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SunSeeker

(56,170 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 01:57 AM Jul 4

Did anyone else just get a skeevy propaganda email from the Social Security Administration?

I have never gotten an unsolicited email like this from Social Security before. It gushes about the passage of the "Big Beautiful Bill" and how it will allow 90% of seniors to not pay tax on their Social Security. WTF. Who sent this, Big Balls? Oh, and it states that the email "was produced and disseminated at U.S. taxpayer expense."

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Did anyone else just get a skeevy propaganda email from the Social Security Administration? (Original Post) SunSeeker Jul 4 OP
I did not, but othrs here have; I 'just' got my 'regular' SS. elleng Jul 4 #1
Mine came today Mossfern Jul 4 #38
I did CountAllVotes Jul 4 #2
The thing is, the vast majority of seniors don't pay taxes on their social security. SunSeeker Jul 4 #4
I did. Just about threw up reading it. Dem2theMax Jul 4 #3
I know.. Neo Nazi Propaganda Machine at your service. Cha Jul 4 #7
Yep. And I figured it was some bullshit FirstLight Jul 4 #5
Yes, I got that, too. Silver Gaia Jul 4 #6
I received one sdfernando Jul 4 #8
I got one. Dr. T Jul 4 #9
I got it at 8:27 last night. markodochartaigh Jul 4 #10
Yes, just received it. And my SocSec went into French account yesterday. GoneOffShore Jul 4 #11
It could be the devaluation of the U. S. dollar Dr. T Jul 4 #16
Oh, it's definitely that. Every expat we know is upset about the exchange rate. GoneOffShore Jul 4 #31
Yes. I did. Pototan Jul 4 #12
I looked and there it was. BidenRocks Jul 4 #13
Love your last sentence. Katinfl Jul 4 #27
Yes, I got it. mnhtnbb Jul 4 #14
Yes, it is grotesque, especially as so many JMCKUSICK Jul 4 #15
Big Lie SS self pat memo. Squeaky41 Jul 4 #17
Yes. I thought: "WTF?" mainer Jul 4 #18
Notice how the email fails to mention these basic facts, even though it goes on for paragraphs? SunSeeker Jul 4 #34
The Bill mentions nothing about SS earnings being taxed. Wiz Imp Jul 4 #36
This is insidious Beausoleil Jul 4 #19
I saw a post claiming that is false MichMan Jul 4 #32
I was wrong in my assumption that taxes collected on SS Benefits don't go back to the SS Trust fund. Wiz Imp Jul 4 #39
Yep. What a lousy thing to wake up to Maeve Jul 4 #20
Yes - propaganda. 617Blue Jul 4 #21
It reads like this.. ProudMNDemocrat Jul 4 #22
The average benefit of this new deduction is an increase in after tax income of just $670 Wiz Imp Jul 4 #37
Got the email this morning. nt doc03 Jul 4 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 4 #24
yes. barbtries Jul 4 #25
Yes, dog whatta slimy email MiHale Jul 4 #26
That the SSA has to call it "Big Beautiful Bill" NCDem47 Jul 4 #28
Sound of debt clock speeding up MIGuy Jul 4 #29
Yes WmChris Jul 4 #30
Yup peggysue2 Jul 4 #33
Meanwhile, the bill cuts Medicaid for seniors, which hurts nursing homes. SunSeeker Jul 4 #35

CountAllVotes

(21,895 posts)
2. I did
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:01 AM
Jul 4

from: subscription.service@subscriptions.ssa.gov

>> Social Security Administration
Social Security Applauds Passage of Legislation Providing Historic Tax Relief for Seniors


The Social Security Administration (SSA) is celebrating the passage of the One Big, Beautiful Bill, a landmark piece of legislation that delivers long-awaited tax relief to millions of older Americans.

The bill ensures that nearly 90% of Social Security beneficiaries will no longer pay federal income taxes on their benefits, providing meaningful and immediate relief to seniors who have spent a lifetime contributing to our nation's economy.

“This is a historic step forward for America’s seniors,” said Social Security Commissioner Frank Bisignano. “For nearly 90 years, Social Security has been a cornerstone of economic security for older Americans. By significantly reducing the tax burden on benefits, this legislation reaffirms President Trump’s promise to protect Social Security and helps ensure that seniors can better enjoy the retirement they’ve earned."

The new law includes a provision that eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security benefits for most beneficiaries, providing relief to individuals and couples. Additionally, it provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older, ensuring that retirees can keep more of what they have earned.

Social Security remains committed to providing timely, accurate information to the public and will continue working closely with federal partners to ensure beneficiaries understand how this legislation may affect them.






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SunSeeker

(56,170 posts)
4. The thing is, the vast majority of seniors don't pay taxes on their social security.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:08 AM
Jul 4

Certainly the poor ones don't. But they are the ones who will be hurt by Medicaid cuts.

For most seniors, the Big Ugly Bill is all pain, no gain.

Dem2theMax

(10,778 posts)
3. I did. Just about threw up reading it.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:07 AM
Jul 4

Look at the shiny object over here.
Don't pay any attention to all the bad news going on over there.

Cha

(313,111 posts)
7. I know.. Neo Nazi Propaganda Machine at your service.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 03:29 AM
Jul 4

I haven't gotten one thankfully but have read plenty on here who have.

FirstLight

(15,521 posts)
5. Yep. And I figured it was some bullshit
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:18 AM
Jul 4

Actually I figured as fucked up as this administration as it was somehow patting itself on the back for their bullshit big Bill ..
It's just a fucking joke. I deleted it and didn't click on anything cuz I wasn't sure what the fuck to believe

Dr. T

(312 posts)
9. I got one.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:21 AM
Jul 4

I started reading it then quickly realized it was Nazi propaganda.

It made my stomach churn. I couldn't believe what I was experiencing. Biden wouldn't have allowed it. The message sounded like a Musk trap.

markodochartaigh

(3,386 posts)
10. I got it at 8:27 last night.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:31 AM
Jul 4

I worked for a hospital that forced registered nurses to work unpaid overtime for more than a decade. When they finally started to pay us overtime again they put out a memo. You would have thought that they invented the wheel. They must teach that garbage in business school.

GoneOffShore

(17,870 posts)
11. Yes, just received it. And my SocSec went into French account yesterday.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:31 AM
Jul 4

Social Security converted to euros -
€1 159,23
€1 138,81
Last month it was
€1 198,34
€1 177.24
Strange because in May it was
€1194.66
€1173.63
Before #Felon47 was elected, it was averaging €1200 - €1250 + per month

Dr. T

(312 posts)
16. It could be the devaluation of the U. S. dollar
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 05:26 AM
Jul 4

against all foreign currencies.

Fuck the orange ignoramus, he and his enablers are responsible for this.

BidenRocks

(1,859 posts)
13. I looked and there it was.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:35 AM
Jul 4

Now this would save me $2400.

Remember the checks he just had to sign in his first term?
This is an e mail version of that.

Fuck off and die chump!

mnhtnbb

(32,652 posts)
14. Yes, I got it.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:48 AM
Jul 4

Disgusting.
Also, from what I understand, thanks to the requirement of RMD on my IRA, the distribution will push me over the threshold for eligibility of not being taxed on my SS. So I will be lucky enough to contribute to a tax break for billionaires by virtue of continuing to be taxed on my Social Security.

F you, orange a$$hole and every damn Republican.

JMCKUSICK

(3,188 posts)
15. Yes, it is grotesque, especially as so many
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:58 AM
Jul 4

(me included) struggling to access that very benefit.

mainer

(12,378 posts)
18. Yes. I thought: "WTF?"
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:42 AM
Jul 4

Now SSA is being used for propaganda?
Can anyone explain what the bill says about Social Security earnings not being taxed? What is the income limit?

SunSeeker

(56,170 posts)
34. Notice how the email fails to mention these basic facts, even though it goes on for paragraphs?
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:23 PM
Jul 4

That's propaganda for you.

I tried looking it up and it is far from clear. The vast majority of seniors already don’t pay tax on their Social Security. But a lot of seniors will get their Medicaid cut. This Big Ugly Bill is definitely not a win for seniors.

Wiz Imp

(6,126 posts)
36. The Bill mentions nothing about SS earnings being taxed.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:37 PM
Jul 4

The bill was not allowed to make any changes to SS.

The bill adds a new deduction for those 65 and over , but that is not tied to SS Benefits in any way.

Beausoleil

(2,999 posts)
19. This is insidious
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 06:55 AM
Jul 4

By federal law, taxes on SS benefits go into the SS trust fund, so this is just another way to kill the system or at least reduce benefits later.

Wiz Imp

(6,126 posts)
39. I was wrong in my assumption that taxes collected on SS Benefits don't go back to the SS Trust fund.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 4

However, I don't believe this will have any impact (or very little impact) on the amount of money going to the Trust Fund. See my follow-up post: https://democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20459565

Regardless, the amount of money previously collected for the Trust Fund is extremely small relatively speaking. The highest estimate I found for the impact of the bill is a loss of $30 billion in funds collected by the Trust Fund. That is out of approximately $1.7 trillion total collected annually by the trust fund.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,913 posts)
22. It reads like this..
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 07:16 AM
Jul 4

The Social Security Administration (SSA) is celebrating the passage of the One Big, Beautiful Bill, a landmark piece of legislation that delivers long-awaited tax relief to millions of older Americans.

The bill ensures that nearly 90% of Social Security beneficiaries will no longer pay federal income taxes on their benefits, providing meaningful and immediate relief to seniors who have spent a lifetime contributing to our nation's economy.

“This is a historic step forward for America’s seniors,” said Social Security Commissioner Frank Bisignano. “For nearly 90 years, Social Security has been a cornerstone of economic security for older Americans. By significantly reducing the tax burden on benefits, this legislation reaffirms President Trump’s promise to protect Social Security and helps ensure that seniors can better enjoy the retirement they’ve earned."

The new law includes a provision that eliminates federal income taxes on Social Security benefits for most beneficiaries, providing relief to individuals and couples. Additionally, it provides an enhanced deduction for taxpayers aged 65 and older, ensuring that retirees can keep more of what they have earned.
________________________________________________________________________________________________What this means to me is when in January when the W-2 s come out, it will show what we end up owing because the US Treasury is SHORT. The same will happen to Tips and overtime as well.

Relief for Seniors? Hardly.

Wiz Imp

(6,126 posts)
37. The average benefit of this new deduction is an increase in after tax income of just $670
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 04:41 PM
Jul 4

But that is based only on those that benefit. Many seniors already pay no income tax so this doesn't benefit them at all. The overall average benefit for seniors is likely well below $670.

Response to SunSeeker (Original post)

barbtries

(30,604 posts)
25. yes.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:12 AM
Jul 4

and it's the first time I've ever receive anything like it.

pure propaganda, which is job 1 for the krasnov abomination administration

NCDem47

(2,924 posts)
28. That the SSA has to call it "Big Beautiful Bill"
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:17 AM
Jul 4

GALLS me.



Recieved same email last night, so they had it keyed up and ready to go.

Has the SSA EVER sent out something so poltical?

Boy, is America going to have the dial turned up to 11 to be gaslit on all aspects of this bill.

WmChris

(365 posts)
30. Yes
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 08:27 AM
Jul 4

Their management team has apparently decided to kiss the hand that has actively work to render them ineffective.

peggysue2

(12,027 posts)
33. Yup
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 4

Received it last night. Eliot was the first recipient on the board and sounded the alert.

My reaction?

WTF!

Social Security has NEVER sent out political messaging before. And how cute. This wonderful uptick will last as long as Trump is in office, add to the debt and hasten SS insolvency with all the tax cuts to the Billionaire bros.

We're not suppose to notice the poison pill in the candy.

This is a Republican CYA moment hoping we'll forget what they've done by offering a few crumbs to their senior base.

Never forget. Never forgive.

SunSeeker

(56,170 posts)
35. Meanwhile, the bill cuts Medicaid for seniors, which hurts nursing homes.
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 02:27 PM
Jul 4

A lot of seniors will end up getting kicked out of their nursing homes.

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