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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAOC: "I don't think anyone is prepared for what they just did w/ ICE."
I dont think anyone is prepared for what they just did w/ ICE.
This is not a simple budget increase. It is an explosion - making ICE bigger than the FBI, US Bureau of Prisons, DEA,& others combined.
It is setting up to make whats happening now look like childs play. And people are disappearing.
I donât think anyone is prepared for what they just did w/ ICE.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@aoc.bsky.social) 2025-07-03T18:58:41.345Z
This is not a simple budget increase. It is an explosion - making ICE bigger than the FBI, US Bureau of Prisons, DEA,& others combined.
It is setting up to make whatâs happening now look like childâs play. And people are disappearing.

Ping Tung
(3,005 posts)markodochartaigh
(3,334 posts)is part of the Department of Homeland Security. The Department of Homeland Security is a part of the Executive branch.
I think that a lot of people don't realize exactly how clear this is.
Irish_Dem
(72,217 posts)Dixiegrrrl
(105 posts)And Stephen Miller is his right hand man for it.
regnaD kciN
(27,178 posts)
that will be heavily armed and picked on the sole basis of their loyalty to MAGA.
If anyone thinks theyre only going to be used against undocumented immigrants, theyre fooling themselves.
underpants
(191,405 posts)
Bvb1979
(6 posts)You realize that serial killers harm animals first and then move on to humans. You can check it out. It's one thing and they have in common. Ted Bundy Jeffrey Dahmer etc. why did she not take it to a vet it was only 14 months old.Did she mistreated the dog to that point like they do to bulldogs to fight each other.It attack stuff why? It's obvious that she did not put the dog on a chain it's her fault. Killing like that is a profile that someone like that would become a serial killer. That explains why she likes doing harm to people. I am.criminolgy major who can profile criminals on the actions that they do.Nurses killing patients there are female serial killers they get turned on.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)about children who mistreat animals/pets because of their being mistreated physically by parent(s)
underpants
(191,405 posts)
markodochartaigh
(3,334 posts)for peace in The Homeland. Warfighters for War abroad.
A slogan with a rhythm to goosestep to.
Ocelot II
(125,905 posts)will apply for and get ICE jobs? Law enforcement tends to attract authoritarian personalities anyhow, but there's usually some screening involved to weed out the real crazies. To hire this many ICE agents they'll have to lower standards to the point where anybody with a pulse, functioning limbs and the ability to operate firearms will be welcome. Extra points for a history of assault or domestic violence.
Harker
(16,575 posts)DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)in Jail, but the ones that hadn't yet been caught and convicted, along with all their bestest buddies back home, including the ones in all the Militias spread out across the nation that he told to Stand Back, and Stand By...................The entire Proud Boys crowd, along with the Oath Keepers, etc
They all will be overjoyed to be with tons of others just like them. All paid handsomely to act out their psychopathic tendencies......
They will all be in heaven............
Harker
(16,575 posts)So much for the "well regulated" bit of the second amendment.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)secretly organizing them since even before he took office. Much like the tents and runway down in Florida that just "sprung up" out of nowhere....
I am guessing that the Runway down there is capable of massive U.S. Military transport aircraft to fly the prisoners to any other country non stop??
And capable of Air Force One landing/taking off on it?????????
Harker
(16,575 posts)Tadpole Raisin
(1,889 posts)they will be welcomed with open arms.
quakerboy
(14,447 posts)Other qualifications are basically irrelevant to be in trumps army.
The fact that we, Democrats (biden, on down to us individual voters, all inclusive) allowed ICE to continue to exist unchecked after they made themselves available to kidnap citizens protesting during the first trump regime will go down as one of the bigger mistakes in our history. If we get to have a history after this.
czarjak
(13,014 posts)I went to high school with several assholes that knew they were headed for law enforcement careers because "You get to be The Boss." At least four came from police families too.
returnee
(600 posts)patphil
(8,085 posts)That's just one of the nasty surprises hidden in this Big Ugly Bill.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)that he will come up with a special uniform for all of them to wear, and pay them handsomely. Far better than if they were the suckers and losers in the Military.
Knowing what an idol/mentor Hitler was to Trump, the uniforms actually be close to Hitler's brownshirts......
Harker
(16,575 posts)DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)to wear out in public, a garment with a Russian Flag patch on it..............
Harker
(16,575 posts)DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)BurnDoubt
(802 posts)Unis from Ivanka's Chinese sweatshops.
That's been in the brew since 2016, interrupted by four years of Sanity. It's on now, but on the down-low. Jared needs cover for his grifts.
kentuck
(114,373 posts)How could they not see?
justhanginon
(3,363 posts)Harker
(16,575 posts)regnaD kciN
(27,178 posts)...and don't think they'll be the ones targeted.
Johonny
(24,130 posts)This is like when Trump expanded border patrols, and you had agents basically guarding areas where there was no one around. They were sleeping in their vehicles and bored shitless.
Expect a lot of expensive gadgets to be purchased that get little to no use, and graft. I predict mostly you will see this as a slush fund of graft. You will see seven-figure salaries for people who do little more than watch empty cages in swamps.
Meanwhile, immigration is dropping fast, and there is going to be a real shortage of workers starting now. It will only get worse, and this money spent on ICE won't stimulate the economy at all.
not fooled
(6,379 posts)who needs workers? Problem solved!
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)Steinbeck's pulitzer winning book: Grapes of Wrath to get a feel of what the Great Depression was like for the common people......the day by day accounting of what it was like for the thousands of people in "Hoovervilles"
Harker
(16,575 posts)I will check it out.......
Harker
(16,575 posts)DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)a thousand years ago along with ANIMAL FARM.
I re-read both recently and WOW, a much different take on them with an adult mind and having seen the past 63 years unfold....
Harker
(16,575 posts)I keep the 4 volume "Collected Essays, Journalism, and Letters" of Orwell on a shelf in the bedroom, and dip in frequently.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)thanks for the tip..............
Timeflyer
(3,267 posts)Harker
(16,575 posts)We know the sources from which Trumpsky, Miller, et al. derive their inspiration...
Dixiegrrrl
(105 posts)Happily good books are still on the internet, but I have them in a file also, because the Internet will be controlled if this keeps up.
Dixiegrrrl
(105 posts)Found this after I posted above:
https://democraticunderground.com/10143490546
Harker
(16,575 posts)Yes, privacy is getting scarce, and respect for it scarcer still.
mountain grammy
(27,987 posts)The ICE gestapo will all get brand new brown shirts.
Johonny
(24,130 posts)With expensive conferences in exotic places.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)as they say in the Dakotas................But now Trump and the Republicans will upgrade her to a Gulfsteam 650
People are already cutting back on Airline travel............seems the less people will be making, the less they will travel, especially by airlines.
The Auto Industry is already in the throes of bankruptcy, maybe the airlines will all be wiped out also?
Countless numbers of the Corporations that flooded the Republicans with massive amounts of Donor money are too short sighted to think beyond their noses and realize their future may be destroyed.......Like health care, hospitals, insurance businesses, vacation businesses like Disneyland, Cruise ship industry...........etc etc etc, the list is endless.......The dominoes will cascade down like a house of cards.......
Trump may want to build a huge military guarded wall on the northern end of Florida, and move all his Politicians and Uber wealthy 1%ers down there.........
I think Gaza. He's already dibs-ed it. Golden Dome for Me... Jack-Shit for you!
Escape
(238 posts)Everything Trump touches turns to shit. It is comforting to consider that his Big Beautiful Nazi Police Force will probably more closely resemble the Keystone Cops.
Large groups of heavily armed, mentally challenged, highly unqualified boobs policing America. What could possibly go wrong?
IronLionZion
(49,433 posts)Congresspeople should demand to know more about who this administration is hiring for ICE. Something tells me these douchebags may have criminal convictions and/or can't pass background checks.
Conjuay
(2,571 posts)The ink stamp republicans?
(sigh...)
I don't know what to tell you.
IronLionZion
(49,433 posts)they should be able to get some investigation/hearing on ICE.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)the investigations so far, are akin to peeing into the ocean and expecting it to change color......or many were like pissing into the wind...
Harker
(16,575 posts)I doubt inquiries will reveal much that they won't divulge gratuitously.
ICE is part of Homeland Security and is part of the Executive Branch.
Klarkashton
(3,670 posts)Wandering around in Los Angeles in large numbers for the last month and they have rousted something like 1800 people.
lostincalifornia
(3,845 posts)"Project 2025 directs ICE to take into custody undocumented immigrants with records for felonies, crimes of violence, DUIs, previous removals along with "any other crime that is considered a national security or public safety threat as defined under current laws."
That's already the law, said Angela Kelley, senior advisor at the American Immigration Lawyers Association.
If a foreign national is arrested for a crime, their legal status is checked and a hold can be placed on their ability to be released, she explained."
https://www.axios.com/2024/11/08/trump-maga-immigration-project-2025
VP Harris and Democrats warned us.
riversedge
(76,547 posts)saying that immigrants should work for below market price. But we USA folks are not taking up the slack.
Gymbo
(168 posts)I'm off to my local 2A store.
mountain grammy
(27,987 posts)giving so much $$$ and power to Nazis
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)TAKING IT AWAY FROM US, IN EVEN BIGGER AMOUNTS TO GIVE IT TO THE TOP 1%ER BILLIONAIRES, AND ZILLIONAIRES...........
Just Jerome
(248 posts)you can hear Pastor Niemoller a little more clearly each day. Hes getting closer.
wolfie001
(5,681 posts)



Just Jerome
(248 posts)will be the Hate Department.
Gotta love the Orwellian ring!
wolfie001
(5,681 posts)Laugh then cry.......
Traildogbob
(11,482 posts)For the release of John Fugelsangs book Separation of Church and Hate in August.
This current adaptation of Church is PURE HATE. Raking in cash for it too. Gods is all, fuck it, Im out, you win Satan, its all yours. Have fun
Trump is not using make up, his face gets burned each night as he sits by Satan in Hell late at night and he posts more hate at the Red Mans mans command.
OK, to be politically correct, Satan could be a women. GQP females have proven they are equally evil. Noem and that pruned old ass Virginia Fox. (there is a long list)
She is still pissed those damn Yankees came and ripped her slaves away when she turned 21 and bought her a few dozen.
Evolve Dammit
(20,997 posts)
2na fisherman
(28 posts)They're setting up the conditions whereby the eventual armed resistance to ICE by some citizens will be met with the complete militarization of all police forces against all citizens. Immigration enforcement is just a ruse to get people accustomed to the idea of being targeted for random arrests on trumped-up charges.
DENVERPOPS
(12,987 posts)people since day one......He came close in L.A. He is primed and ready for the smallest resistance to justify him to enable the Insurrection Act, ignore the Posse Comatatus Act, use the entire U.S. military, National Guard and reserves, for any and all civilian uprisings by declaring Martial Law across the nation.......especially in Blue States.
Then, saying he doesn't have enough troops, will start shutting down bases in NATO countries and bringing those soldiers back home to fortify his troops. Naturally the first NATO country bases to be closed will be in the countries bordering Russia, to appease his boss Putin, so Putin can start invading the countries he wants............
BTW: Trump just withdrew ALL shipments of ALL military weapons being supplied to Ukraine as a giant BJ to Putin.......
peggysue2
(12,020 posts)They're selling this as immigration enforcement but the end game is population control when even the dimwits realize what this bill and the weaponization of our remaining institutions really means.
Even for them.
Step out of line? Grumble about Dear Leader to the wrong neighbor? There's always room at Alligator Alcatraz.
We're all vulnerable immigrants now. Only our numbers and solidarity offer any strength and/or future protection.
The powers that now be want us isolated, uninformed and afraid.
orangecrush
(25,583 posts)Dixiegrrrl
(105 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(166,210 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(166,210 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,516 posts)Harker
(16,575 posts)Kablooie
(18,941 posts)Im sure this is in the future.
dem4decades
(12,957 posts)Harker
(16,575 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,465 posts)Harker
(16,575 posts)I'll be the guy with the phony glasses-nose-moustache combo.
The Wizard
(13,266 posts)the updated Gestapo / Proud Boys
Wuddles440
(1,776 posts)version of the Gestapo (aka ICE) was the most critical element of this legislation! The other items such as the devastating cuts to Medicaid/SNAP, extending the tax subsidies to billionaires and corporations, etc. were just a distraction from their main objective.
luvallpeeps
(1,218 posts)If anyone paid any attention, you could see it was gonna happen. They are blood thirsty, and pulling out all the stops. God help us.
quakerboy
(14,447 posts)I think those of us who paid attention during Schindler's list have an idea.
I care about the cuts to aid for people. But I expect that of republicans. I care about increased debt and taxbreaks targeting the rich. But I expect that of republicans.
The fact that any center, left, or just realist news organization hasn't spent the last two weeks talking about the huge enlargement of concentration camps and an internal army under Trumps personal purview has baffled me. The rest of the bill suck. The children that will starve, the elders that will be kicked out on the street, the many many people who will get sick, disabled, and die. But the fact that there is absolutely no reason for the ICE budget other than preparing to suppress dissent in the USA, and not a single major news org that I have seen have even discussed the possibilty.. yeah. This aint good.
malthaussen
(18,173 posts)It's not wrong, but with DJT everything is about the grift. Congress is signing off on a 150 billion dollar barrel of pork to further line the pockets of the rich and the politicians they own. This whole immigration shtick is about transferring even more wealth from the taxpayers to the rich, because the GOP is determined to find out if you really can get blood from a stone if you squeeze hard enough.
-- Mal
Dark n Stormy Knight
(10,408 posts)as will Dear Leader with all that filthy lucre at their disposal.
Bernardo de La Paz
(57,015 posts)... and bigger than hunting the Vice President and Speaker to assassinate them to stop the peaceful transfer of power Jan 6.
Susan Calvin
(2,317 posts)I am certainly expectant. I am quite sure of the reason for this funding.
malaise
(286,475 posts)Last edited Fri Jul 4, 2025, 09:38 AM - Edit history (1)
Just wait until he executes elected Democrats
A HERETIC I AM
(24,814 posts)It's here. This is it.
So many of those 2A types have been telling us for DECADES that they need their guns to fight a tyrannical government.
WELL HERE'S YOUR CHANCE, CLETUS! Show us what you got!
If they don't start sho**ing those ICE assholes like fish in a barrel, we will all know you have been totally full of shit for years.
But they won't, will they?
This country is rushing headlong into Failed State status. It is being consumed by the abject racism of the minority. Huh....where has that ever happened before?
DallasNE
(7,823 posts)Today it has change nearly 180 degrees after Trump issued and order to stop picking up farm workers. Farm workers make up the bulk of illegal immigrants. The budget is now way out of sync with the Trump order - who couldn't see this coming.
republianmushroom
(20,614 posts)America land of the free, was, not now. Another myth shot in the ass.
Robertmiller1220
(16 posts)We need to counter ICE with State Based Military, Law Enforcement, Medics, etc. Sue for Peace from a Strong Position. Strong Medicine. Federal Military Command must devolve to the Governors and their Generals and Admirals. More Strong Medicine. More Information to Come.
peacebuzzard
(5,610 posts)a couple of days ago.
And there were some new and numerous uniformed officers staring down at passengers retrieving their luggage.
They were wearing uniforms and ballcaps I did not recognize.
I was tired and in a hurry but the extra personnel was noteworthy.