FINALLY!!! The President NAILS IT on Social Security.

[cui bono]

Now let's try to get the current DEM president on board, shall we?

Or are you STILL going to defend him on this issue?

[ecstatic]

1. There won't be cuts nt

[cui bono]

2. They've already been offered.

Even if there aren't cuts this time, PBO had made it common place to put SS on the table. There will be cuts, it's now just a matter of when.

[ecstatic]

5. They could just as easily put a unicorn on the table

The numbers aren't there.

[cui bono]

12. Unicorns are real???

Yay!

You are not helping your case by offering up nonsense to support it.

[ecstatic]

14. OK. I bet you a star that you're wrong. nt

[cui bono]

18. Please name it cui bono and tell me which one it is. Thanks!

You said it's just as easy to put a unicorn on the table but PBO ALREADY put SS on the table. He seems to have forgotten or doesn't care about everything Reagan said in the video.

[Honeycombe8]

30. Russia just claimed to have found a unicorn resting place or something. nt

[JHB]

7. I'll share your confidence when it is as "on the table" as Eisenhower-era taxes...

...or if the debate turns to the best ways to expand it.

We live in an era where attacks on every lever of income security for ordinary people has been the routine course of business for three decades, to the point where it has become a virtual religious dogma for one political party and has made strong inroads into the leadership of ours under the rubric of being "pro-business". Conservative billionaires have funded "bipartisan" organizations to lobby for "entitlement reform" that invents or inflates some problems, then freely conflates them with real issues (such as rising medical costs). They then advocate "reforms" that amount to cuts while never suggesting practical ways to boost revenue (like raising the cap).

I'm glad the dike wasn't breached this time, but you'll understand if I wait until it's clear the tide has gone out before thinking we can stop filling sandbags.

[woo me with science]

10. There will be austerity

either way. This scam was deliberately set up to ensure that.

The corporate game will not change until we refuse to play our grateful parts
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022046840

And our President has validated for the entire country a vicious lie about Social Security, ensuring that we will continue to fight this battle for years to come.

[JoePhilly]

3. More manufactured outrage

[cui bono]

4. Outrage? This is just a fact being presented.

Why do you react in such a way as to call it outrage?

[kiva]

6. There is something very wrong

when we can quote Reagan on SS and Nixon on health care and they sound more rational than our current Dems.

[woo me with science]

9. Indeed. nt

[limpyhobbler]

11. yikes that's true

[cui bono]

25. And then be told on this board that PBO is plenty progressive enough for them.

[leftstreet]

8. DURec

Nicely done

[bvar22]

13. So Obama's claim that he is an 80s era Republican isn't true.

Obama says he'd be seen as moderate Republican in 1980s
http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/272957-obama-says-his-economic-policies-so-mainstream-hed-be-seen-as-moderate-republican-in-1980s

In reality, President Obama is a good bit to The Conservative RIGHT of the 80s Era Republican leadership.



No wonder I have so much contempt for today's
"Centrist-Moderate" 3rdWay/DLC Democrats.
I absolutely despised 80s era Republicans.

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[cui bono]

24. +1

As always.

[byeya]

28. 1880s I guess

[MannyGoldstein]

31. Well... He's to the right of Nixon and Eisenhower

So not 70s, 60s, or 50s either.

I'd say a 1990s Republican. Late 1990s.

[octoberlib]

15. I cringed yesterday when Joe Scarborough said

that if Obama's willing to sell out his own party the Republicans would be stupid not to jump on it and accept the offer.

[cui bono]

19. I cringe when so many in his own party defend him selling them out.

Most likely a lot of them wonder why Republicans keep voting for people who don't represent their interests.

[octoberlib]

22. +1000!

[closeupready]

16. K&R

[99Forever]

17. K&R

[rivera]

20. than our current Dems

than our current Dems

[spanone]

21. fail.

[Demo_Chris]

23. Win

It's amazing how far we have come.

[MannyGoldstein]

26. Who? Who?

Who's that left-wing nut?

Very unsensible.

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended for a "moderate Republican of the 1980s."

Thanks for the thread, cui bono.

[cui bono]

29. My pleasure. n/t