance of human rights abuses and other criminal acts in the name of anti-Communism. With that fateful sub-rosa embrace, the die was cast for a litany of antidemocratic CIA interventions around the world.

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https://ips-dc.org/the_cias_worst-kept_secret_newly_declassified_files_confirm_united_states_collaboration_with_nazis/

Most Importantly: A hearty welcome to DU, ILikePie92! I really think the world of people who appreciate FDR.
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