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bigtree

(91,907 posts)
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:16 PM Saturday

Fla. Dems tour concentration camp: "It's 34 people per cage. They drink, brush, and defecate in the same tiny unit."

Brian Allen @allenanalysis
🚨Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz just toured “Alligator Alcatraz” and came out shaking: “It’s 34 people per cage. They drink, brush, and defecate in the same tiny unit. The photos don’t come close to the stench of it.”

We’re packing human beings into kennel conditions, then calling it justice.


“Disturbing, disgusting”: Florida Democrats condemn ‘Alligator Alcatraz’ conditions after tour

Florida Democrats toured Alligator Alcatraz after filing a lawsuit over denied access. A press conference was held after their tour, where they shared the 'inhumane' living conditions they witnessed.

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...also:

Members of Florida Congress speak prior to their tour of 'Alligator Alcatraz'

Democratic lawmakers said they plan to attend Saturday's event but called it a "staged, scripted, and sanitized tour." They said they intend to return to the facility "unannounced for true oversight." Members of Florida Congress gave a press conference before their tour of the facility.

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Fla. Dems tour concentration camp: "It's 34 people per cage. They drink, brush, and defecate in the same tiny unit." (Original Post) bigtree Saturday OP
This is what they do in third world countries. milestogo Saturday #1
Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz after touring "Alligator Alcatraz": LetMyPeopleVote Saturday #2
Abu Ghraib on American soil Aviation Pro Saturday #3
The cage is the latest representation of BOSSHOG Saturday #4
trump applauds, Bayard Saturday #5
"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons." - Fyodor Dostoevsky sop Saturday #6
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. bigtree Saturday #7
Two great quotes from sop and bigtree! calimary Saturday #9
It's hildegaard28 Saturday #8
Torture chambers... dlk Saturday #10
I would give anything if only... llmart Saturday #11
I can't even imagine how bad it will be if they show up unannounced. Emile Saturday #12
Where are the pictures? Greg_In_SF Saturday #13
Banned by DHS/ICE Wiz Imp Saturday #15
I've looked for the size of the cages but came up empty so far. Anyone else seen or heard the size reported? Wiz Imp Saturday #14

Bayard

(25,956 posts)
5. trump applauds,
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:25 PM
Saturday

And his minions cheer, "Its what they deserve!"

There is a malignant cancer in this country now.....

sop

(15,160 posts)
6. "The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 03:30 PM
Saturday

bigtree

(91,907 posts)
7. Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 05:10 PM
Saturday
“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. We are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny. Whatever affects one directly, affects all indirectly.”

― Martin Luther King Jr., Letter from the Birmingham Jail

calimary

(87,039 posts)
9. Two great quotes from sop and bigtree!
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 05:41 PM
Saturday

I’m keeping copies. Every weekend my Indivisible group issus our Call to Action email, which ALWAYS opens with a good quote.

Don’t wanna forget these!

llmart

(16,620 posts)
11. I would give anything if only...
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 05:55 PM
Saturday

someone would put 34 Republicans starting with the top two and his cabinet in one cage and leave them there for at least a month.

Wiz Imp

(5,971 posts)
15. Banned by DHS/ICE
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 08:42 PM
Saturday

I've seen some suggest that someone may be able to get drones inside to take pictures/video. I have no idea if it's realistic or not, but you can bet the Government is never going to allow media to take any pictures or video of the conditions. Even Some MAGAs might be disgusted by the conditions.

Wiz Imp

(5,971 posts)
14. I've looked for the size of the cages but came up empty so far. Anyone else seen or heard the size reported?
Sat Jul 12, 2025, 08:37 PM
Saturday
https://www.cleveland.com/datacentral/2016/07/how_to_calculate_crowd_estimat.html#:~:text=In%20a%20loose%20crowd%2C%20a,occupies%20about%204.5%20square%20feet.

How many square feet does a person take?
In a loose crowd, a person occupies roughly 10 square feet. This means each person is about an arm's length from the body of the next person. In a more tightly packed crowd, a person occupies about 4.5 square feet.


The media reports have said there are 32 beds per cage. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz said 34. Regardless once you account for the space the beds take up, if you've seen any picture from inside the place, there doesn't seem to be much excess space to move around.

As for the conditions, here's a few other media reports beyond the one included in the OP.
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/national-international/detained-immigrants-alligator-alcatraz-say-worms-in-food-wastewater-on-floor/3866748/
At the brand new Everglades immigration detention center that officials have dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz,” people held there say worms turn up in the food. Toilets don't flush, flooding floors with fecal waste, and mosquitoes and other insects are everywhere.

Inside the compound's large white tents, rows of bunkbeds are surrounded by chain-link cages. Detainees are said to go days without showering or getting prescription medicine, and they are only able to speak by phone to lawyers and loved ones. At times the air conditioners abruptly shut off in the sweltering heat.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/detainees-describe-worms-food-sewage-beds-inside-alligator-123683291
MIAMI -- Worms in the food. Toilets that don't flush, flooding floors with fecal waste. Days without a shower or prescription medicine. Mosquitoes and insects everywhere. Lights on all night. Air conditioners that suddenly shut off in the tropical heat. Detainees forced to use recorded phone lines to speak with their lawyers and loved ones.

Only days after President Donald Trump toured a new immigration detention center in the Florida Everglades that officials have dubbed “Alligator Alcatraz,” these are some of the conditions described by people held inside.


https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/detainee-being-held-at-alligator-alcatraz-describes-conditions-at-everglades-facility/3653144/
Florida still has not released the number of people being detained at what they call "Alligator Alcatraz" – but for the first time, we’re hearing from several men who are being held inside the facility.

Leamsy Izquierdo, also known as Leamsy La Figura, a self-described Cuban urban artist, was arrested for a violent incident and has been at the detention center out in the Everglades since Friday.

"There is no water here to bathe," he told Telemundo 51, adding it's been four days since he showered. He believes there are about 400 people inside the facility. "They give you food only once a day, food that even has worms in it," Izquierdo said. Detention center lights are always on, 24/7, he said, and the mosquitoes are "the size of elephants."
He said they are not allowed to go outside, and the tents are freezing.

Izquierdo’s partner, Katia, says he’s a permanent resident who was arrested last week. He was first taken to Turner Guliford Knight Correctional Center, then to Miramar and finally to the Everglades facility. "I don't think it's humane to have people in those conditions," Katia said.


The conditions are clearly inhumane. I'd say they're barbaric, sadistic and unspeakably evil.
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