Wouldn't that bad guy with a gun go after the good guy with a gun before he kills any kids?

[proud2BlibKansan]

I mean, wouldn't that be the logical way to carry out a school shooting if there was a good guy with a gun in the building? I'm not a bad guy but that's what I would do.

This is just a really stupid idea. Not as stupid as arming teachers but still stupid.

[cthulu2016]

1. That's why there's another armed guard to guard the armed guard, silly.

Stack 'em up to infinity.

[proud2BlibKansan]

2. So instead of a billion dollars, we would need TWO billion to put armed good guys in every school?

Let me get my check book . . .

[russspeakeasy]

3. and randomly arm 2 of the kids in the class.

[uponit7771]

5. ...with ar-15s or frog nukes? They have a right to bear arms too yah no... /sarcasm

[russspeakeasy]

9. I would suggest hand grenades..

I can't see any possible problem with that. . and you're right, they have a right to protect themselves..

[uponit7771]

4. Not if he didn't know who they "good guy with gun" was...

[Gidney N Cloyd]

6. But the good guys would be trained to shoot the gun out of the bad guy's hand, Roy Rogers-style.

[liberal N proud]

7. BINGO!

Same if you armed the teachers.

Not only that you now have another weapon available to the killer!

[LynneSin]

8. You need to stop using logic when posting questions about guns

Trust me - lack of logic will help this all make sense

[proud2BlibKansan]

16. So that's where I screwed up. Thanks.

LOL

[LynneSin]

20. I find it's one of the things we progressives find challenging.

Everytime we try to think without logic it creeps back in there and takes over.

[OldDem2012]

10. Or worse yet, the bad guy enters the school on the opposite side of the building from where the....

....good guy is located. How long will it take for the good guy to get to the scene of the shooting?

Really dumb idea!!

[riqster]

11. No, because good guys have magical powers

So they always die heroically, killing yhe bad guy and protecting the innocent.

I saw it in a Hollywood movie, so it MUST be true...

[russspeakeasy]

12. How about a giant net that drops down from the ceiling, or

attack dogs roaming the halls..I know it's stupid, but it's as good as wayne came up with.

[Iris]

13. Yes. They totally ignore the research* that is out there

Usually in these cases, the "bad" gunman has planned the episode long in advance. They would account for an armed guard.

*When I say research, I mean the research that is allowed to exist and be public. Apparently the gun lobby has been successful in keeping research about gun violence done by the government under wraps, even making rules that forbid the CDC from even conducting such research.

[Bigmack]

14. I keep posting... everywhere...

Do you imagine some kindergarden teacher... even heavily armed and trained... kindergarten teacher is gonna be able to “hold 'em and squeeze 'em” while under fire and trying to shield her kids..? Somebody who has never fired a round in combat is going to calmly fire a head shot on somebody wearing body armor? Dream on. The "Die Hard" movies are not documentaries.

Where is the teacher going to wear or store their weapon? Kids get into everything in classrooms. Any teacher will tell you about how their keys/purse/grade book was stolen. Imagine a handgun going adrift in a school. You really want teachers wearing a handgun at their waists? That’s a recipe for an accidental discharge. If the teacher’s weapon is locked away securely, how long would it take to retrieve it in an emergency?

Ever hear of fratricide... blue on blue... friendly fire...? It happens with the best of trained troops. Think Pat Tilman. Now think 3 or 4 untrained shooters spraying rounds around a school. I've been in firefights, and I can tell you it's not like the movies.

With teachers - or anybody else - you're talking about a bloodbath before the bad guy gets off a single round. How would the teacher/guard know that anybody with a weapon wasn't the bad guy? They’d shoot each other, or more probably miss and kill those they are trying to protect.

And what do think the cops are going to see when they arrive...? A teacher standing there with a weapon. Bye-bye (hero) teacher!

Teachers are trained to teach. They are not warriors. These days, I'd even be nervous having a cop armed with a handgun on campus... he could be overpowered and the weapon used on students.

I have no idea what to do to stop the school shootings, but I know arming the teachers or students is the dumbest goddam idea I've heard in some time.

Besides, teachers - especially elementary teachers - are surrogate parents, counselors, nurses.....are you gonna ask them to be armed guards, too.? Anybody willing to pay teachers combat pay..?

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. YES! Wish I could rec your post.

Absolutely everything you said.

[backscatter712]

15. Armed guards are a reactive solution.

Barring posting at least one in every classroom, the armed guard will arrive at the scene of the crime too late in almost all cases.

[IggleDoer]

17. If a mentally unstable person was plotting to mass murder a group of people ...

... the first thing he would do is apply for a position as a security guard.

[spanone]

19. sure he would. in ct it would have been 27 dead.