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Rosie O'Donnell's response to the tyrant (Original Post) dalton99a Saturday OP
Well said, Rosie! bif Saturday #1
Gorgeous SuzyandPuffpuff Saturday #2
Exhibit A on resistance newdeal2 Saturday #3
And now what tariff percent will Ireland have to pay? 90? More? twodogsbarking Saturday #4
The consumer will be paying. All tariffs are a tax on the consumer..us Deuxcents Saturday #30
Rosn YepYep Saturday #5
Can't stand her, but in this case, she is right on. mwmisses4289 Saturday #6
Well done, Rosie! Hekate Saturday #7
"Dangerous old soulless man with dementia who lacks empathy compassion and basic humanity" red dog 1 Saturday #8
Excellent! SheltieLover Saturday #9
In other words he is a Republican ! Goblin812 Saturday #10
GOP Grotesque Obscene Pariahs amuse bouche Saturday #11
Welcome to DU LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #61
Rosie does know the convicted felon, rapist. republianmushroom Saturday #12
+1 dalton99a Saturday #16
"his own moral compass " speak easy Saturday #17
Excellent from Rosie to Traitor Fucked face. Cha Saturday #13
I am a really bad hater, speak easy Saturday #18
I, too would love to visit Iceland ybbor Saturday #23
Oh on! My eyes again... Mahalo Cha Saturday #26
They both sound magical! ybbor Saturday #33
Cool you lived on Maui.. Cha Saturday #46
You are on Kauai correct? ybbor Saturday #47
Yes.. &. Hanalei so beautiful and Cha Saturday #48
Ha! I was about to look up "Ireland hot springs." (nt) Pinback Saturday #35
IRELAND not Iceland OMGWTF Saturday #25
TY OMGWTF! ybbor just explained Cha Saturday #31
Love this! Joinfortmill Saturday #14
This fat old turd has ALWAYS out-weighed her too! wolfie001 Saturday #15
That tub of lard has a lot of nerve talking about anyone's weight. llmart Saturday #39
THIS! ALL DAY LONG!!! yobrault1 Saturday #19
Rosie's response made me smile LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #20
The president of the United States acting like a five-year old. bif Saturday #21
During his first term, he was confirmed to speak at the level of a fourth-grader, but I can only imagine where the fuck Karasu Saturday #22
That was pretty much my reaction, as well. GoCubsGo Saturday #29
Rosie! Rosie! Rosie! TalenaGor Saturday #24
Big note to myself and everybody! chouchou Saturday #27
Spot on, Rosie! mvd Saturday #28
More public figures should talk to and about him in that fashion. RockRaven Saturday #32
+1 dalton99a Saturday #44
Breathtaking!!! calimary Saturday #34
Love it malaise Saturday #36
Pow! Figuratively speaking, B.See Saturday #37
What she is saying is what I want to hear from every damn Democrat. That kind of outrage and that kind of honesty. Nanjeanne Saturday #38
Yes! llmart Saturday #40
Perfect Rosie! And 100% true. Evolve Dammit Saturday #41
If only everyone kacekwl Saturday #42
I heard the convicted idiotic pedfelon has a few 'dark actors' in his mob... Justice matters. Saturday #50
trump's working overtime trying to bury SOMETHING in the news. C Moon Saturday #43
Yep. dalton99a Saturday #45
Friends for 25 years. GoCubsGo Sunday #55
That doesn't even include him groping his own daughter Farmer-Rick Sunday #57
"....king joffrey with a tangerine spray tan.....". Spot on, a thousand times spot on! roflmao n/t Cheezoholic Saturday #49
You speak Truth. Do It Again! BurnDoubt Saturday #51
PREACH IT SISTER ROSIE Skittles Saturday #52
That's my girl! ReRe Sunday #53
Trump's projecting again bmichaelh Sunday #54
+1. Trump is the biggest threat to humanity. dalton99a Sunday #56
ding . this . AllaN01Bear Sunday #58
Wasn't she a big Bush supporter? bif Sunday #59
Her Wikipedia page seems to refute this. . . Stargleamer Sunday #60
Legal analysis from Professor Vladeck on trump's ability to strip Rosie of her US Citizenship LetMyPeopleVote Sunday #62
+1 dalton99a Sunday #63
When an American president with an authoritarian-style vision starts claiming abusive powers he does not have, it's best LetMyPeopleVote Monday #64
Rosie Heftylefty Monday #65

red dog 1

(31,429 posts)
8. "Dangerous old soulless man with dementia who lacks empathy compassion and basic humanity"
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 02:34 PM
Saturday

Best description of VonShitzInPantz I've ever seen.

Good for you, Rosie!

dalton99a

(89,383 posts)
16. +1
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:03 PM
Saturday
Amanda Frost, an expert on citizenship law at the University of Virginia School of Law, cited Supreme Court precedent.

“In 1967, the U.S. Supreme Court declared in Afroyim v. Rusk that the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment bars the government from stripping citizenship, stating: ‘In our country the people are sovereign and the government cannot sever its relationship to the people by taking away their citizenship,’” she said in an email.

Mr. Trump’s feud with Ms. O’Donnell dates back to 2006, when she mocked the president on “The View” for defending a Miss USA contestant roiled in a controversy. She questioned his own moral compass and role as a businessman. Mr. Trump, who at the time was best known for his show, “The Apprentice,” threatened to sue “The View” over her comments.

Soon after, Mr. Trump began hurling insults at Ms. O’Donnell, calling her “fat” and “wacko.” In a 2015 G.O.P. debate on Fox News, one of the moderators said, “You’ve called women you don’t like fat pigs, dogs, slobs and disgusting animals.” Mr. Trump interjected: “Only Rosie O’Donnell.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/12/us/politics/trump-rosie-odonnell-citizenship.html

Cha

(312,980 posts)
13. Excellent from Rosie to Traitor Fucked face.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:00 PM
Saturday

Rosie moved to Iceland! I'd love t visit there.. with their hot springs and healing waters.

TY

ybbor

(1,657 posts)
23. I, too would love to visit Iceland
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:41 PM
Saturday

However, I’d also love to visit Ireland, where Rosie moved.

Cha

(312,980 posts)
26. Oh on! My eyes again... Mahalo
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 04:03 PM
Saturday

for the correction, ybbor!

I guess that makes more sense.

My sister went to Iceland last year and the experiences they had and pictures... Nothern Lights!.. were every bit as great as I thought it would be.

ybbor

(1,657 posts)
33. They both sound magical!
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 04:36 PM
Saturday

Some day! You live in a pretty special place yourself. I lived on Maui forever ago. One of, if not the greatest, places I’ve called home.

Aloha

Cha

(312,980 posts)
46. Cool you lived on Maui..
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 07:47 PM
Saturday

Never been but I can see how beautiful it is 🌊🏝️🌈💙

My sister has been to Ireland 🇮🇪 too.. she gets around 🌎

ybbor

(1,657 posts)
47. You are on Kauai correct?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 08:23 PM
Saturday

I spent a week in Hanalei for a friend’s wedding years ago. Also beautiful!

Cha

(312,980 posts)
48. Yes.. &. Hanalei so beautiful and
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 08:37 PM
Saturday

What a lovely place on earth for a wedding 😎💕

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,212 posts)
20. Rosie's response made me smile
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:28 PM
Saturday


Rosie O’Donnell responds to Donald Trump’s threat to revoke her citizenship in a post on Instagram alongside a photo of him with his best friend Jeffrey Epstein: “hey donald - you're rattled again? 18 years later and I still live rent-free in that collapsing brain of yours. you call me a threat to humanity - but l'm everything you fear: a loud woman. a queer woman. a mother who tells the truth. an american who got out of the country b4 u set it ablaze you build walls - I build a life for my autistic kid in a country where decency still exists. you crave loyalty - I teach my children to question power you sell fear on golf courses - I make art about surviving trauma you lie, you steal, you degrade - I nurture, I create, I persist. you are everything that is wrong with america - and I'm everything you hate about what's still right with it you want to revoke my citizenship? go ahead and try, king joffrey with a tangerine spray tan. I’m not yours to silence. I never was. Rosie 🇮🇪”

bif

(25,884 posts)
21. The president of the United States acting like a five-year old.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:34 PM
Saturday

Un-fucking-real. He's like a little kid with his spats and revenge. WTAF?!?! Can you Imagine President Obama or Biden doing shit like this?

Karasu

(1,591 posts)
22. During his first term, he was confirmed to speak at the level of a fourth-grader, but I can only imagine where the fuck
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:40 PM
Saturday

we're at now.

GoCubsGo

(34,059 posts)
29. That was pretty much my reaction, as well.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 04:09 PM
Saturday

With everything going on in his country, and in the world, his top priority is fighting with effin' Rosie O'Donnell??? As if he hasn't already made this country a big enough laughingstock...

B.See

(5,834 posts)
37. Pow! Figuratively speaking,
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 05:36 PM
Saturday

right between the eyes and SPOT ON... loved every syllable of it.

Did she read him the fkn riot act, or did she read him the fkn RIOT act??

Nanjeanne

(6,290 posts)
38. What she is saying is what I want to hear from every damn Democrat. That kind of outrage and that kind of honesty.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 05:41 PM
Saturday

llmart

(16,620 posts)
40. Yes!
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 06:02 PM
Saturday

Both Rosie and AOC are showing the Dems how it needs to be done. Leave it to the women to be fearless.

Justice matters.

(8,622 posts)
50. I heard the convicted idiotic pedfelon has a few 'dark actors' in his mob...
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 10:39 PM
Saturday

Some from Russia? Just 'asking'...

GoCubsGo

(34,059 posts)
55. Friends for 25 years.
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 07:59 AM
Sunday

Never lived more than a 5 minute cab/golf cart ride from each other during that time--both in NYC and in Florida.

Farmer-Rick

(11,866 posts)
57. That doesn't even include him groping his own daughter
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:19 AM
Sunday

Everyone knows he's a pedo. They either don't care or deluding himself.

Is he still flying around in his BFF's private jet paid for by selling sex with little girls?

Cheezoholic

(3,095 posts)
49. "....king joffrey with a tangerine spray tan.....". Spot on, a thousand times spot on! roflmao n/t
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 09:14 PM
Saturday

ReRe

(11,699 posts)
53. That's my girl!
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 05:19 AM
Sunday

Wish I could be in Ireland at this moment too. I need a vaca so bad and it's only been 6 months into this debacle.
Cheers, dalton99a & Rosie!

bmichaelh

(865 posts)
54. Trump's projecting again
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 06:26 AM
Sunday

Most of what Trump accused O'Donnell of could apply to Trump.

He is projecting again.

"..not in the best interests of our Great Country.."

"..Threat to Humanity.."

bif

(25,884 posts)
59. Wasn't she a big Bush supporter?
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 10:55 AM
Sunday

I seem to recall she was a Republican not that long ago. Or am I confused?

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,212 posts)
62. Legal analysis from Professor Vladeck on trump's ability to strip Rosie of her US Citizenship
Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:33 PM
Sunday

Here is a good analysis of denaturalization. It would be almost impossible for trump to strip Rosie of her citizenship without a nasty lawsuit

With President Trump threatening to revoke Rosie O’Donnell’s citizenship, it seems like a good time to re-up my explainer on denaturalization and expatriation — and why what Trump is suggesting is … not viable:

Steve Vladeck (@stevevladeck.bsky.social) 2025-07-12T18:40:26.584Z

https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/146-denaturalization-and-expatriation

For good reasons, it is difficult to denaturalize a U.S. citizen and even harder to expatriate one. As this week’s “Long Read” documents, Congress has provided for only a handful of circumstances in which the executive branch is empowered to pursue such a move; and the Supreme Court has recognized meaningful constitutional limits (and an entitlement to meaningful judicial review) even in those cases. As we’re seeing so often with the current administration, there may well be a legal avenue for at least some of what it appears to want to accomplish, but that legal avenue has too much, you know, law, interposing both substantive limits and procedural requirements between the President and his policy preferences......

Historically, and for good reasons, it has been exceptionally difficult for the government to involuntarily revoke an American’s citizenship. 8 U.S.C. § 1481 identifies seven classes of activities that can subject citizens to a loss of citizenship:

(1) obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon his own application or upon an application filed by a duly authorized agent, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years; or

(3) entering, or serving in, the armed forces of a foreign state if (A) such armed forces are engaged in hostilities against the United States, or (B) such persons serve as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer; or

(4)(A) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years if he has or acquires the nationality of such foreign state; or (B) accepting, serving in, or performing the duties of any office, post, or employment under the government of a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after attaining the age of eighteen years for which office, post, or employment an oath, affirmation, or declaration of allegiance is required; or

(5) making a formal renunciation of nationality before a diplomatic or consular officer of the United States in a foreign state, in such form as may be prescribed by the Secretary of State; or

(6) making in the United States a formal written renunciation of nationality in such form as may be prescribed by, and before such officer as may be designated by, the Attorney General, whenever the United States shall be in a state of war and the Attorney General shall approve such renunciation as not contrary to the interests of national defense; or

(7) committing any act of treason against, or attempting by force to overthrow, or bearing arms against, the United States, violating or conspiring to violate any of the provisions of section 2383 of title 18, or willfully performing any act in violation of section 2385 of title 18, or violating section 2384 of title 18 by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, if and when he is convicted thereof by a court martial or by a court of competent jurisdiction.


As should be clear from this list, most of the circumstances involve behavior in which an individual has manifested a specific and voluntary desire to surrender their citizenship—and not when citizenship has been revoked as a punishment. And even for subsection (a)(7), the one part that doesn’t seem to require that on its face, the statute today includes an umbrella condition—that loss of citizenship depends upon whether the individual “voluntarily perform[ed] any of the [specified] acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality.”......

Section 1481 applies to all U.S. citizens. For naturalized citizens (i.e., those who become citizens after birth), there’s one additional basis for revoking citizenship—and that’s if and only if their citizenship was “illegally procured or . . . procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.” Here, too, the statute (and, almost certainly, the Constitution) requires notice and meaningful judicial review before an American’s citizenship can be stripped. As 8 U.S.C. § 1451(b) mandates,

The party to whom was granted the naturalization alleged to have been illegally procured or procured by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation shall, in any such proceedings under subsection (a) of this section, have sixty days’ personal notice, unless waived by such party, in which to make answers to the petition of the United States . . . .

Of course, the government can pursue denaturalization on broader grounds than it can pursue expatriation—since the Constitution doesn’t create a substantive right to naturalization in the same way it does for birthright citizenship. But the key is that here, too, the Supreme Court has regularly insisted not only on meaningful judicial review of denaturalization proceedings, but on construing the relevant statutes narrowly—including, most recently, in 2017. (For much more on the complexities of denaturalization, see this fantastic February 2020 “Practice Advisory” from the National Lawyers Guild and the Immigrant Legal Resource Center.)

In other words, although denaturalization is potentially available in more cases than expatriation, it still requires meaningful, individualized judicial review—review that holds the government to a significant burden in providing that an individual wrongfully obtained their citizenship, and not just that they engaged in questionable behavior thereafter. There is, simply, no easy, fast path to revoking any American’s citizenship without their consent—and there hasn’t been for decades. That may not stop the current administration from trying it anyway, or from removing citizens unlawfully and then resisting the legal consequences. But it’s important to be clear on what the actual legal authority for such maneuvers would be. Here, there isn’t any.

I was so sad to see Professor Vladeck leave the University of Texas Law School.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,212 posts)
64. When an American president with an authoritarian-style vision starts claiming abusive powers he does not have, it's best
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 01:33 PM
Monday

When an American president with an authoritarian-style vision starts claiming abusive powers he does not have, it’s best not to look away.

Targeting a critic, Trump claims a power he does not have in new authoritarian move

flip.it/Q3n3xy

(@gypsydaveh.bsky.social) 2025-07-14T16:06:28.680Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/rosie-odonnell-trump-threatens-citizenship-power-rcna218623

NBC News reported on Saturday that Donald Trump threatened to take away comedian Rosie O’Donnell’s U.S. citizenship — because he doesn’t like her. The message he posted to his social media platform read in part:

Because of the fact that Rosie O’Donnell is not in the best interests of our Great Country, I am giving serious consideration to taking away her Citizenship. She is a Threat to Humanity, and should remain in the wonderful Country of Ireland, if they want her.


.....To hear Trump tell it, O’Donnell used speech he found objectionable, which has led him to give “serious consideration” to stripping the comedian of her U.S. citizenship. Implicit in the statement is the president’s apparent belief that he has such power.

He does not. As NBC News’ report noted, Trump cannot legally take away Americans’ citizenship because that presidential authority simply doesn’t exist.

Amanda Frost, an expert on citizenship law at the University of Virginia School of Law, told The New York Times, “In 1967, the U.S. Supreme Court declared in Afroyim v. Rusk that the Citizenship Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment bars the government from stripping citizenship, stating: ‘In our country the people are sovereign and the government cannot sever its relationship to the people by taking away their citizenship.’”

Trump, however, doesn’t appear to understand this — or more to the point, doesn’t seem to care. An American citizen criticized him in ways he did not like, leading him to believe he should consider taking away his critic’s citizenship, as if this were somehow normal in our constitutional system.

It comes against a backdrop of Trump threatening to deny funding to cities that govern in ways he doesn’t like. Which came on the heels of Trump threatening to prosecute a news organization for running reports he didn’t like. Which came on the heels of Trump musing publicly about arresting a Democratic candidate he doesn’t like. Which came on the heels of Trump floating the possibility of deporting American citizens. Which came on the heels of Trump endorsing the arrest of a Democratic governor who has opposed the White House’s agenda. Which came on the heels of Trump ordering a Justice Department investigation into his Democratic predecessor without cause.

And that’s just from the last month or so.

The idea of two prominent public figures engaging in some kind of “feud” is forgettable, but when an American president with an authoritarian-style vision starts claiming abusive powers he does not have, it’s best not to look away.

Heftylefty

(18 posts)
65. Rosie
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 06:54 PM
Monday

The ONLY reason citizenship can be stripped from a natural-born American citizen is treason. Rosie's not the one who should be worried.

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