***NRA PRESSER. LIVE THREAD**** Fuck you Wayne, you loathsome piece of slime.

[cali]

Immediately slamming those "who politicize this tragedy". Claiming the NRA has remained respectful. Armed security is his solution.

http://www.c-span.org/Live-Video/C-SPAN/

[spanone]

1. his solution MORE FUCKING GUNS

[Buns_of_Fire]

14. As soon as he said "gun free zones" were part of the problem,

you can see it coming...

[JDPriestly]

106. So let's tax the possession of guns to pay for the armed security in our schools.

I'll go for that.

[libdem4life]

185. With you on that one, Millions of kids to go to school every week day.

The social contract has had 26 proverbial holes shot in it...it's a gaping hole. I agree mental health needs to be increased, but the costs are tremendous and won't be accomplished quickly. School functions have armed guards, most of them sports events. How ever we end up with this, the gun industry MUST bear the cost of regulation...and that includes, sadly, armed security guards at elementary schools.

Were I the parent of a young elementary child today ... again, yes. And neither do I want my kid's teacher to have a gun. It makes absolutely no sense. Where will it be kept? Well locked away, of course. When the unthinkable happens...how long will it take for him/her to access it? And in mayhem, and with kids all around, at what point should he or she shoot? It is the teacher's job to be defensive and manage the kids as best as possible. Not play Rambo...that's what the security guard is paid to do.

[JDPriestly]

205. Actually, I hate the idea of gunmen in schools.

It's the worst idea yet. It once again reinforces the idea that you need violence and weapons in your life. It's downright sick.

Just sick. Pretty soon we will be buying metal detectors to put in the entrances of schools. We have them at the entrances of the courts in LA. Everyone gets pretty hardened to them, but in the end, you don't feel safer, you just feel less free.

The proliferation of guns and security is what is making Americans feel violated, less free.

Guns engenders more guns. The fear that causes people to want armed guards everywhere engenders more fear. The fear and the guns are a vicious cycle that are gradually but with increasing speed are making life in this country an obstacle course.

No. Gunmen in the schools is a horrible idea. The worst yet.

[libdem4life]

215. I hate it too...but do you have a better one for parents sending their kids to school

after the holidays? Other than hope or pretend that it "can't happen here"?

Or wait until we have a 1st rate mental health system and can identify every future shooter? How much in taxes would we be willing to pay? It's extremely revenue negative.

And I disagree that the proliferation of guns is more fearful than what happened at Sandy Hook. And what is feared, with all due respect to gun folk, it's the crazy ones who spoil it for the rest.

I've been converted from the sheer futility of banning guns. It would be preferable, but it's not going to happen and I'm not willing to risk kids lives daily for pie in the sky.

We can, given our skills at regulating vehicles, alcohol, cigarettes, air travel, even domestic pet ... regulate and deal with guns in their 21st century reality. They're managed, controlled, taxed, confiscated in certain situations. There is a big pile of money there that can be used, revenue positive. We can do this.

And it's not GUNMEN in schools unless they are there to shoot kids, speaking of paranoia. We speak of Security Guards, like Crossing Guards, just armed and ready should a real gunman get stupid ideas.

[JDPriestly]

244. I haven't decided yet what should be done.

We can, given our skills at regulating vehicles, alcohol, cigarettes, air travel, even domestic pet ... regulate and deal with guns in their 21st century reality. They're managed, controlled, taxed, confiscated in certain situations. There is a big pile of money there that can be used, revenue positive. We can do this.

And, yes. It is gunmen in our schools. Any person with a gun is a gunman or woman.

Euphemisms don't change things.

[libdem4life]

245. Sorry...wasn't referring to shooters...but to Security Guards...

We're on the same page. And the gun industry will do it and pay for it and be grateful...because it is in their best interests to do so...bad as I hate to admit it. They also know we can't just presto make then all illegal or swoop up all the guns...not possible.

It is huge societal shift...and so much money and politics and emotions ... and there will probably be a big struggle for "rights" to do the job and that scares me a bit.

[kestrel91316]

209. Yep. Tax the living daylights out of guns and ammo. Nobody will be able to claim

that it deprives them of a 2nd Amendment right, lol. Tax them like cigarettes - to make ownership VERY costly and thereby discourage excessive ownership. And to pay for the harm they do to society.

And if gun nuts whine about how expensive they are, just tell them they need to get a job, or work harder, or borrow $20k from the parents to pay for the gun expenses, or start a business to make more money to pay for their toys.

[el scorcho]

214. Here's where you sign on to do exactly that!

Tax the gun sales to fund mental healthcare and police!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/add-100-tax-purchase-all-firearms-fund-additional-police-and-access-mental-healthcare-resources/RMxBLK9S

[tex-wyo-dem]

197. Not surprising...

Wayne's first priority is prostituting for the gun and ammo manufacturers so they can make more $$$$$$. "We need more guns"...I'm shocked he would propose such a thing

In reality, he could really care less about how safe school kids are.

[liberal N proud]

203. That was my take also

The only solution they ever offer, MORE FUCKING GUNS.

Now we know where this phrase originated: "If everyone had a gun we would be safer."

[Initech]

223. Yeah let's throw a couple extra tanks of kerosene on the fire.

[w8liftinglady]

2. I'm right there with you. Fuck him

[barnabas63]

3. Is this right..? Am I hearing this right??

Is he calling for more guns?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

[spanone]

4. GOOD FOR THE PROTESTER

[MANative]

5. This man is a killer. A murderer.

Fuck him.

[cali]

6. protestor. yay for him.

[flamingdem]

9. Thanks for one sane voice

I hope that's the news, not this gun nut's views

[IdaBriggs]

7. One might think this was a marketing strategy to sell more product.

One would be right.

[GeorgeGist]

8. For example ...

[valerief]

172. That's where our tax money goes! nt

[nc4bo]

10. Thank-you brave Protesters. Fuck you NRA.

Editing because there are more than one!!

Someone speaking for the sane ones!

[blue_heron]

204. +1000

I was shocked they let the man with the sign stand as long as he did before security swooped in to move him away. His hands were shaking, you could tell he was scared but unafraid to make his stand. Bravery is a good description. I hope some good lawyer goes helps him out.

[Cobalt Violet]

11. Armed guards at school.

They caused the problem, they should pay for it!

[Mrs. Overall]

12. Database of the mentally ill??????

[HughBeaumont]

13. And of course, CNBC is broadcasting this proudly . . .

. . . . like the right wing pigs they are. Sharing the same hog waller, these two diseased porkers are.

[Matt_in_STL]

15. We can't register guns and their owners

But let's keep a database of the mentally ill so we can ostracize them as if they were criminals. What a dick.

[PA Democrat]

86. OMG. This guy is beyond despicable.

[cali]

16. oh my god. the vile toad just suggested a national data base of the "mentally ill".

ignorant piece of shit. HIPA, wayne you fucking moron.

[IdaBriggs]

23. We already have it - registered NRA members & Republicans.

Problem solved.

[WinkyDink]

52. WINNER!!!!!!!

[Chorophyll]

129. Bingo!

[wordpix]

231. hahaha, way to add a little humor in a dark situation

[JDPriestly]

119. Which would make it harder to get people to seek help.

And many, many of us look for help at least once in our lives.

The man is an idiot. But then we knew that.

I would favor taxing the possessors of guns to pay for guards in the schools and mental health care. If they are to pay for all that, the taxes would have to be rather high, don't you think. Maybe we should also require gun owners to pay for some of the extra equipment our police officers need to be prepared for run-ins with gun owners.

[backscatter712]

200. He's an evil subhuman psychopath.

He'll scream about registering gun owners or licensing people to possess deadly weapons, then in the very next sentence, demand that people with mental illnesses be ostracized and treated like lepers.

Fuck that murder-succoring cockroach.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

17. Lifelong gun owner here....

I'm totally disgusted by this human piece of shit. It's everybody's fault but their own.

Ban them. Ban them all.

[nc4bo]

21. Yes, this bastards is blaming EVERYone and EVERYthing else for the problem. Guns not the problem.

He can kiss my arse.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

35. If you support the NRA, you support mass murder

I wasn't a radical on this subject until this very moment.

[Berlum]

127. Republicans just DO NO DO RESPONSIBILITY

They have toe-tapping bathroom diaper sex with hookers, then immediately announce that Jesus has forgiven them, and go back home to crawl into their cribs to suckle like fearful children on their guns.

[spanone]

18. fuck you lapierre. america SEES your paranoia. here come the video games bullshit.

[1-Old-Man]

19. This is utterly disgraceful.

And I am a believer in the individual right to bear arms, but this is beyond reason.

[Botany]

20. If we have so many crazy people then why do we make it easier for them to ...

.... get guns?

It is the medias fault and schools need more guns too.

[bluedigger]

22. It's the spray and pray defense.

Throwing everything out there.

[old guy]

24. Be honest,

did anyone really expect anything different?

[obamanut2012]

63. Yes, much more muted

[old guy]

124. At first I thought that too,

but then I felt they have to go all in or be seen as being weak.

[Chorophyll]

136. Nope.

Bullies, cowards, and general scum of the earth always behave this way. Nothing is their fault, and you're not allowed to ask questions.

[Tab]

158. My wife thought they'd have to give concessions

I said I expected them to double-down.

[barbtries]

174. i didn't.

i'm at work so i haven't seen it...but judging by this thread he is being as dense and offensive as could possibly be imagined. since burt lancaster or whoever it was mentioned his cold dead fingers immediately after Columbine i don't think i could be any more offended by the NRA or their reptilian spokespeople.

[cali]

25. I imagined this would be bad. No way I could have imagined this.

Unbelievable.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

28. It's much, much worse. He should be dragged from that presser and...I can't

finish what I want to say.

[cali]

40. locked in a padded room wearing a straight jacket is what you want to say, I'm sure.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

51. Yeah, that's it. eom

[Mrs. Overall]

26. Blaming the media for biased reporting. Can't wait to see the commentaries after this unbelievable

"presser."

[TDale313]

69. Media, video games,

Defect the blame on everyone except the guns and their group. The protesters were right - they have blood on their hands.

[regnaD kciN]

155. They'll slobber all over him...

...for fear of being labeled "part of the problem" as members of the media that produces those eeeeeeevil video games and violent movies that were the REAL cause of last week's carnage.

[KeepItReal]

27. No questions today...ask them (NRA) next week.

Cowards

These MF'ers could have just put a video on YouTube if they didn't want to answer any questions.

[Evergreen Emerald]

29. what an arrogant "victim"

He is so "demonized."

[Lint Head]

30. This prick is personally responsible for the deaths of the Newtown children and teachers.

[cali]

31. Shame on the NRA! Yay another brave protestor.

[Mrs. Overall]

32. MOre disrupters! "NRA has blood on it's hands" being chanted!

[proud2BlibKansan]

54. That was Medea Benjamin, founder of Code Pink.

She rocks.

[Mrs. Overall]

68. Excellent! Didn't recognize her. Good for her!!!

[Politicub]

181. The voice of the people will not be silenced

[Bad Thoughts]

33. It was a child taken from her cold dead hand, you fucktard!

You are on the wrong side of the barrel.

[1-Old-Man]

34. This SOB is blaming the shooting on everything on earth other than guns

[Gidney N Cloyd]

36. Code Pink protester there?

[KeepItReal]

103. Multiple!!! Big banners covered up LaPierre

and stopped him mid-speech twice so far.

[spanone]

37. now blame the media, go ahead wayne

[w8liftinglady]

38. I am so proud of Code Pink

They have shown what evil pricks these NRA bastards are

[Lint Head]

39. Protester! I knew it.

Good.

[MineralMan]

41. It's just what I expected them to do.

Screw 'em!

[1-Old-Man]

42. 2nd Protester hauled out of the room, and the room favors the protesters

The protesters who have been pulled from the room both had signs that were easily seen and read as they stood and were removed and also the way the room is set up they can be heard until they have been taken all the way out - so they are being quite effective so far. Good for them!

[MightyMopar]

43. La Pierre should be a the top of the insane person list he wants

Talk about a monster killing our kids

[nc4bo]

44. OMG is he really calling for militia types to guard our schools?!! What the hell!!

This man is batshit insane.

[IdaBriggs]

87. Pay for it with taxes on guns. Divide number of guns sold by annual salary...

Hmmm. Could be interesting.

(math: a county with 50,000 people and 20 schools would need 3 people per school @ $50,000 each annually, means $3,000,000 required additional revenue, added on to the bullets and guns sold in the area....)

Bears some thinking.

[nc4bo]

147. The NRA, as an organization, should also pay. Take their share of responsibility for a change. nm

[libdem4life]

206. Yes it does. Tax...tax...tax pretend it's cigarettes or booze.

[RomneyLies]

45. Hey Wayne, EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD WATCHES THE SAME SHOWS AND PLAYS THE SAME GAMES!

Why is it only in America that 10,000 people are murdered with a gun every year?

[Mrs. Overall]

46. Need more "good guys with guns" on campuses. Wow, unbelievable.

[JDPriestly]

132. I would not want to see my children facing guns in school every day.

That could cause nightmares and anxiety. It would make the children feel like prisoners.

What a monster this man is.

NRA members should quit that organization and form some new group that protects intelligent gun rights for those who need or want them for legitimate sports and good gun safety instruction with sane leadership.

[Kip Humphrey]

194. Call it Safe Management of Arms thru Regulations & Training: S.M.A.R.T.

[libdem4life]

202. This is my idea too...great anacronym...and fees and taxes up the wazoo.

Maybe gunners will decide that it's a bit expensive to own an arsenal. PSM ... Public Safety Militia? ... like the TSA ... Travel Security Administration. We have to keep thinking and communicating.

[TDale313]

47. Fuckin monster! n/t

[ecstatic]

48. This is shameful. We're dealing with a sick group of people

People who put guns above adults and children.

[barnabas63]

59. Shine the light on them, I say.....

He sounds completely deranged to me. This is a meltdown.

[AndyA]

49. I can't watch.

The man is a liar. He has the blood of thousands of innocent victims on his hands.

[GoCubsGo]

61. I'm listening via the Stephanie Miller Show.

Their commentary is making it a little more bearable. They're saying what I believe most people are thinking.

[AndyA]

95. Good idea, just tuned in - MUCH better!

Thanks for the reminder!

[NeelyCreely]

50. we need to repeal the 2nd amendment...then we can go after the othres

bes thing we can do is repeal 2nd and then go after the other amendments that cause problems like this in our society.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

72. Okey-dokey...

[cali]

73. oh please, little pumpkin. try harder.

[nc4bo]

81. WTH are you blathering about.

[obamanut2012]

85. F for effort

[PA Democrat]

102. Go crawl back in your cave.

[leftynyc]

112. Are you really this stupid?

Go back and tell your freeper friends it's time for them to sit down and shut the fuck up.

[JDPriestly]

141. No. Gun owners need to form a new group and elect some sane leadership.

Most parents are not going to want to send their children to a school to face an armed guard at the door.

That is not the image of a happy, carefree childhood that parents want for their children.

And private schools will not restore the innocence.

There has to a better solution, less emphasis on guns and shooting and violence in our society.

This Christmas would be a good time to renew our commitment to peace.

And we could start by cutting military programs, in particular our bases overseas, instead of decreasing funds to domestic programs that help American people.

[ecstatic]

144. Um, welcome to DU. Technically, it does need to at least be clarified,

and doing so would reveal that the 2nd amendment clearly doesn't mean what most of us were led to believe it meant:

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

It's too late to turn back 150+ years of practice. We can, however, ban assault weapons and have more regulations.

[Renew Deal]

161. I suspect you would like to get rid of the 13th as well.

[Tab]

162. Which other amendments did you have in mind?

The first, perhaps?

[barnabas63]

53. Honestly..how do you think this is going to go over with the American public?? nt

[old guy]

83. I would suggest not very well.

I am curious about how the media is going to respond. This is Friday, news dump day after all.

[Hoyt]

55. If anyone doubts how vile the NRA is, they ought not own guns.

The last thing I want is some NRA "good guy" -- who is steeped in guns -- trying to protect my family.

[obamanut2012]

56. Gun owner here -- ban the NRA from DU

[proud2BlibKansan]

60. That would be a good start

[PA Democrat]

108. It's beyond time for that. The NRA is evil.

[spanone]

57. this is really hard to believe. i really can't believe what i'm hearing.

[nc4bo]

65. I am horrified into utter disbelief spanone. My brain can't wrap around the words falling from his

lips.

Hell is too good for this creepy psycho.

[OneGrassRoot]

196. This is excellent, imho.

More and more the ones destroying this society are showing it...not trying to hide it at all.

Whether it's the NRA, calling for more guns, or the CEO Roundtable talking about how "they" set policy.

Good. Transparency is good.

No nuance. They're telling people in no uncertain terms exactly what their priorities are, and more and more people are paying attention.

Fewer and fewer people are choosing the same kind of world those douchebags have been creating for decades. Granted, they're out there and they're LOUD, but there are fewer of them.

We need to make them IRRELEVANT altogether.

[OneGrassRoot]

212. nc4bo...I'm so sorry, I meant to reply to the OP...

My bad.

[cali]

76. shocked horror is the only appropriate reaction.

[Mrs. Overall]

58. This is so outrageous. I think it will help the gun control cause.

[Disgraceland]

70. My question

I can't see the feed. But is it just bad offensive, or bad like they blew the PR battle bad?

[obamanut2012]

90. Bad in a totally horrible tone deaf PR way

[Shadowflash]

151. Without a doubt

Both.

[Pachamama]

79. Agreed - its surreal watching this play out.....

Wayne Lapierre talking about us needing more guns while you hear Codepink getting the message out about the NRA killing our kids....

I feel like I am watching the most bizarre event ever....as my blood boils.....

[footinmouth]

62. This is utter bullshit

This man is crazy. I can't believe I'm still listening to this.

[ecstatic]

64. If they keep pushing this "arm the teachers" meme, we will lose a generation

of potential teachers. There's absolutely no way the *right* kind of teachers will be attracted to the idea of teaching first graders while also having their assault rifles ready for combat. Should they also go through bootcamp?

[libdem4life]

193. This^^^^^and how would they be hidden safely in order to be ready for the shooter breaking through

the windows. or bursting down the door. While the teacher is concentrated on unlocking and retrieving the gun, and switching from reading teacher into Rambo Mode, accidently kills a kid and misses (or kills) the bad guy. The school and the teacher and the School Board and all of their assets could be LIABLE.

Most people don't think of Liability, but there is no way this is going to happen...it is not affordable. Liability Insurance would be sky high. A security guard is covered by their separate employer for their training and fitness for, not teaching, but protecting public places. That is not a teacher's job.

[cmd]

236. I'm sure he wants the teacher to be wearing a holster.

What an idiotic idea. I'm a retired teacher and would never agree to anything like this. Guns have no place in the school. Period.

[libdem4life]

242. Agreed. But I'm all for nervous parents and children feeling more secure with a friendly

Security Guard...a 21st century upgraded version of the Crossing Guard. We didn't used to need those, either.

[Skidmore]

66. Perhaps it is me, but I keep feeling like there is an under the radar threat being made.

What is this garbage about "one more natural disaster, etc."? This man's imaginings are just as bad as any film or video game. It is never the guns. He's trying to work up concern and a few tears.

He takes no responsibility for the arming of the nation.

[obamanut2012]

67. Just insanely tone deaf

Worse than still holding the NRA convention in Denver right after Columbine.

[Pisces]

74. This guy is sick piece of shit. I hope this implodes the NRA. No questions being taken after this

garbage???

[Mrs. Overall]

75. Now blaming Obama and the budget.

[Mrs. Overall]

82. Calling on Congress to put armed police in every single school.

[nc4bo]

91. And just who is supposed to pay for all this?! Time for the NRA to pay up stop sucking on the govt

teat to support their evil agenda.

Let THEM pay for it.

[libdem4life]

195. Absolutely.

[PA Democrat]

77. What a vile piece of shit. He is talking about "evil". He needs to look in the mirror.

[Raffi Ella]

80. He's an embarrassment to America.

I really can't believe what I'm hearing form this asshole.

[JoePhilly]

84. Dude is having a mental breakdown live on TV.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

93. I'm only listening via Stephanie Miller...

You can hear it in his voice. I can only imagine the video clips that will be on MSNBC tonight.

[JoePhilly]

104. Nut job won't be happy until every 6 year old is packing heat.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

126. He's marginalizing the NRA, which is good.

If you're a member of Congress thinking of voting for gun control, this guy just gave you political cover to do it. Clearly the NRA is not going to cooperate. This presser was just a massive "Fuck You" to the families of the adults and children killed in Newton, CT, and I would expect we'll be hearing from them soon.

[JoePhilly]

134. I'm hoping we start to hear of folks leaving the NRA in drives.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

137. Micheal Moore, years ago...

Suggesting that two million liberals should join the NRA and take over the organization. If they shed members like crazy (and get their total numbers down), Moore's suggestion might be a good idea.

[Chorophyll]

143. I hope you're right.

[spanone]

88. SHOCKER!!! gun lobby wants more guns

[Blueprogress]

89. piece of shit

Fuck you NRA. Blood on your hands. What a vile despicable sorry excuse for a human. Blame everything and everyone but guns because they are good my friends. The only gun problem that exist is that that more people need to be armed. More guns... more guns.... guns... fuck you NRA.

[Buns_of_Fire]

92. "...hatred of the NRA..."

Not necessarily, Wayne. We're not too damned fond of YOU, though. It's past time that the non-nut portion of the membership removes you and your sorry ass from any capacity to form policy for the organization.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

111. I just did some math...

According to the Department of Education, there are 130,000 public and private schools in the United States - not including colleges and universities. At $100,000 per year for salary, benefits, training, and supplies for a fulltime, armed security officer, that would come to $13 billion per year to put an officer in every school.

NRA going to pick up the tab?

[Buns_of_Fire]

170. Of course not. Buying congresscritters is EXPENSIVE!

They're only offering their so-called EXPERTISE to help set up the programs.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

176. Yes, of course...

Congress may be easy, but they're not cheap.

[theKed]

208. Oh yes.

High class prostitutes. And i use 'class' rather loosely.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

211. Gol Darn it, Mr. Lamarr

You use your tongue prettier than a twenty dollar whore...

[Jennicut]

198. Their money has more important places to go.

Teapartiers need to be able to win re-election and also build their mcmansions for the fun of it.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

230. AND they need to buy more Bushmasters before they get banned.

As somebody observed, "Have you noticed that the people most worried about Obama creating a police state are ALSO the people suggesting that we need to live under a police state?"

[libdem4life]

218. Yes. There are plenty of trained vets, retired military and police who could use the jobs.

Sensible from an employment prospective, as well as public safety, all while paid for by outrageous taxes and registration fees on guns. Remember that the Vet Employment Bill went down? No money.

Time to start thinking outside the box. Your kid's life could depend on it. It isn't just "them and theirs" anymore. It's "us and ours".

[hatrack]

96. Oh, good - Eddie the Eagle will be there to talk gun safety to the chilluns!

I can't fucking BELIEVE this - off-the-charts awful.

Flat-out sociopathic.

[Mr Peabody]

97. I'm thinking the NRA is leaning against going along with more gun control....

[Rex]

98. The NRA is a terrorist organization.

Pass it on. They want more deaths, not less.

[Raffi Ella]

118. +1

and anyone that would support them on DU should be banned.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

152. completely agree n/t

.

[Mrs. Overall]

130. I haven't felt this until this morning, but the NRA shouldn't be tolerated on DU. Not after this.

[Loge23]

169. Absolutely

LaPierre has blood on his hands.

[wordpix]

227. agree and if my innocent loved one died by a gun, I'd sue NRA and the manufacturer

plus every m-f-er in congress who's ever voted against gun control

[Joey Liberal]

239. So is the GOP

[Rex]

243. Which is why the GOP and the NRA are best friends.

Both groups need to go for the sake of our countries health and well being.

[rbrnmw]

99. I am so angry If schools decide

they are going to put people with guns (militia type's) in the schools to "protect" childen I will home school mine.

[Mr Peabody]

125. I have lived in Indiana & Tennessee... I could see it then loading up on this.. n/t

[libdem4life]

220. Thousands of parents have done just that....Homeschooled and formed Charter Schools.

Maybe you don't remember how those two terms got so maligned and feared ... well, their reasons were to them as yours are to you. If you check into those groups, you'll find a lot of great parents and kids.

[Mrs. Overall]

100. "national school shield emergency response program" That's what the NRA will develop. What????

[glinda]

116. They have NO RIGHT to develop anything. They need to go.

[Mrs. Overall]

122. the "shield program" is arming teachers and having police officers in schools

[glinda]

187. Am against.

[wordpix]

229. yeah, just what I want, anti-gov. types in the schools packing guns to protect everyone

no thanks

[hatrack]

101. "We can't wait?" You waited after Blacksburg, after Aurora, after Columbine

You waited fucking DECADES, you ASSHOLE.

[Mrs. Overall]

105. Now introducing Asa Hutchinson to speak!

[tjdee]

107. How much longer is this psycho going to speak?

I am SO GLAD that Obama is the president.

I am so angry I don't know what to do.

[hatrack]

109. Asa Hutchinson? A DHS Drug War asshole?

Fuck this.

[nc4bo]

110. Now I see why they won't be taking any questions. This is some seriously sick mess on display today

OMG

[nc4bo]

138. Blitzer telling lies/spinning on CNN. Says NRA called for armed police officers to guard schools.

That's not what I heard (if I'm not mistaken).......

[Mrs. Overall]

113. MSNBC just called it "most bizarre" press conference ever.

[chelsea0011]

114. A "National School Safety Shield Program" Huh? Guns, guns, and more guns

[Democratopia]

115. I have a plan

I won't talk to the schools, the head teachers, the politicians, the police, but I have a plan I insist is adopted if we really care about children.

This is the start of the end of the NRA

[Mrs. Overall]

117. MIchael Steele is speechless about this press conference on MSNBC

[bullwinkle428]

120. Will the NRA coddlers here at DU step up and try to defend this guy?

I'd LOVE to see them give it a try!

[hatrack]

121. It's all about selling guns. Selling more and more guns, which is all that it ever was about

They're like LBO specialists, except that they're involved in killing people, rather than killing jobs.

[chelsea0011]

123. NRA is the obvious choice to sponsor this program? They are insane.

[jillan]

128. I am even MORE determined after his presser to take him down.

[Hoyt]

131. Now, we'll have a bunch of Zimmermans trying for "armed good guy" designation. What a crock.

[Democratopia]

133. Such cowardice - NRA refuses to answer a single question

[judesedit]

135. The first victim was shot with her own gun. It's all about the money for them, just like the Kochs

[wordpix]

234. +10000, this group targeted selling military arms to the public & devised the "gov. is tyranny"

so you'd better arm up" campaign.

[Disgraceland]

139. Call them today and let your reps know it

Every phone number. I'm going to. Public shaming is a valid response. Make them a liability for every politician trying to have it both ways.

[Mrs. Overall]

140. I can't stand his repeated use of the term "good guys with guns". Very dumbed down language--

sounds like the very video games he is blaming.

[cmf]

142. "Guns don't kill people, violent movies do!" n/t

[Raffi Ella]

145. Just like Todd Aiken showed his cards, so did the NRA.

This was twisted display of just how insane they are, and the world is watching. Thank you NRA for being the lunatics that you are in front of the world. Now, no one will be able to support you without sounding like an insane asshole, too.

[budkin]

146. I'd be fine with a cop stationed at each school. Better than teachers having guns.

[nc4bo]

150. But, unless I'm mistaken, there was a call for armed security. Not specifically cops or x-military.

More like any joe blow willing to take their protect-our-schools course.

So now we'll have "good guys" blasting away at the "bad guys" with lil children caught in the crossfire.

What could possibly go wrong or be wrong about that?!

[arcane1]

171. Maybe they'll use Blackwater or whatever they call themselves now

What could go wrong?

[cali]

154. It's ridiculous. first of all, how the fuck do you pay for it? Secondly, who wants schools being

armed camps? Thirdly, who says this would even work? What's the evidence for that?

[ecstatic]

167. The guard/cop would be the first one killed in a well planned attack

I don't have a problem with a psychologically evaluated cop in each school. Arming teachers, however, should be out of the question.

As far as paying for it, I think local police departments would have to donate/volunteer officers, but that would mean less ticket revenue for the county. Perhaps they could increase taxes on guns and ammo?

[budkin]

182. Dunno how it would work but at least there would be one person there that might have a chance

to stop a shooter. And it being a cop it wouldn't be some random person trying to fire a gun.

[libdem4life]

224. We don't pay. They do. And I'd rather an armed camp than a crime scene. Yet I don't consider

the Mall, for instance, an armed camp. Just a safer place to shop given that mall shooting is going up. Security Guards are a far cry from an armed camp. Many schools already have them.

Would it work? Have a better idea? What? Wait until we round all the guns up? Wait until we have a top notch mental health system?

Forget the messenger and think proactively.

[Rex]

192. They were sticking cops in my high school way back in 1986.

Didn't solve a thing.

[Disgraceland]

148. Can captain kiss-ass David Gregory handle pushing him or not?

[grahamhgreen]

189. And go up against Big War? Not a chance.

[ecstatic]

149. The good news is, the NRA can't write laws

They're almost irrelevant right now. The pressure needs to be placed on lawmakers. I think repugs were given a clear way out this morning.

[nc4bo]

153. But they can sure buy the pols who create/pass the laws...

and that brings us around to another problem this country has tolerated for far too long.

[ecstatic]

159. Any member of congress who has not yet reached his/her line in the sand with regard to gun control

should be forced out of office. That means that person is completely and utterly bankrupt of morals and decency. Protecting students should be worth it, even if it costs them their seats/campaign donors.

[Disgraceland]

164. Manchin reached his limit...

Sight of hellish massacre moved him for almost 24 hours before Wayne yanked his chain.

[DinahMoeHum]

156. Wayne LP: Eat Shit And Die

preferably by one of your "penis substitutes"

[Disgraceland]

157. Next:Nancy Lanza will explain how guns help protect you

[kimbutgar]

160. And he blamed the video game manufacturers for the violent video games

A previous poster pointed out that on Scarborough this AM some republican cretin suggested this and this was probably going to be their approved talking point. Except it is the gun manufacturers and Fox who are making people crazy. Wayne needs to be put away in some quiet place where life is beautiful all the time because the guys in the white suits will be taking him away.

[Mutiny In Heaven]

190. Trend line between video game consumption and violence

Oops!

And before anyone starts, no, the rest of the world isn't playing Princess Fluffybunny's Big Rainbow Cloud Adventure In God Fearing Good Guy Land 7. Same games, for the most part.

[mtngirl47]

163. When he accused politicians for using this

terrible tragedy for "political gain." Are you kidding me?

[Aerows]

165. "Isn't fantasizing about killing people for kicks

the filthiest form of pornography"? Why yes, Mr. LaPierre. It is. And what do you think people running around with assault rifles with humongous magazines are doing, and actively emulating?

You blame people who watch a movie, you blame people who play a video game, and it's all their fault. It certainly couldn't possibly be the person who actually possesses the assault rifles and use them. It couldn't possibly be that for them, it's not just a fantasy that it is a reality.

A database for the mentally ill. Yeah, that will work out really well.

Here's the part that made me scream out "Because of you and your lobbyists you asshole!". When this horrible excuse for a human being had the NERVE to say that prosecutions for gun violations were lower.

Why in the fuck do you think that is? Could it be that you and your lobbyists have engineered legislation designed to put guns in every hand they can and make it legal?

I had to quit watching it at about 10 minutes in. I can't stand to see more. This was the most hypocritical, self-serving, outrageous and outright twisted piece of garbage I've ever heard.

[Bjornsdotter]

166. Facebook

....and their Facebook page is back up. Reading the response there are just disheartening, so many people thinking this guy is fliping genius.

WTF...I will never understand that mindset.

[Disgraceland]

175. On the other hand ...

As a New York Times op-Ed pointed out, those are the people who are driving middle class out of the GOP. We should publicize how unhinged they are to every suburban soccer parent. Lock up votes in Virginia, Colorado. Permanent minority party can whine about guns all they want if this is exploited right. ...?

[arcane1]

179. A mindset requires an actual mind

[Mockingjay]

168. Take a good look at evil..

Once you put armed guards in every school, then they will have to do the same for thearters, airports, churches, mall, on the streets, parks and god knows where else..... Isn't this what a police state will look like? NRA, gun nuts are all a bunch of dumbasses.

[ehrenfeucht games]

173. OCCUPY THE NRA!!! (nt)

[MNBrewer]

177. Let's pay for it with a 200-300% sales tax on guns and ammo

And a production tax on manufacturers. We do something like this with beer, we can do this with firearms. And introduce a "required-by-law" middleman, like in alcohol distribution if it's not already there.

[libdem4life]

232. Yep, and we can sure do a fine job regulating motor vehicles...300,000,000 of them.

Interesting, the similarity in the number of guns.

[MNBrewer]

246. This isn't a plan to limit the number of guns

it's a plan to fund LaPierre's whacky idea on the backs of his financiers.

[libdem4life]

247. Point: We regulate the bejeezus our of cars and gasoline

which then funds our roads and other factors of car sale, use, registration, tranfer law. There are 300 million cars. We can do it with guns, as well. Taxing the gigantic gun industustry..and all the adjunct industries they depend on. The funds are many and wide. It does not address how, but it's a model as everyone...the left included...has few ideas. At least ones that aren't expensive and don't take a decade or so.

[Politicub]

178. Thank you to the brave protesters!

The people who spoke out at the NRA's so-called press conference have a lot of courage.

And because of them, the majority opinion became part of the conference.

I do feel that the NRA's call for more guns and its tired hair-splitting on what makes something an assault rifle has run its course.

Maybe it's time for another GOP institution to fall apart like the party.

[world wide wally]

180. Proving that guns do in fact keep us safer...Just look at how well it worked out for Lanza's Mother

[kuba]

183. WAYNE IS ABSOLUTELY SICK in the head

This guy is out of his f'in mind.

[NICO9000]

184. Just posted this on another NRA thread

But I think it bears repeating over and over:

It's time for the government to call the NRA what it really is: a domestic terrorist organization.

[EC]

186. Well, yeah....

they're main objective is to sell guns, so of course more guns = solution. The hell with the fact that this sort of crime should not be accepted as the norm, which is what they seem to be okay with.

[rivegauche]

188. Gosh, imagine that, the answer is MORE GUNS.

I could have told you that's exactly what he was going to say.

[grahamhgreen]

191. Link to transcript:

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/newtown-sandy-hook-school-shooting/hc-full-text-nra-statement-from-dec-21-press-conference-20121221,0,3795861.story

[Iwillnevergiveup]

199. It's official

La Pierre has completely undermined his own evil organization and no-mind set.

WOW!

[liberalmuse]

201. He has so much blood on his hands.

If there is one, God help him.

[secondvariety]

207. He sounded scared.

The influence and power of the NRA is being questioned, and he knows it. Like cockroaches, the NRA doesn't like close inspection.

[el scorcho]

210. How to pay for increased access to mental health and more police

Tax gun sales to fund mental healthcare!

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/add-100-tax-purchase-all-firearms-fund-additional-police-and-access-mental-healthcare-resources/RMxBLK9S

[Ninga]

213. Really? More Guns??? Ain't gonna happen!!

[Buns_of_Fire]

216. LaPierre just made his appointment for six new anal orifices...

This afternoon on MSNBC, starting at 4:00 EST. First Martin, then Chris, then Rev. Al, then Chris (rerun), then Big Ed, then Rachel, then Lawrence (who may decide to rip him two, just for the hell of it). By my count, that'll give him at least seven, hopefully more.

[2AFE]

217. More waiting periods and background checks

Seems there should be a waiting period on stories printed/broadcast by the media. So many 'facts' are so often very wrong. They should have to verify all the facts prior to broadcasting a story. I'm thinking a 2 week wait to verify information would be acceptable.

Background checks on those in the media reporting said 'facts' should all be implemented. A person of unsound mind can certainly convey much false information meant only to hurt and inflame others.

We should infringe on all of our rights, not just the 2nd Amendment, that would make this a much more wonderful nation to live in.

[bettyellen]

235. Ha ha. Maybe you need to wait two weeks before you post silly bullshit.

[go west young man]

219. Instead of more guns a more intelligent approach would be to have

doors that open to the outside from each individual classroom thereby allowing people to escape in an emergency situation rather than hide in closets and under desks. The neanderthal approach of the NRA is oxymoronic in a "learning institution". Their approach caters to the limbic primordial brain rather than the higher mind. Another paradox is that they are encouraging militarization of public schools when they are the one's constantly telling us government is going to take "their" guns. What an absolutely confusing and absurd organization. Their uncouthness in light of this tragedy is astounding. The fact that they release this the Friday before Christmas also says a lot about their character.

[IggleDoer]

221. Guess who would have been the first one to volunteer for the "Good Guys with Guns" program?

Adam Lanza ... if he were alive today.

[d_b]

222. holy shit he actually name-dropped natural born killers and mortal kombat?

it's 1994, baby

[ErikJ]

225. NRA bloody hands

[PatrickS]

226. Youtube clip

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[Zoeisright]

228. If I was related to one of those 20 kids,

Wayne would not be using oxygen or water today.

[moondust]

233. Wayne LaPierre: Public Enemy #1

[hatrack]

238. Alerted - go fling your shit elsewhere, pistolmonkey

nt

[AllyCat]

240. Wayne, you miserable piece of filth.

Who cares how many die as long as the gun manufacturers make a heap of cash? I mean, what is more important here? Money is life to these scum.

[smirkymonkey]

241. F**K Him. I hope he burns in hell.

He makes me absolutely SICK!