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President Donald Trump, in a stunning Truth Social post Wednesday, branded the Jeffrey Epstein story which has been perpetrated by the highest ranking members of his Justice Department for years a hoax.Scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at Its all they have They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates, Trump said. He added, Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this bullshit, hook, line, and sinker. They havent learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years.
The president made clear he no longer wants the support of those who remain interested in the Epstein investigation.
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/trump-melts-down-over-epstein-hoax-slams-supporters-who-believe-this-bullsht-i-dont-want-their-support-anymore/

ms liberty
(10,425 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,257 posts)but I don't expect that this is going to bring Trump down in any way, shape or form. Let's face it, the MAGAts have pretty much had things going 100% their way since the election, this is just the first bump in the road for them. Nothing unites people like a common enemy, and that's where Trump is going with this. My prediction is that it will blow over when the next crisis comes. I'm not getting my hopes up, been there, done that.
JustAnotherGen
(35,992 posts)to fire Jerome Powell and let the ensuing financial destruction distract me from the #EpsteinFiles.
orangecrush
(25,881 posts)newdeal2
(3,465 posts)Not the actual crimes of course, but he has been peddling filth and conspiracies for decades.
Now its all a hoax and you better get with the program or youre dead to him.
riversedge
(76,811 posts)Grim Chieftain
(440 posts)Anyone else with his temperament, obesity, and horrible diet would have stroked out years ago.
Ursus Rex
(408 posts)And has the trappings of great wealth, so he gets the absolute best treatment for anything that would hurt his lifestyle. I like to think that he's doing crazy secret clinic treatments and pharma cocktails that the rest of us could hardly imagine, let alone afford.
Joinfortmill
(18,674 posts)BoRaGard
(6,583 posts)republicons not ever going to get into heaven...
et tu
(2,368 posts)standing room only in hell~
Uncle Joe
(62,500 posts)The problem is, his cabinet isn't really made up of MAGA believers so much as plain and simple sycophantic oligarchs; who have truly written off the best interests of the American People if they ever considered them in the first place.
Thanks for the thread Pototan
soldierant
(8,774 posts)They don't hold special elections for the Pr4sidency. We'd be stuck with JD Vance - and a bunch of other sycophants who may be psychopathic, but are not demented.
Uncle Joe
(62,500 posts)*rump is obviously unfit for office and if JD Vance isn't demented, that should decrease the chances for stumbling into World War III.
The other upside is it should actually demonstrate some measure of an executive guard rail for whoever takes over power.
*rump has most blatantly dragged the GOP into moral dishonor, increasingly apparent even among their own people, so regardless of whoever takes over during the remainder of his term, they will be facing stiff headwinds.
soldierant
(8,774 posts)Irish_Dem
(72,738 posts)calimary
(87,197 posts)Grim Chieftain
(440 posts)
spanone
(139,722 posts)IS HE DEAD YET?
Pototan
(2,760 posts)Aristus
(70,493 posts)Couldnt they just say Trump says something characteristically crazy that the media will sane-wash, for which he will suffer no consequences, which will be ignored by anyone who could do anything about it, and will be forgotten the next time he posts crazy shit?
I wish he really would melt down. We could get a hazmat crew in to clean up the toxic sludge, and then wed be rid of him for good.
Hornedfrog2000
(423 posts)On this site that constantly post links to videos, etc. That have inflamatory titles to get you to click on it for advertisement money for themselves.
Skittles
(166,338 posts)yes INDEED
BumRushDaShow
(157,341 posts)

Skittles
(166,338 posts)such a freak
Beartracks
(14,019 posts)And then there's Trump later that day, saying stupid stuff somewhere, and it's clear it didn't actually go down like that.
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MorbidButterflyTat
(3,375 posts)

oregonjen
(3,573 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,311 posts)surfered
(8,194 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(57,311 posts)PatSeg
(50,672 posts)Guess he thinks it sounds more official and important.
Prairie Gates
(5,734 posts)PatSeg
(50,672 posts)bluesbassman
(20,307 posts)He fancies himself as a strongman, authoritarian ruler, so patterning himself after Yul Brenner in The Ten Commandments fits the bill.
Plus hes an A- hole.
róisín_dubh
(12,082 posts)I feel like Im being lectured by a school principal over a PA system
OldBaldy1701E
(8,480 posts)I bet he says the same thing to his 'conquests'.
Baitball Blogger
(50,597 posts)First, he's recognizing that he's losing his core support. And Second, this level of projection is definitely Top Gun.
Pototan
(2,760 posts)mac56
(17,776 posts)Hornedfrog2000
(423 posts)Pedophile donald
Justice matters.
(8,678 posts)It's never him. It's always his brother.
Owens
(550 posts)Then why was Epstein unalived in jail and Ghislaine is in jail now holding the cards in hopes of getting a pardon?
allegorical oracle
(5,439 posts)Biden wasn't responsible for ending Epstein's crime spree.
Arazi
(8,208 posts)😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
More of this please!
CarolinaNC
(120 posts)mwmisses4289
(1,656 posts)(much of which turned out to be true),
and the whole Russia thing, he kept yelling hoax!hoax! until some believed it. How long before he start with witch hunt?
Hugin
(36,707 posts)
Beowulf42
(276 posts)you can't fix stupid, but you can't fit bat sh*t crazy either. We Democrats have let them demonize us long enough. Every damn one of us needs to stand up and shout these lies down.
viva la
(4,200 posts)"They did it! They made it up!"
"Really? Can you tell us what evidence you have for that accusation? And if that's so, why aren't you releasing everything to prove there's forgery involved?"
But they never seem to do that. I remember in the first term, at least occasionally a reporter would say one of his fabulations was untrue. Now they seem to just let him say obvious lies like that he brought in $16 trillion already this year.
It's disspiriting.
Kid Berwyn
(21,521 posts)He knows everything and everybody.
malaise
(287,187 posts)😀
Kid Berwyn
(21,521 posts)I think he ended up even higher as Putin's handler.
Whos Enabling Putins Enablers?
BY SAM PIZZIGATI
CounterPunch, March 29, 2022
Where would Vladimir Putin be without the Russian oligarchy? Without Russias oligarchs, political leaders of the Western world have concluded, Putin would be tottering. Western leaders have made squeezing Russias richest a central piece of their strategy to end Putins Ukraine cross-border assault.
These same Western leaders, unfortunately, have failed to take seriously what ought to be an equally pressing question: Where would Russias oligarchs be without the West, without the Wall Streeters, wealth managers, and assorted other high-finance riff-raff paid millions, as Institute for Policy Studies analyst Chuck Collins puts it, to help billionaires sequester trillions?
Western leaders have essentially been ignoring this question almost ever since the old Soviet Union collapsed. And now were paying the price. Those Ukraine sanctions against Russias oligarchs? They come with a huge loophole. The Western worlds opaque web of tax havens and anonymous corporations is essentially rendering much of those sanctions ineffective.
Snippe
The U.S. wealth defense industry, we need to remember, hasnt just been helping Russian oligarchs hide their fortunes. Americas money-handlers have for years been helping them pile up ever grander fortunes. Theyve steered the illicit funds of Russian oligarchs into U.S. real estate, investment funds, and even factories, says Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jake Bernstein, a senior reporter on the 2016 bombshell Panama Papers tax avoidance exposé.
The Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich has used a network of banks, law firms and advisers in multiple countries, the New York Times just reported, to invest billions in American hedge funds. Along the way, he tapped the expertise and contacts of U.S. high-finance giants ranging from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to BlackRock and the Carlyle Group.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/whos-enabling-putins-enablers/
Thank you for caring, malaise!
et tu
(2,368 posts)Scrivener7
(56,539 posts)Or he does and he's just TERRIFIED of what is going to come out.
The irony is that I don't think it ever will come out. But that almost doesn't matter anymore.
He's lost his one talent and he's digging his grave even deeper.
I love to see it.
AllaN01Bear
(26,694 posts)EarlG
(23,077 posts)He thinks he's walking on air now, and that he doesn't need any support from anyone because his presidency is God's will.
"Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this bullshit, hook, line, and sinker."
He's talking about Laura Loomer, Nick Fuentes, Dan Bongino, Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Steve Bannon, even Lara Trump...
This could get interesting indeed.
Orrex
(65,659 posts)Fil1957
(153 posts)supporting Trump. Not true. If he came out against gun ownership, most of his followers would abandon him. When he came out for vaccination, he quickly reversed himself 'cause he saw how unpopular that was with his followers. This looks like another one of those Maga third rail issues, more potent than vaccinations, not as strong as guns. But worse than either for him since this is Maga's holy grail, and he cannot change his position and release the files since he's in them. He's stuck. It's looking more and more like this has legs.
johnnyfins
(2,525 posts)His supporters want the files. They think the files are full of liberal elites. Does he not understand this basic fact? If its a hoax, then what do the files contain?
malaise
(287,187 posts)So much things to say about his friend. There are way too many videos. Now hes trying to run away from himself. Too late.
IbogaProject
(4,726 posts)The wealthy got their tax breaks, and now they are tired of his chaos. So they are now going to slowly grind him down, warm the public up to him going, and giving time for the transition to be arranged.
Prairie Gates
(5,734 posts)
tinrobot
(11,659 posts)valleyrogue
(2,241 posts)There is a lot more to this than Epstein. It probably isn't Epstein at all that is the motive but the excuse for the wingnuts to get rid of Trump once and for all and put in a truly evil regime.
Look at all the outrage by various public figures on the right over the Epstein files. It seems like it is orchestrated to get rid of Trump and force him out.
hadEnuf
(3,324 posts)stroked the Epstein list up to a frenzy over several years?
So at the very least, Trump is saying he was running a hoax on MAGA just to get elected. And some will buy that bullshit.
But it is well past the election and he and his followers never stopped pushing it, right up to the point where it was on the AG"s desk. Then boom, it's all a hoax.
No doubt Trump's name is all over that list. Sure, there are possibly Dems on there too, but with Trump's name he becomes no better than the Dems that MAGA hates or him being a pedo is just something they can't tolerate.
Either way it appears that he may be in deep shit.
NJCher
(40,839 posts)Is that he did himself in. WNYC, our local public radio in the NY area, had a discussion on it this morning.
Shawn McCreesh, White House reporter for the New York Times, explains how this plan backfired and why this case remains a part of the American imagination.
Shawn explained so much about this which made sense and how ultimately it is going to cost trump a big share of these supporters. That is because for years and years and years he preached that everyone going against him was because of the Epstein files and what was in them. "They" (people like Clinton, et al) were scared of trump because he alone was leading the charge to open these files.
Now he's totally dissing these followers and telling them to blow off. He doesn't even want them as supporters, he claims.
Shawn explained that when you've heard this over and over and over again, it becomes their main support for staying behind him, even when they become aware of his many blunders.
When people like trump devise these strategies (if you want to call lying a strategy), they never think them through. They never think of the pitfalls. It's whatever gets them through the moment.
electric_blue68
(22,676 posts)
pandr32
(13,255 posts)
DemMedic
(459 posts)Ol Janx Spirit
(353 posts)...repeating the Epstein conspiracy theory... It must be done!
It also needs to get airplay on every media available for a very long time.
Buddyzbuddy
(1,241 posts)I think it's more than one person in control, the Videos would be at the top of the evidence pile with the list in a close second. Ms. Maxwell's memory is also on that list. She may still be in control of some of the evidence which might be used to guarantee her safety?
I don't imagine the evidence was destroyed unless discovered by the actual predator, highly unlikely.
Anyway, hopefully, the truth comes out, sooner rather than later.
johnnyfins
(2,525 posts)You know, with the rest of the docs that he STOLE.
nowforever
(575 posts)then releasing the whole file with no redactions should clear it up. Trump is a pervert and cannot control his sexual desires, I cannot imagine he spent that much time with his best friend and didn't participate.
Texin
(2,778 posts)Well then, it's a good thing for him he doesn't have to worry about those (former MAGAts) quitting him.
surfered
(8,194 posts)Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Radical Left Democrats have hit pay dirt, again! Just like with the FAKE and fully discredited Steele Dossier, the lying 51 Intelligence Agents, the Laptop from Hell, which the Dems swore had come from Russia (No, it came from Hunter Bidens bathroom!), and even the Russia, Russia, Russia Scam itself, a totally fake and made up story used in order to hide Crooked Hillary Clintons big loss in the 2016 Presidential Election, these Scams and Hoaxes are all the Democrats are good at - Its all they have - They are no good at governing, no good at policy, and no good at picking winning candidates. Also, unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue. Their new SCAM is what we will forever call the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax, and my PAST supporters have bought into this bullshit, hook, line, and sinker. They havent learned their lesson, and probably never will, even after being conned by the Lunatic Left for 8 long years. I have had more success in 6 months than perhaps any President in our Countrys history, and all these people want to talk about, with strong prodding by the Fake News and the success starved Dems, is the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax. Let these weaklings continue forward and do the Democrats work, dont even think about talking of our incredible and unprecedented success, because I dont want their support anymore! Thank you for your attention to this matter. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
Torchlight
(5,199 posts)underpants
(191,727 posts)Denvermosaic
(144 posts)The Epstein thing is getting under his skin and that's gold.
lastTexasDem
(3 posts)Everything he says is an admission of his own making.
markpkessinger
(8,812 posts)Joinfortmill
(18,674 posts)Skittles
(166,338 posts)
wolfie001
(5,759 posts)He deserves no rest.
EarthFirst
(3,746 posts)keep pushing him over the edge.
AntiFascist
(13,579 posts)Trump said that frankly he doesn't trust anyone.
HoosierDebbie
(435 posts)Except Lonesome unknowingly broadcast disparaging his followers. This one truthsocialed it directly, no accident.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(25,401 posts)Jack Valentino
(2,881 posts)JohnnyRingo
(20,079 posts)....looking for an escape that isn't there.
JoseBalow
(8,024 posts)He really needs to learn a new tune. Nobody is buying his bullshit anymore, not even his dipshit cult followers.
Skittles
(166,338 posts)
UpInArms
(53,193 posts)Truly, it is about YOUR PAST
being a pedophile
raping children
MIButterfly
(909 posts)What else is new?