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[PeaceWave]

1. California doesn't actually have to stop paying taxes in order to create havoc for Trump...

California can simply re-categorize everything - college tuition, energy bills, you name it as "taxes." That way, everyone in the state could deduct the entire $40,000 SALT limit the GOP just rammed through. Poof. Just like that, the amount of tax revenue flowing to the Feds out of California would be cut in half.

[MadameButterfly]

2. I see the logic but I don't understand how

he does that. Taxpayers pay directly to the Federal government, not through the state. They'd be in a heap of trouble if they don't pay their income taxes.

I could see a lawsuit claiming Californians don't owe taxes if they are singled out to not get their federal funding. And of course they historically pay more than they receive. They might win until it gets to the Supreme Court.

[usonian]

3. In case you haven't noticed, the courts area separate branch with MAYBE marshalls to enforce

rulings that (currently) ARE BEING SPIT UPON.

I doubt that the executive can enforce a ruling, and its neglect, but IANAL.

I just know that the executive has blown away court rulings itself.

What do you think?

[SickOfTheOnePct]

5. He can't

Well, he can for state employees or non-income taxes that CA sends to the feds.

Of course then the state employees will have to come up with the money to pay their federal taxes, and might have to pay a penalty for not withholding anything as well.

[Qutzupalotl]

4. This could be fake

(anyone can mock up a fake quote). Do you have a definitive source? Newsom's feed on bsky does not mention this.

[applegrove]

6. It may be. I'll delete. As you suggested i looked deeper into the op

account and there was no mention of this story in the last two days. Sorry.