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Trump Declares Rosie O'donnell Threat To Humanity -- Says He's Considering Revoking Her Citizenship (Original Post) MayReasonRule Jul 12 OP
Now if he were a real NAZI, he'd order her disappearance. Kid Berwyn Jul 12 #1
I hope everybody realizes, now, that the only reason he hasn't Eliot Rosewater Jul 13 #52
The approach is made to seem random. Kid Berwyn Jul 13 #54
So, in other words, he scared to death of Rosie O'Donnell? Walleye Jul 12 #2
Does this mean if Dems take the WH in 2028 republianmushroom Jul 12 #3
They can just go back dweller Jul 12 #5
and this is why birtright citizenship is so important DBoon Jul 12 #20
Like President Putz's mother? BonnieJW Jul 12 #31
The funny thing about that is, there wasn't any "legal" or "illegal" back in the first days. mucholderthandirt Jul 12 #43
Oh, please let it be so! Totally Tunsie Jul 12 #26
fuck that... revoke the citizenship of all MAGA lapfog_1 Jul 12 #28
Wouldn't that make us as horrible as they are? Nictuku Jul 12 #33
When is the Republican party going to realize Mossfern Jul 12 #4
They are just as insane as him LS0999 Jul 12 #11
Sorry Mossfern Jul 12 #15
They have always been in the US. The Constitution was written to preserve the rights of rich white guys. GoneOffShore Jul 12 #18
Sadists have 'always been' in every human society whathehell Jul 12 #41
Well Said! MayReasonRule Jul 13 #47
Thank you.. whathehell Jul 13 #49
Fascists Are Without Shame -- Fascists Embrace Depraved Malevolence As Their Purpose And Creed MayReasonRule Jul 13 #46
Can someone tell him he doesn't have the authority to take away someone's citizenship? kentuck Jul 12 #6
The SCOTUS just read your post tavernier Jul 12 #21
He's distracting the MAGAts from the Epstein files. Kingofalldems Jul 12 #7
BINGO johnnyfins Jul 12 #9
+1 dalton99a Jul 12 #22
For his next display of dignity he will moon Taylor Swift and Meryl Streep at his next televised press conference. Ping Tung Jul 12 #8
Yep, seems a real post - many outlets reporting it muriel_volestrangler Jul 12 #10
This is not just about Rosie, this smells like Trump choosing his arch-rival to test revoking citizenship... DSandra Jul 12 #12
He Might Want to Do That, but Even a President Can't. MineralMan Jul 12 #13
He will invent a mechanism and his supreme court will rubber stamp it DBoon Jul 13 #55
Perhaps, but I think that's very doubtful. MineralMan Jul 13 #57
That sounds like somebody exceeding their presidential authority. TheBlackAdder Jul 12 #14
It does, but he also has the SCOTUS Bettie Jul 12 #17
77 million people voted for this. Think about that. n/t flvegan Jul 12 #16
Way Too Many... ProfessorGAC Jul 12 #19
263 Million United States Citizens Did Not Vote For Donald Trump, 77 Million Did Vote For Him MayReasonRule Jul 12 #29
I'm not sure if flvegan Jul 12 #34
Depends Upon How You Think About It... : -) MayReasonRule Jul 12 #37
Kick dalton99a Jul 12 #23
Rosie has been right all the time newdeal2 Jul 12 #24
where was that post from? do you have a link? nt orleans Jul 12 #44
Here Ya' Go orleans... MayReasonRule Jul 13 #48
deflecting and projecting donald? AllaN01Bear Jul 12 #25
Like a 5 yr old threatening to tell mommy on big brother. appleannie1 Jul 12 #27
More distraction so we don't talk about Nigrum Cattus Jul 12 #30
Trumps facing a lot of problems right now; this is just a distraction D. Spaulding Jul 12 #32
NYers Starbeach Jul 12 #35
He is such a petty ass baby kimbutgar Jul 12 #36
Rosie O'donnell, a Threat To Humanity? Her only "crime" is disliking Donald Trump Wiz Imp Jul 12 #38
You MagaPublicans better huddle together and begin PRAYING I do not become President mkp Jul 12 #39
She got the fuck out orangecrush Jul 12 #40
Rosie's response made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Jul 12 #42
Imagine if President Biden had made those statements about a harsh critic Martin Eden Jul 13 #45
Professor Vladeck- Denaturalization and Expatriation LetMyPeopleVote Jul 13 #50
I posted this to your similar thread Bayard Jul 13 #56
Wait, am I confused or did King Trump just decree that Rosie O'Donnell be exiled? 0rganism Jul 13 #51
Once again Trump pushing the system to see what he can get away with Raven123 Jul 13 #53

Eliot Rosewater

(33,201 posts)
52. I hope everybody realizes, now, that the only reason he hasn't
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:47 PM
Jul 13

Deported or imprisoned or killed all non MAGA is he can't yet, but he will if we don't do something very drastic very soon.

I recently revisited a liberal message board where others always jumped on me when I said things like "Maga will absolutely engage in killing us or support Trump doing it without hesitation" and asked them if they remembered me saying that and their reaction. They were silent.

l did it here a lot too, just like now where I post video and podcast showing a near certainty musk and team interfered with this election, I am constantly jumped on.

sigh





Kid Berwyn

(21,386 posts)
54. The approach is made to seem random.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jul 13

But the same players seem always to pop up.



It's like they volunteered or somethin'.

Walleye

(41,468 posts)
2. So, in other words, he scared to death of Rosie O'Donnell?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:09 PM
Jul 12

Did the Supreme Court give him the right to revoke people’s citizenship? Why do other Republicans put up with this shit?

republianmushroom

(20,715 posts)
3. Does this mean if Dems take the WH in 2028
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:12 PM
Jul 12

they can take the citizenship of the whole damn trump family ?

DBoon

(23,984 posts)
20. and this is why birtright citizenship is so important
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jul 12

Without it, you can go back far enough in anyone's family tree, decide that an immigrant in this tree did not arrive legally, and revoke the citizenship of all their descendants.

BonnieJW

(2,977 posts)
31. Like President Putz's mother?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:45 PM
Jul 12

Let's deported him. But probably no country will take him

mucholderthandirt

(1,616 posts)
43. The funny thing about that is, there wasn't any "legal" or "illegal" back in the first days.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 09:38 PM
Jul 12

Anybody could come here. And did. The native citizens here didn't give the Pilgrims permission, or anyone after that. They just came.

Hell, on both sides of my family, we started coming here before there was even an "America" to come to! In about 1600, people from my father's and mother's families immigrated (from Scotland and Germany, respectively). My father's people to NC, and my mother's first to Pennsylvania and later down to NC.

But some of my ancestors are actually those first "Americans", and have been here for something like 25,000 years. So, how far back are we going to go? Because I think we should start with Trump's spawn and go back a few generations of his family first.

lapfog_1

(31,132 posts)
28. fuck that... revoke the citizenship of all MAGA
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:38 PM
Jul 12

arrest them, deport them to various war zones around the world or to concentration camps... and seize and auction off all their property ( thus finally reducing the debt ).

Nictuku

(4,289 posts)
33. Wouldn't that make us as horrible as they are?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:10 PM
Jul 12

The best revenge would be to politically, through elections, keep them out of the majority for the next 40 years.

Mossfern

(4,107 posts)
4. When is the Republican party going to realize
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:17 PM
Jul 12

and admit that this guy is bat shit crazy and needs to be removed from office before he kills us all.
How can they put up with this mishegoss?

Shame on them.

LS0999

(225 posts)
11. They are just as insane as him
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:32 PM
Jul 12

He needs to be removed from office and locked up but Rs will support another one spewing the same garbage.

Mossfern

(4,107 posts)
15. Sorry
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:40 PM
Jul 12

The naive me just doesn't get it.
I felt the same way about Viet Nam in the 1960's.

It must be something in the water or some biological warfare.
How has the US spawned so many sadists?

GoneOffShore

(17,870 posts)
18. They have always been in the US. The Constitution was written to preserve the rights of rich white guys.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:50 PM
Jul 12

whathehell

(30,205 posts)
41. Sadists have 'always been' in every human society
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:36 PM
Jul 12

and population. Their numbers are not confined
to particular nations.

Historically speaking, governing in the interests of the rich and powerful has been the universal norm, not an 'exception' exemplified by the US.





MayReasonRule

(3,564 posts)
46. Fascists Are Without Shame -- Fascists Embrace Depraved Malevolence As Their Purpose And Creed
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 11:13 AM
Jul 13

Fascism is defined by 'mishegoss'.

The GOP is a wholly fascist, ongoing criminal enterprise intent upon forevermore establishing a fascist oligarchy beholden to none.

All of those that support the same are the same.

Thus the mishegoss you're referencing defines the GOP and all of their supporters.

Happy Sunday to ya' and thank you for my newest word of the day...
'mishegoss' originating from the Hebrew word "meshuga," meaning "crazy" or "insane.

kentuck

(114,444 posts)
6. Can someone tell him he doesn't have the authority to take away someone's citizenship?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:19 PM
Jul 12

Could someone disabuse him of his fantasies?

tavernier

(13,816 posts)
21. The SCOTUS just read your post
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:52 PM
Jul 12

and are calling a meeting in an hour to pass a new law giving Rump that authority. They thank you and ask for forgiveness for their short sightedness.

Ping Tung

(3,080 posts)
8. For his next display of dignity he will moon Taylor Swift and Meryl Streep at his next televised press conference.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:24 PM
Jul 12

DSandra

(1,629 posts)
12. This is not just about Rosie, this smells like Trump choosing his arch-rival to test revoking citizenship...
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:32 PM
Jul 12

of even American born people, if he goes through with the threat. Such a power could be extreme punishment to anyone he doesn't like, and such a tactic was used by the Nazis earlier on to attack Jewish people back then.

MineralMan

(149,504 posts)
13. He Might Want to Do That, but Even a President Can't.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:33 PM
Jul 12

She was born in New York State, according to Wikipedia. As a natural, native-born American, there is no mechanism for removing her citizenship. Trump can't do it. Nobody can.

All of which demonstrates that Donald J. Trump is an ignoramus whose understanding of the Constitution is seriously limited.

So, she can simply tell him to pound some sand.

DBoon

(23,984 posts)
55. He will invent a mechanism and his supreme court will rubber stamp it
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 03:04 PM
Jul 13

He got away with leading a violent attempt to overthrow the US government, anything is possibel.

Bettie

(18,596 posts)
17. It does, but he also has the SCOTUS
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:46 PM
Jul 12

which seems to be delighted to do his bidding most of the time.

ProfessorGAC

(73,663 posts)
19. Way Too Many...
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 12:51 PM
Jul 12

...weren't actually paying attention.
They just wanted cheaper groceries & gas which he promised on day one.
Dopes!

MayReasonRule

(3,564 posts)
29. 263 Million United States Citizens Did Not Vote For Donald Trump, 77 Million Did Vote For Him
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:44 PM
Jul 12

Think about that.

MayReasonRule

(3,564 posts)
37. Depends Upon How You Think About It... : -)
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:30 PM
Jul 12


Here's to the restoration of our freedoms through our nation's return to reason's rule.

newdeal2

(3,435 posts)
24. Rosie has been right all the time
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:04 PM
Jul 12

Even back when this feud started, I couldn’t believe how Trump was acting.

Nigrum Cattus

(743 posts)
30. More distraction so we don't talk about
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:45 PM
Jul 12

Texas flood failure, Epstein, military occupation of L.A., etc.

D. Spaulding

(320 posts)
32. Trumps facing a lot of problems right now; this is just a distraction
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 01:51 PM
Jul 12

he's trying to get us to pay attention to something other than the way his MAGA minions are at war over Epstein, his court losses, the unpopularity of his policies ,etc.

Starbeach

(179 posts)
35. NYers
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:24 PM
Jul 12

Rosie speaks for all New Yorkers who knew Trump as a pathetic buffoon who needs constant attention. We couldn't believe the rest of the country was seduced by him.

Save us, Rosie!

Wiz Imp

(6,129 posts)
38. Rosie O'donnell, a Threat To Humanity? Her only "crime" is disliking Donald Trump
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 12

How weak can he be? She doesn't even live in the US, and her only comments about Trump these days generally come when she is interviewed. She's not really making unsolicited criticisms of Trump at this point.

mkp

(18 posts)
39. You MagaPublicans better huddle together and begin PRAYING I do not become President
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:46 PM
Jul 12

My first ORDER; all republicans and maga will be deported to Antartica immediately!
Order#2; replace the Supreme Court Justices that were deported!
Order#3; all former Dem Presidents shall assist in rebuilding America, better than before
Order#4; ALL REPUBLICAN MONIES (no matter where) SHALL BE CONFISCATED {they won't need it}
Order#5; ---- I will place a $ Zillion $ dollar Tariff on Antartica
Order#6 Murder-A-Largo shall be given special status as a place any migrant may seek safe harbor,,, and if ever another President of Evil shall arise he shall be Taken By Force to Murder-A- Largo and given over to whom he has been Evil towards.
Order#7 Rosie O'Donnel may have free access of her choice [phone,video, or in person] to Donald Trump in Antartica, and may also have the exclusive RIGHT to have done with Donald Trump as tickels her fancy.

Elections have consequences! Elect me. And watch the retaliation against MagaPublicanism for their Evil.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,564 posts)
42. Rosie's response made me smile
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:43 PM
Jul 12


Rosie O’Donnell responds to Donald Trump’s threat to revoke her citizenship in a post on Instagram alongside a photo of him with his best friend Jeffrey Epstein: “hey donald - you're rattled again? 18 years later and I still live rent-free in that collapsing brain of yours. you call me a threat to humanity - but l'm everything you fear: a loud woman. a queer woman. a mother who tells the truth. an american who got out of the country b4 u set it ablaze you build walls - I build a life for my autistic kid in a country where decency still exists. you crave loyalty - I teach my children to question power you sell fear on golf courses - I make art about surviving trauma you lie, you steal, you degrade - I nurture, I create, I persist. you are everything that is wrong with america - and I'm everything you hate about what's still right with it you want to revoke my citizenship? go ahead and try, king joffrey with a tangerine spray tan. I’m not yours to silence. I never was. Rosie 🇮🇪”

Martin Eden

(14,637 posts)
45. Imagine if President Biden had made those statements about a harsh critic
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 09:04 AM
Jul 13

Posting on social media "threat to humanity" and "revoke citizenship."

Not only would every Republican be screaming from the rooftops that Biden is an insane tyrant, the liberal media would admit the cheese slipped off Joe's cracker.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,564 posts)
50. Professor Vladeck- Denaturalization and Expatriation
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:30 PM
Jul 13

Here is a good analysis of denaturalization. It would be almost impossible for trump to strip Rosie of her citizenship without a nasty lawsuit

With President Trump threatening to revoke Rosie O’Donnell’s citizenship, it seems like a good time to re-up my explainer on denaturalization and expatriation — and why what Trump is suggesting is … not viable:

Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2025-07-12T18:40:26.584Z

https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/146-denaturalization-and-expatriation

For good reasons, it is difficult to denaturalize a U.S. citizen and even harder to expatriate one. As this week’s “Long Read” documents, Congress has provided for only a handful of circumstances in which the executive branch is empowered to pursue such a move; and the Supreme Court has recognized meaningful constitutional limits (and an entitlement to meaningful judicial review) even in those cases. As we’re seeing so often with the current administration, there may well be a legal avenue for at least some of what it appears to want to accomplish, but that legal avenue has too much, you know, law, interposing both substantive limits and procedural requirements between the President and his policy preferences......

Historically, and for good reasons, it has been exceptionally difficult for the government to involuntarily revoke an American’s citizenship. 8 U.S.C. § 1481 identifies seven classes of activities that can subject citizens to a loss of citizenship:

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.


As should be clear from this list, most of the circumstances involve behavior in which an individual has manifested a specific and voluntary desire to surrender their citizenship—and not when citizenship has been revoked as a punishment. And even for subsection (a)(7), the one part that doesn’t seem to require that on its face, the statute today includes an umbrella condition—that loss of citizenship depends upon whether the individual “voluntarily perform[ed] any of the [specified] acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality.”......

Section 1481 applies to all U.S. citizens. For naturalized citizens (i.e., those who become citizens after birth), there’s one additional basis for revoking citizenship—and that’s if and only if their citizenship was “illegally procured or . . . procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.” Here, too, the statute (and, almost certainly, the Constitution) requires notice and meaningful judicial review before an American’s citizenship can be stripped. As 8 U.S.C. § 1451(b) mandates,

The party to whom was granted the naturalization alleged to have been illegally procured or procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation shall, in any such proceedings under subsection (a) of this section, have sixty days’ personal notice, unless waived by such party, in which to make answers to the petition of the United States . . . .

Of course, the government can pursue denaturalization on broader grounds than it can pursue expatriation—since the Constitution doesn’t create a substantive right to naturalization in the same way it does for birthright citizenship. But the key is that here, too, the Supreme Court has regularly insisted not only on meaningful judicial review of denaturalization proceedings, but on construing the relevant statutes narrowly—including, most recently, in 2017. (For much more on the complexities of denaturalization, see this fantastic February 2020 “Practice Advisory” from the National Lawyers Guild and the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.)

In other words, although denaturalization is potentially available in more cases than expatriation, it still requires meaningful, individualized judicial review—review that holds the government to a significant burden in providing that an individual wrongfully obtained their citizenship, and not just that they engaged in questionable behavior thereafter. There is, simply, no easy, fast path to revoking any American’s citizenship without their consent—and there hasn’t been for decades. That may not stop the current administration from trying it anyway, or from removing citizens unlawfully and then resisting the legal consequences. But it’s important to be clear on what the actual legal authority for such maneuvers would be. Here, there isn’t any.

I was so sad to see Professor Vladeck leave the University of Texas Law School.

Bayard

(26,053 posts)
56. I posted this to your similar thread
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 03:05 PM
Jul 13

Jesus Pete! Is this what he's threatening now?!

Just because he doesn't like someone? We're all going to a third-world country then.

#7 describes him perfectly. It is incomprehensible to me why Congress did not convict him of insurrection.


0rganism

(25,249 posts)
51. Wait, am I confused or did King Trump just decree that Rosie O'Donnell be exiled?
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:39 PM
Jul 13

I don't think I like this series. The plot makes no sense, the pacing is uneven, and the acting sucks. Even the effects and make-up are lousy. It's like the producers didn't give the slightest fuck about audience retention.

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