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Tribetime

(6,743 posts)
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:33 PM Jul 4

I thought the contry wouldn't be ready for Pete Buttigieg but I've changed my mind

After the big ugly bill we need somebody that can go on fox news and tell what's going on and stick it in their face

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I thought the contry wouldn't be ready for Pete Buttigieg but I've changed my mind (Original Post) Tribetime Jul 4 OP
He certainly is the man to do just that, my dear Tribetime! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 4 #1
and he's got an easy style of delivery.....no "better then you" vibe. a kennedy Jul 5 #23
I think he would be an amazing President. Sun-Moon Jul 4 #2
Have read several recent polls on possible Dem presidential candidates and he's right at top. Silent Type Jul 4 #3
Yep, Harris's post election support has declined madville Jul 4 #9
Yes, please! lovesfruit Jul 4 #4
He can 'stick it in the face' of Faux News viewers, Jack Valentino Jul 4 #5
'we need somebody that can go on fox news and tell what's going on and stick it in their face' elleng Jul 4 #6
He is perfect to be our pit bull. A nice gentle one but he is so good a sticking it to them yellowdogintexas Jul 5 #22
If the conservatives in the nation went ape-shit over a Black man Dan Jul 4 #7
Obama won twice Tribetime Jul 5 #10
Yes, he did :) Dan Jul 5 #12
It's hard to take them seriously over morality concerns EnergizedLib Jul 5 #14
He can't even win a statewide race, why would he win the Electoral College? Wanderlust988 Jul 4 #8
Well.We have primaries to see what will happen Tribetime Jul 5 #11
Quite a few have won the Presidency without a statewide office. tinrobot Jul 5 #16
People cling to white men as saviors Pris Jul 5 #17
And some think that nominating another woman will surely work 'this time', and not set us up for a third female loss in Celerity Jul 5 #28
This right here. ms liberty Jul 5 #30
I agree Bettie Jul 5 #33
Pete can stick it to em in about 5 languages..we've got to business to take care of so Pete can run..if he wants to Deuxcents Jul 5 #13
The biggest problem is videohead5 Jul 5 #15
It's not even been six months and people are already realizing how good we had it with Biden. W_HAMILTON Jul 5 #25
Voters videohead5 Jul 5 #31
They won because they weren't happy with their current situation and blamed Biden for it. W_HAMILTON Jul 5 #32
The country is not ready for any member of the Biden Administration's cabinet. speak easy Jul 5 #18
Adlai Stevenson got hammered twice. Tarzanrock Jul 5 #19
I agree. It's obvious that competence, honesty, ethics,clear articulation and good character are Wonder Why Jul 5 #29
Love Buttigieg, But... DET Jul 5 #20
Pete is very cerebral. He's great, but not sure he has that common touch like Bill Clinton n/t Wanderlust988 Jul 5 #21
If our aim is a Honey Boo Boo candidate... Hope22 Jul 5 #27
I've been calling for Pete all along. William769 Jul 5 #24
I like him a lot, but I think we need someone more aggressive. W_HAMILTON Jul 5 #26

CaliforniaPeggy

(154,629 posts)
1. He certainly is the man to do just that, my dear Tribetime!
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:36 PM
Jul 4

He is young, quick on his feet and knows so much. He will make a great President.



a kennedy

(34,000 posts)
23. and he's got an easy style of delivery.....no "better then you" vibe.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 08:40 AM
Jul 5

Get’s his point across without being in your face. He’s just easy going but effective.

madville

(7,818 posts)
9. Yep, Harris's post election support has declined
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:56 PM
Jul 4

She has gone from high-30s just after the election down to around low-20s. Pete has been trending up, got to 20% and is hanging around high-teens.

lovesfruit

(26 posts)
4. Yes, please!
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:43 PM
Jul 4

Would love to see more from him, and hope he emerges as the front runner. I highly recommend looking up the various podcasts he’s been on. He’s a genuinely good person, with a true love for public service.

Jack Valentino

(2,881 posts)
5. He can 'stick it in the face' of Faux News viewers,
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jul 4

but that certainly won't make them vote for him--- probably the opposite,
other than the very tiny minority who might still have
two brain cells left to rub together....


I love Pete, but I don't have faith enough that the 'country has changed' enough
that he could win a presidential election now--- particularly when all the evidence I see
points in the opposite direction




elleng

(140,257 posts)
6. 'we need somebody that can go on fox news and tell what's going on and stick it in their face'
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:44 PM
Jul 4

yellowdogintexas

(23,375 posts)
22. He is perfect to be our pit bull. A nice gentle one but he is so good a sticking it to them
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 03:04 AM
Jul 5

and he does not hesitate to go on their programs.

Dan

(4,845 posts)
7. If the conservatives in the nation went ape-shit over a Black man
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:49 PM
Jul 4

What do you think they would do about Pete (regardless of qualifications). Look at Hilary, the most qualified person that I have ever seen but she was a woman. My religious female friend that voted for Trump said about her - she was married to Bill and blamed Hilary for Bill’s indiscretions.

Unless we break the hold of MAGA, the religious right and the bigots - we probably won’t get the best candidate, we are stuck with what is acceptable.

But, let’s see what the BIG BEAUTIFUL BILL does to the nation - thats when the MAGA world will realize that they have been royally screwed while screwing the rest of us.

And finally, ICE might be the GOP secret weapon - a police force that will disappear us under the guise of the law.

Dan

(4,845 posts)
12. Yes, he did :)
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:07 AM
Jul 5

But, we got an organized resistance in the Congress and Media to that - and that is why we have Trump.

Plus, I won’t discount the role the Russians played in our politics. All in all, we see the Citizens United, the Oligarchs and their puppets in why we have Trump.

EnergizedLib

(2,659 posts)
14. It's hard to take them seriously over morality concerns
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:20 AM
Jul 5

Look what they’ve supported since 2015.

Wanderlust988

(664 posts)
8. He can't even win a statewide race, why would he win the Electoral College?
Fri Jul 4, 2025, 11:50 PM
Jul 4

His base is yuppie coastal America. He would never win Georgia or North Carolina....NEVER. It wouldn't even be competitive.

Celerity

(51,126 posts)
28. And some think that nominating another woman will surely work 'this time', and not set us up for a third female loss in
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:24 AM
Jul 5

a row (in just 4 cycles as well).

I am a cis-gendered queer, mixed race black, atheist female and in 2028 I will only advocate for a straight, white, christian male as our nominee.

2028 is our last shot before the post 2030 census reapportioned House (and thus the Electoral College map as well) kicks in in 2032 and ratfucks us hard.

We are staring at a negative 20, maybe more, net Blue to Red or Pink state US House seat swing, which will make winning both the House and POTUS a lot harder for us.

We simply MUST win POTUS, the House, and (a heavy AF lift if we do not chip away at it in 2026) the Senate in 2028, and then have 2 years to try and roll back vast parts of the Trumpian nightmare damage.

Hopefully we can win the House all 3 times (2026, 2028, and 2030) before the 2032 and beyond maps kicks in. Hopefully we can take back the Senate in 2028 and even hold it in 2030.

IF we lose POTUS again in 2028, things are looking truly grim going forward.

The country is now (post the 2012/2013ish beginning rise of new hyper divisive, algorithm-driven social media archetype, now rocket-fuelled by AI) even more entrenched (and getting worse, with younger males especially, including all races, now running headlong into the clutches of the right) in its misogyny.

Running a female POTUS nominee yet again, for the 3rd time in 4 elections, is far too great a risk, given the stakes, for me to condone.

Bettie

(18,634 posts)
33. I agree
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jul 5

and it kills something inside me to do that.

Misogyny is the most powerful force in this country. Racism is second.

Deuxcents

(23,248 posts)
13. Pete can stick it to em in about 5 languages..we've got to business to take care of so Pete can run..if he wants to
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:12 AM
Jul 5

It’s gonna take all of us..not one person is gonna get us out of this mess but I’d be very happy to support him if and when the time comes

videohead5

(2,710 posts)
15. The biggest problem is
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 12:49 AM
Jul 5

That he was a part of the Biden administration. The Democrats need an outsider. A governor would be much better.

W_HAMILTON

(9,369 posts)
25. It's not even been six months and people are already realizing how good we had it with Biden.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:34 AM
Jul 5

Working in the Biden administration won't be the albatross that you think it will, especially with over 3.5 years of this bullshit administration left to go.

videohead5

(2,710 posts)
31. Voters
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jul 5

Unfortunately, the American people see the Biden administration in not a very good light. That is why Trump won. We all know that President Biden had nothing to do with inflation, and that it was caused by the aftermath of the pandemic, but a majority of the voters blamed the Biden administration. That's hard to overcome.

W_HAMILTON

(9,369 posts)
32. They won because they weren't happy with their current situation and blamed Biden for it.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 5

Now, just a few months removed from the Biden administration, they are even UNHAPPIER with their current situation and it's the Republicans that are in complete control of the federal government that they are directing their anger towards.

 

Tarzanrock

(1,250 posts)
19. Adlai Stevenson got hammered twice.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:36 AM
Jul 5

Hubert Humphrey got hammered. George McGovern was obliterated. Mondale ran with a woman and was massacred. Bu$h, Sr. decisively defeated Dukakis -- a smart, articulate liberal governor similar to Buttigieg. Gore ran with a Jew and lost to the $hrub. $hrub beat Kerry. The Turd beat two extremely intelligent and well qualified women, Hillary and Kamala, a black woman married to a Jew. It's pretty damn clear that for the past 75+ historical years that this country does not elect "liberals;" it does not elect people who have funny names; and, it does not elect 'tickets' which have women candidates on those tickets. Given that indisputable history -- it is damn difficult to imagine that this country, in this Fascist time, is going to now somehow elect an openly 'gay' man who is married to another 'gay' man and that all of the Bible Thumpers; Catholics; Evangelicals; Pentacostal assholes; Baptists and all other assorted 'religious' whackos are now going to somehow vote for a 'gay' guy with a name like 'Buttigieg."

Wonder Why

(5,983 posts)
29. I agree. It's obvious that competence, honesty, ethics,clear articulation and good character are
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 10:37 AM
Jul 5

great characteristics voters should look at, but that doesn't have a great relevance when it comes to winning an election. That's been proven by history.

Glorious defeat may make good reading by historians but is still a loss.

But it's not just the "religious" wackos. There are those of any religion and those with no religion, Deists, Athiests and Agnostics who feel the same way.

And, of course, there are those who may like some or many of his policies but who vote their own self-interest on the economy, defense, "America First", security and safety and go for someone else like what has happened now and in the past.

Many people will ask "How will he protect MY interests?" and the country be damned.
Will I and my family benefit economically?
Will I and my family feel safe (not "be safe&quot from criminals?
Will I an my family feel secure (not "be secure&quot from foreign invasion and war?


DET

(2,121 posts)
20. Love Buttigieg, But...
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:50 AM
Jul 5

He’s too damn erudite for most of the country. I don’t think the issue is so much that he’s gay, but that he’s educated and articulate. The Honey Boo-boo voters can’t relate. I really had no idea how many stupid, ignorant people we have in this country. But it’s a problem, and I don’t know how to solve it.

Wanderlust988

(664 posts)
21. Pete is very cerebral. He's great, but not sure he has that common touch like Bill Clinton n/t
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 02:55 AM
Jul 5

W_HAMILTON

(9,369 posts)
26. I like him a lot, but I think we need someone more aggressive.
Sat Jul 5, 2025, 09:38 AM
Jul 5

Newsom would have been perfect, but then he started playing footsie with the MAGA types, so he's no longer at the top of my list.

I wouldn't have thought I would have ever considered Pritzker, but he fits that aggressive mold that I want in our next candidate.

Shapiro would be another one that I would give a good look at.

Either way, the person that gets my vote in the next Democratic Primary will be the one that pledges to be the most aggressive in going after the MAGA criminals, rooting them out from all our agencies and departments, and rolling back everything Trump and his Republicans implemented -- and then some.

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