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daleanime

(17,796 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:46 PM Dec 2012

We not just watching the destruction of one party...

Last edited Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)

it's our entire system of government thats failing. Is there any one here who believes that our 'elected' officials will do the right thing?

For our seniors?

For our vets?

For the homeless?

For the kids in school?

For any of us making less then $400,000 a year?

Deal with Climate Change?(Good Lord how did I forget the worst issue facing us?)


There are no problems facing us that can not be dealt with, but they all require work, effort and yes money. And we can't have that.

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We not just watching the destruction of one party... (Original Post) daleanime Dec 2012 OP
47% of Congress are millionaires. KansDem Dec 2012 #1
Big part of the problem. daleanime Dec 2012 #2
Even more than 47%. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #9
And many if not most not in the top 1% are looking for a fast track way there. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #13
Thats an interesting question... daleanime Dec 2012 #19
It's mostly what happens after those terms as far as the money is concerned Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #27
Thanks! KansDem Dec 2012 #25
If you really want to risk a stroke, look into how many of them came into Congress as middle-class Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #28
I don't think I dare to... daleanime Dec 2012 #31
Our system of govt was doomed to fail... Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #3
When the people 'elected' to office... daleanime Dec 2012 #5
It needed to be DevonRex Dec 2012 #8
It would probably be more fair if we had mob rule... n/t socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #16
This is all part and parcel of Wellstone ruled Dec 2012 #4
Which is why they want to change the internet now... daleanime Dec 2012 #6
When You Talk Compromise Immediately Both Sides Take The Most Extreme.... global1 Dec 2012 #7
I don't think so... daleanime Dec 2012 #11
Really? FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #33
K&R closeupready Dec 2012 #10
We need to start making sure actual Democrats are elected to office octoberlib Dec 2012 #12
I sure don't believe it. I can't believe I was so happy on election night - forestpath Dec 2012 #14
The difference between Sotomayor and a Scalia. Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #15
Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he chooses a Republican next time. forestpath Dec 2012 #23
No he won't.... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #29
When Obama was elected for his first term, daleanime Dec 2012 #17
I think part of me knew this would happen..I was just in denial. forestpath Dec 2012 #24
I remember too. bvar22 Dec 2012 #39
Of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #18
And you better believe that their using it... daleanime Dec 2012 #20
Voters destroyed the GOP. Dems are doing it to themselves leftstreet Dec 2012 #21
For almost 30 years, Republicans have held the reigns of power. randome Dec 2012 #22
Add "for climate change," to the top of that list! villager Dec 2012 #26
Done! daleanime Dec 2012 #30
Boiled down to: MONEY TALKS. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #32
Money talks, and Bullshit ... FiveGoodMen Dec 2012 #34
The party has never changed coldbeer Dec 2012 #35
I wish... daleanime Dec 2012 #37
I will never understand how a minority of Neanderthals is able to..... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #36
The 1% fools enough people to predent... daleanime Dec 2012 #38
85% of Americans want NO cuts to SS/Medicare Doctor_J Dec 2012 #40
Fuck Congress. Fantastic Anarchist Dec 2012 #41
The problem is that we have allowed our government to be purchased... daleanime Dec 2012 #43
I don't feel like 80% of our elected officials will do anything for us upi402 Dec 2012 #42

Democracyinkind

(4,015 posts)
27. It's mostly what happens after those terms as far as the money is concerned
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:57 PM
Dec 2012

Hooray the revolving doors - the one path that still leads to the american dream (being rich, the one where you don't actually have to be at sleep to believe it)

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
25. Thanks!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:50 PM
Dec 2012

I was getting my info from here:

47% of Congress Members Millionaires — a Status Shared by Only 1% of Americans

It’s no secret that many members of the U.S. House and Senate are millionaires — 47 percent of them — their salaries paid in part by the American taxpayers.

The Center for Responsive Politics has crunched the numbers and released the results on its Open Secrets blog:

“About 47 percent of Congress, or 249 current members are millionaires. … In 2010, the estimated median net worth of a current U.S. senator stood at an average of $2.56 million,” according to the Center’s research.

“Despite the global economic meltdown in 2008 and the sluggish recovery that followed, that’s up about 7.6 percent from an estimated median net worth of $2.38 million in 2009 … and up 13 percent from a median net worth of $2.27 million in 2008. … Fully 36 Senate Democrats, and 30 Senate Republicans reported an average net worth in excess of $1 million in 2010. The same was true for 110 House Republicans and 73 House Democrats.”

“The vast majority of members of Congress are quite comfortable, financially, while many of their own constituents suffer from economic hardships,” said Sheila Krumholz at the Center For Responsive Politics. “Few Americans enjoy the same financial cushions maintained by most members of Congress — or the same access to market-altering information that could yield personal, financial gains.”

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/11/47-of-congress-members-millionaires-a-status-shared-by-only-1-of-americans/


Awful lot of red in your diagram...
 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
28. If you really want to risk a stroke, look into how many of them came into Congress as middle-class
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:00 PM
Dec 2012

and become multimillionaires through "lucky break" after "lucky break" plus the spouses and relatives that suddenly become qualified to make high 6 and 7 figure salaries.

I'm not going to name any names, but both parties are rife with this blatant corruption. No matter who's in control, it never sees the light of day.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
31. I don't think I dare to...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:11 PM
Dec 2012

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the explosion might take some Innocent bystanders with me.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
5. When the people 'elected' to office...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:55 PM
Dec 2012

feel free to ignore 70-80% of the population, you known change of some kind is in the air.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
4. This is all part and parcel of
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 03:54 PM
Dec 2012

the Rethugs governing. Look around and you can see how this all played out in states legislatures nation wide. Never before have we had a greater divide between earning groups as we have now. Very obvious as to whom the Regthugs masters are and it is none other than the 1%ers. Push back for the Occupy movement. The truth the media refuses to report.

global1

(25,251 posts)
7. When You Talk Compromise Immediately Both Sides Take The Most Extreme....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:05 PM
Dec 2012

positions and nobody wants to lose.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
11. I don't think so...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:17 PM
Dec 2012

how many people actually want to cut SS? 10-20%? But it keeps coming up in budget talks while military spending (which is over 60% of our budget) does not.

Can you tell me why that is?

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
33. Really?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:27 PM
Dec 2012

The Democrats take the most extreme positions?

Name some of those extreme positions, please.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. We need to start making sure actual Democrats are elected to office
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:21 PM
Dec 2012

Not Republicans masquerading as Democrats.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
14. I sure don't believe it. I can't believe I was so happy on election night -
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:22 PM
Dec 2012

and now I don't think 's much to choose from between Obama and Romney.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
23. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he chooses a Republican next time.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:40 PM
Dec 2012

He loves to pick Republicans for things.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
29. No he won't....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:03 PM
Dec 2012

He chooses Republicans because Lincoln is his idol....I wish Doris Kearns Goodwin had waited to write that damned book....

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
17. When Obama was elected for his first term,
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:32 PM
Dec 2012

I remember how nuts this place was. How much hope we all had that finally we could start to repair some of the damage done during the Bu$h. Videos of crowds singing in the streets.

Dear Lord why couldn't half that energy been used constructively.

 

forestpath

(3,102 posts)
24. I think part of me knew this would happen..I was just in denial.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:41 PM
Dec 2012

But it doesn't take me long to see reality.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
39. I remember too.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:02 PM
Dec 2012

[font size=5]Obama's Army, Jan. 21, 2009[/font]

[font size=5]"Oh, What could have been."[/font]

socialindependocrat

(1,372 posts)
18. Of the wealthy, by the wealthy, for the wealthy
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:32 PM
Dec 2012

IF you give money to the middle class, they will spend it!

Spending money = financial recovery

Most of the money in the recovery of the stock market went to the wealthy and into savings and investments
thus taking money out of the economy and thus giving us a more sluggish recovery.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
22. For almost 30 years, Republicans have held the reigns of power.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 04:39 PM
Dec 2012

Even when they were in the minority, they held enough of the reigns to keep us in check.

That seems about to change. And I am not being optimistic.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
37. I wish...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:51 PM
Dec 2012

both parties have been dragged so far right that Raygun could pass as a moderate dem these days.

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
40. 85% of Americans want NO cuts to SS/Medicare
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:45 PM
Dec 2012

yet they were proposed by a Dem president.

We have no representation in DC.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
43. The problem is that we have allowed our government to be purchased...
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:41 AM
Dec 2012

When our congressman receives his/her payoff, their not selling themselves-their selling us.

upi402

(16,854 posts)
42. I don't feel like 80% of our elected officials will do anything for us
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 02:29 AM
Dec 2012

Climate change is over-arching. And crickets we get.

Greg Palast was right.

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