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kentuck

(114,447 posts)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:12 AM Jul 19

Donald Trump is very ill.

He is unable to do his duties as the president of this country. When he is not on the golf course, you know something is terribly wrong.

Behind closed doors, they should be discussing the 25th Amendment.

Just as he has hid his health records from the public for the last 10 years, his supporters continue to hide the seriousness of his condition. He looks terrible. His face is swollen. He is covering up large bruises with make-up. He has a difficult time walking as his ankles are very swollen. His mental faculties have been dulled by his physical condition.

The people have a right to know about the health of their President. They were quick to accuse Joe Biden of dementia and incompetence, but they hide more serious health issues about Donald Trump.

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Donald Trump is very ill. (Original Post) kentuck Jul 19 OP
I agree, Haggard Celine Jul 19 #1
I agree with most points in the OP but from the recent FIFA match video shows him walking... brush Jul 19 #97
But if he goes, then we get you-know-who.... CTyankee Jul 19 #133
Insurance policy from what? TSF didn't put out this video. And none of the a-holes in the line of succession is a.. brush Jul 19 #135
No one belongs to the Cult of JayDee. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Jul 19 #141
that's my opinion as well. barbtries Jul 19 #150
None of those assholes in the line of succession are an improvement to the nation over trump. brush Jul 19 #171
i think it's fear. barbtries Jul 20 #184
See post 171. Now we need the world trembling? What the fuck is going on? brush Jul 20 #172
He's like a rotting corpse that is still moving Blue Owl Jul 19 #2
A real "Weekend at Bernie's" vibe. Girard442 Jul 19 #5
If he passes while in office, his handlers will wait daaaaaays until revealing anything. NCDem47 Jul 19 #29
They only know the old Soviet playbook LiberalArkie Jul 19 #47
They'll have to keep Vance in the dark, too. nt Ilsa Jul 19 #86
Instead of "Swan Lake" airing on all stations before the announcement, we'll have non-stop Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood. Efilroft Sul Jul 19 #163
That autopen will be signing all kinds of crap 'before he died' of course. *wink* *wink* TheBlackAdder Jul 20 #173
more like "Night of the Living Dead" DBoon Jul 19 #33
More like Norman Bates' mother in psycho. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 19 #81
I was thinking of a reverse Dorian Gray. ChazInAz Jul 19 #99
In Hell Jack Valentino Jul 19 #165
He's really dead already, just too stupid to lay down. The Wizard Jul 19 #55
You're killing me! Solomon Jul 19 #64
Yes, he's the Magat-filled zombie god... ananda Jul 19 #105
He reminds me of the alien mindfulNJ Jul 20 #174
Tarot Readers on YouTube are saying Captain Zero Jul 19 #3
cartomancy Celerity Jul 19 #7
The only card he'll ever need orangecrush Jul 19 #44
great cover of that song Celerity Jul 19 #51
Thanks! orangecrush Jul 19 #142
Are they predicting a merry Christmas? dhol82 Jul 19 #9
"They won't say what, how, why." Disaffected Jul 19 #12
Do we really need another rhetorical question? Seinan Sensei Jul 19 #93
It's OK if Disaffected Jul 19 #129
Tarot readers TnDem Jul 19 #21
Right now the astrologers are more accurate leftyladyfrommo Jul 19 #23
OK TnDem Jul 19 #28
that's ok NJCher Jul 19 #48
Sounds like divination and nonsense to me TnDem Jul 19 #66
as a writer, I NJCher Jul 19 #73
I see TnDem Jul 19 #118
Sorry, but I'm calling BS. Disaffected Jul 19 #128
Quote: Sounds like divination and nonsense to me Disaffected Jul 19 #125
My ex says I'm psychotic. Where can I go to develop my powers? 3Hotdogs Jul 19 #157
The White House. Jack Valentino Jul 19 #167
At this point if it is the tarot that rids us of him, I'll take what I can get Captain Zero Jul 19 #50
Dem4ever1978 Dem4ever1978 Jul 19 #60
I'm not sure leftieNanner Jul 19 #166
I object to this form of expression NJCher Jul 19 #54
It's not just YouTube -- all of the psychics on TikTok are saying it too. OMGWTF Jul 19 #61
OH, TikTok too TnDem Jul 19 #120
But don't you hope they turn out to be right??? Jack Valentino Jul 19 #168
It's probably more that people are just leftyladyfrommo Jul 19 #144
Also kkmarie Jul 19 #57
Hopefully the last four and a half of those last five months he is resting in state in the White House. generalbetrayus Jul 19 #78
Well Traildogbob Jul 19 #83
Destruction of anything democratic is no accomplishment whatsoever. No attempt at rewriting his history will change that ancianita Jul 19 #103
I remember some very similar predictions, his first time around. tavernier Jul 19 #92
Gonna mark my calendar...lessee, mid-Ocotober...hubby's birthday is on Hallowe'en. Big party... CTyankee Jul 19 #134
Kicking him out before the midterms is the GOPs last best chance tinrobot Jul 19 #156
Unfortunately he will be like his father dalton99a Jul 19 #4
Trump rso Jul 19 #16
Yep...anyone remember this? keep_left Jul 19 #56
OMG MorbidButterflyTat Jul 19 #82
Five sleazy pieces. calimary Jul 19 #91
I just lost my appetite for breakfast. 3catwoman3 Jul 20 #175
I had this same thought earlier today. We can hope. Joinfortmill Jul 19 #112
Possible retabulation by every state. That would cause anarchy. That is even scary than the orange man. efhmc Jul 19 #68
The American people deserve to know who is running the country bucolic_frolic Jul 19 #6
It is Stephen Miller by all accounts - the cabinet secretaries defer to him on key decisions dalton99a Jul 19 #10
Its is crazy Stephen Miller (white house bully) Jvp Jul 19 #25
Yep. Miller's agenda is simple: 1) Install a fascist dictatorship and 2) Reduce the nonwhite population dalton99a Jul 19 #37
Sadly, it seems to be working. rubbersole Jul 19 #41
What video of Miller in high school? Classmates corroborated what he said, iirc, & he was already awful Hekate Jul 19 #114
that evil weirdo is only 39 f-ing years old. omg! nt orleans Jul 19 #46
Fascist Cuck AND the billionaire donors. GoCubsGo Jul 19 #87
A real world Lee Sarason Bristlecone Jul 19 #136
Miller and Voight. Amaryllis Jul 19 #52
So auto-pen meets auto-mind bucolic_frolic Jul 19 #71
Thanks for mentioning Russ Vought. Mike 03 Jul 19 #79
Vought is a true Believer lildDemz Jul 19 #104
It's obvious Trump is unwell. sop Jul 19 #8
He will NOT resign Bmoboy Jul 19 #11
Trump will sign anything if they hand him a Sharpie and call him "Sir!" sop Jul 19 #17
Arrgh, unfortunately-- viva la Jul 19 #13
Vance rso Jul 19 #18
Vance will take the bigotry of the Id that is trump's MAGA LuvLoogie Jul 19 #62
And he is willing to suggest that his in-laws and his wife and his own children are.... viva la Jul 19 #117
The Crypt Keeper looks healthier. no_hypocrisy Jul 19 #14
hilarious! vapor2 Jul 19 #38
Blue eyes! Who knew? FadedMullet Jul 19 #153
Jake! JAKE! WHERE ARE YOU! Norbert Jul 19 #15
Is it bad that I want to see Joe Biden paying his 'respects' at Trump's funeral? mackdaddy Jul 19 #19
Pulmonary Edema (hands), vascular dementia, wearing a catheter, and his right leg is dragging Botany Jul 19 #27
Excuse me but KentuckyWoman Jul 19 #102
He wears diapers and I am sure that he has nurse's aids that clean him up daily Botany Jul 19 #108
These are not hands with any significant edema. Ms. Toad Jul 19 #116
Thanx for the correction Botany Jul 19 #124
The same old story Nasruddin Jul 19 #170
How do we know he is hooked up to a catheter? 3catwoman3 Jul 20 #176
Joe Biden is the best President of my lifetime and Trump is just evil. Botany Jul 19 #111
I agree! Jean Genie Jul 19 #130
He is senile and puerile at the same time BoRaGard Jul 19 #20
I am a firm believer that a person's meanness can eat away at their general health Ohioboy Jul 19 #22
true enough NJCher Jul 19 #53
For a person with a conscience, that makes sense. Safe as Milk Jul 19 #143
Suspect all those who might take trump's place or move up in Party have a marketed up copy of 25th Amendment. Silent Type Jul 19 #24
Please, no! We need closure, like the clunk when the cell block locks down at night. Kid Berwyn Jul 19 #26
It's going to be quite a task repairing his soul energy CanonRay Jul 19 #30
I read a book about suicides NJCher Jul 19 #70
Michael Newton talks about it in Journey of Souls. CanonRay Jul 19 #74
I have that book NJCher Jul 19 #76
You're only saying that to make us feel better 😉 CentralMass Jul 19 #31
I hope all of his remaining days are filled with pain and misery. Takket Jul 19 #32
They'll put him in an exoskeleton tonekat Jul 19 #34
I totally agree Maine Abu El Banat Jul 19 #35
Once you give his mental illness a pass the rest seems inconsequential. hay rick Jul 19 #36
I don't believe that. I don't believe anything from them especially when they're so forthcoming. live love laugh Jul 19 #39
I remember in his previous term mgardener Jul 19 #40
I think it is almost certain 25th is being discussed Iris Jul 19 #42
You called it! I hadn't thought of that, but you're absolutely right. Greybnk48 Jul 19 #43
A minor tweak Mblaze Jul 19 #45
Call me when he's DEAD - nt AZ8theist Jul 19 #49
Malevolent mendacity... GiqueCee Jul 19 #58
Malevolent mendacity and mindless malice. 3catwoman3 Jul 20 #177
I do love... GiqueCee Jul 20 #179
Me, too. 3catwoman3 Jul 20 #182
That pretty well sums him up! GiqueCee Jul 20 #183
Truth hits a wall gfarber Jul 19 #59
You've got a real talent for limericks, gfarber! calimary Jul 19 #98
He's been ill for years and his supporters just Jspur Jul 19 #63
Not ill enough, he is still consuming oxgyen. republianmushroom Jul 19 #65
Also notable is how fast this problem arose Raven123 Jul 19 #67
Post removed Post removed Jul 19 #69
Good. Maybe he'll just fucking die already. Orrex Jul 19 #72
Skip the suffering and get right to it. Happy Saturday. twodogsbarking Jul 19 #75
The said thing is... AdamGG Jul 19 #77
25 47!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 19 #80
How many days left? Doodley Jul 19 #84
It's been two weeks since his last golf outing. IL Dem Jul 19 #85
After he bombed Iran, he quit golfing because he knew they knew Captain Zero Jul 19 #88
Nothing new to see here. Dave Id Jul 19 #89
He looks and acts like a 79 year old man SCantiGOP Jul 19 #90
Not ill enough for me Ferrets are Cool Jul 19 #94
He is a catastrophic, creaking corpse kairos12 Jul 19 #95
I "c" what you did there! calimary Jul 19 #101
Not my resident! AKwannabe Jul 19 #96
The weight of his -karma finally approaching a concept of a heart attack? Brainfodder Jul 19 #100
It's a race between when he crashes and when the puppet masters need him out Attilatheblond Jul 19 #106
I've noticed that about Bondi too. Dulcinea Jul 19 #169
Yes, the hypocrisy is monumental. Joinfortmill Jul 19 #107
If I had a dollar for every "Trump is ill" post - Ms. Toad Jul 19 #109
Lymphedema CountAllVotes Jul 19 #110
Is Donald Trump-il ? Historic NY Jul 19 #113
A thousand cuts are not enough randr Jul 19 #115
Mentally..a sick man Demovictory9 Jul 19 #119
trump is NOT well LetMyPeopleVote Jul 19 #121
As I understand it, the 25th Amendment must be invoked by the Vice President FakeNoose Jul 19 #122
Larger hurdle than that. Pacifist Patriot Jul 19 #137
Thanks for this thorough explanation! FakeNoose Jul 19 #158
Here's an AI excerpt from Google: Safe as Milk Jul 19 #154
He was very ill in January of 2017. Nothing will change until it's politically safe for Rs to do something. themaguffin Jul 19 #123
In the last 24 hours, trump has... LetMyPeopleVote Jul 19 #126
Not gonna happen. Wednesdays Jul 19 #127
Don't worry, Im sure little Jakie Tapper liberalhistorian Jul 19 #131
Much as I hate to admit it, I am afraid this is just wishful thinking on our part. Katinfl Jul 19 #132
"Donald Trump is very ill." lastlib Jul 19 #138
He can't even stand up right now. Initech Jul 19 #139
Nonsense awesomerwb1 Jul 19 #140
That's why the GOP flips the script to zbiden stollen Jul 19 #145
Jake Tapper is writing the book now! maspaha Jul 19 #146
Positively Brezhnevian. eppur_se_muova Jul 19 #147
This message was self-deleted by its author writerJT Jul 19 #148
He played last weekend and claimed to have won championship at Bedminster wishstar Jul 19 #159
Ah, thank you. writerJT Jul 19 #162
he is demented as well, barbtries Jul 19 #149
I've Heard It Said That Some People WiVoter Jul 19 #151
He has always Traildogbob Jul 19 #152
Is Shady Vance COL Mustard Jul 19 #155
I'm confident they are discussing the 25th amendment in there. paulkienitz Jul 19 #160
Not ill enough..... Evolve Dammit Jul 19 #161
He looks about the same to me. Here's his latest picture. Emile Jul 19 #164
All Trump has to do is make it thru the midterms. Then he will be GONE back to MAL. flying_wahini Jul 20 #178
With GWB I always hoped he'd be okay biocube Jul 20 #180
I believe he has syphilis displacedvermoter Jul 20 #181

brush

(60,748 posts)
97. I agree with most points in the OP but from the recent FIFA match video shows him walking...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:03 PM
Jul 19

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:56 PM - Edit history (2)

very well and even stopping to 'bow' at the booing crowd, which disappointed me as that came on the heels of reports of his ankles being so swollen he could hardly walk.

Don't get me wrong, I want the senile-adjacent MFer incapacitated too, but we have to bide our time as he's still able to walk well enough...dammit.

CTyankee

(66,658 posts)
133. But if he goes, then we get you-know-who....
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:45 PM
Jul 19

I think it's his insurance policy against getting thrown out of office on his ass.

brush

(60,748 posts)
135. Insurance policy from what? TSF didn't put out this video. And none of the a-holes in the line of succession is a..
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:00 PM
Jul 19

bargain.We are truly fucked as the SCOTUS 6 are in on it as they've given him immunity for 'official acts.'

141. No one belongs to the Cult of JayDee.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:50 PM
Jul 19

That doesn't mean the world wouldn't be better off without TACO's little fingers anywhere near the Red Button. I just don't see politicians and world leaders trembling in their boots at every utterance of The Bearded Boy.

barbtries

(30,614 posts)
150. that's my opinion as well.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:39 PM
Jul 19

vance will not ever be as powerful as krasnov; he will not have the cult, republicans will not kowtow to him, even the SC will probably start making rulings that make sense again.

krasnov goes away and things will get better, not worse.

brush

(60,748 posts)
171. None of those assholes in the line of succession are an improvement to the nation over trump.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:55 PM
Jul 19

What is going on here? Duers lobbying for trump to stay in power. We are now officially in Bizarro World.

barbtries

(30,614 posts)
184. i think it's fear.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 04:42 PM
Jul 20

that the nation will go completely dark. but I think, without him around, some republicans will regain their spine. Some SC justices may even as well.

i don't think any of the people around krasnov are better than him. I think the situation will be more hopeful if he is gone.

brush

(60,748 posts)
172. See post 171. Now we need the world trembling? What the fuck is going on?
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 12:02 AM
Jul 20

Last edited Sun Jul 20, 2025, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)

NCDem47

(2,926 posts)
29. If he passes while in office, his handlers will wait daaaaaays until revealing anything.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:54 AM
Jul 19

Efilroft Sul

(4,099 posts)
163. Instead of "Swan Lake" airing on all stations before the announcement, we'll have non-stop Kid Rock and Lee Greenwood.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:58 PM
Jul 19

ChazInAz

(2,933 posts)
99. I was thinking of a reverse Dorian Gray.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:08 PM
Jul 19

Is there a portrait of him somewhere that's getting younger and better looking?

Captain Zero

(8,180 posts)
3. Tarot Readers on YouTube are saying
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:16 AM
Jul 19

He has around only 5 more months remaining in the White House. They won't say what, how, why. They just say 5 months and he won't be in the white house.

Celerity

(51,148 posts)
51. great cover of that song
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:23 PM
Jul 19
Battalion Of Saints - Ace Of Spades (1984)


Label: Nutrons Records – E 1020, Enigma Records – E 1020
Format: Vinyl, LP, Album
Country: US
Released: 1984
Genre: Rock
Style: Hardcore, Speed Metal, Punk









TnDem

(1,161 posts)
21. Tarot readers
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:45 AM
Jul 19

So, we are down to tarot readers on YouTube to predict whether Trump makes it? You're kidding, right?

Maybe they can provide a few winning lottery numbers on YouTube, so I can quit my job?

TnDem

(1,161 posts)
28. OK
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jul 19

If you hear of any predictions about something that will help any of our bottom lines, then let us know.

I have never used CBS as a prophetic guide to anything either.

NJCher

(40,839 posts)
48. that's ok
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jul 19

Last edited Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:10 PM - Edit history (1)

It's because you don't understand this sense. You can't come at it from the direction in which you or most others do so. It's an expanded consciousness and it does require certain mental disciplines to get there.

At one time the human brain spheres didn't communicate with each other and consciousness had a very different way of working. Read The Origin of Consciousness and the Breakdown of he Bicameral Mind by Julian Jaynes as a starter.

on edit: So what I am saying is that the human brain evolves. What we are talking about is neuroscience. Yes, there are studies that document this. If you want the scientists and the bodies of work, I can give you a general direction in which to go, but I'm not going to do your work for you. To be clear: psychics and intuitives are operating at a higher level of consciousness. To get to that level, certain areas of the brain have to be developed. Certain mental focus exercises give one the ability to get to that level.

Is that clear?


Also, be aware that "time" is a fabrication of our particular dimension. This is why you can't get "time" from any psychic or even from a dream, which is another dimension.

Dimensions can be accessed through certain brainwave states, and this used to require decades of mental focus exercises. Now, with binaural beats and a few other methods, one can get to these states after a few months of practice, but even if you can get there, it doesn't mean you'll know how to navigate it.



TnDem

(1,161 posts)
66. Sounds like divination and nonsense to me
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:43 PM
Jul 19

Anytime you see things like:

you don't understand this sense

be aware that "time" is a fabrication of our particular dimension

and this used to require decades of mental focus exercises

It screams reality avoiding, ephemeral nonsense...I mean, re-read your post.

Just think, if the detainees in South Florida can mentally focus enough, maybe they and the homeless woman in Lexington KY can escape to another dimension...Hell, maybe we can all escape and then we won't have to plan for the mid-terms.

NJCher

(40,839 posts)
73. as a writer, I
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:06 PM
Jul 19

failed to draw a line here that you need to make sense of my post. It is:

Consciousness evolves.

I will go back and edit my post to put that in.

Of course it sounds like nonsense to you. The Encyclopedia Britannica looks like nonsense to a three-year old, too. You don't comprehend the intuitive sense because you either weren't born with the mental faculty to operate with it and/or you haven't devoted any time and effort to getting your mind to be able to work in an advanced level of consciousness.

I would ask, however, that you refrain from disrespecting divergent means of ascertaining what reality is when you don't understand this sense. At least put some effort into understanding it. It's like prejudice: certain white people don't like minorities because they've never been around them. Same applies to you and your M.O. for how others attain information.

Just so you know, for a time I tracked the predictions of these readers and a very high percentage of them did manifest. It is very time consuming work, however, and since it doesn't pay my mortage, I couldn't continue doing it. I did it long enough to know, however, that watching their predictions is not a waste of time.

TnDem

(1,161 posts)
118. I see
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:44 PM
Jul 19

So a person has to have an "advanced level of consciousness", otherwise, it looks like nonsense "like a three year old".

Maybe I should be been born with better "mental faculties", that way I could better understand "what reality is".

Of course, none of your replies above are condescending or disrespectful at all, correct?

I do agree with one thing you said, but I doubt those real trees can cloud your view of your ephemeral forest;

"...however, and since it doesn't pay my mortgage, I couldn't continue doing it..."

Disaffected

(5,784 posts)
128. Sorry, but I'm calling BS.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:08 PM
Jul 19

"........I tracked the predictions of these readers and a very high percentage of them did manifest. "

Show us the methodology and data (at a "three year old level" so we all can understand it please).

ETA: And please report back in 5 months if the prediction of the OP was accurate or not.

Disaffected

(5,784 posts)
125. Quote: Sounds like divination and nonsense to me
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:01 PM
Jul 19

That's because it is divination and nonsense.

Captain Zero

(8,180 posts)
50. At this point if it is the tarot that rids us of him, I'll take what I can get
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:21 PM
Jul 19

Regardless, JDV is probably next up.

leftieNanner

(16,015 posts)
166. I'm not sure
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:02 PM
Jul 19

Some congress critters might actually grow spines and say no. JDV isn't their God.

NJCher

(40,839 posts)
54. I object to this form of expression
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:26 PM
Jul 19
down to tarot readers
If you don't understand the sense, at least don't dis it until you do understand it.

leftyladyfrommo

(19,903 posts)
144. It's probably more that people are just
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:18 PM
Jul 19

picking up on all the things going on right now. Trump is a mess and you can sense it just by watching him. Our minds take all that subliminal info and put it together. We can feel it in the atmosphere all around us.
That information can be very accurate.

kkmarie

(280 posts)
57. Also
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:28 PM
Jul 19

I've seen the tarot card readers.
Dan Greany writer for The Simpsons is on TikTok saying Krasnov will be removed from office by the end of this year.
He says when Krasnov is removed no one will fight it. It will be accepted by all. He also said that although he doesn't know who will become president, he said jd and no one else in positions in this regime, will ascend to the presidency as they will have went up with Krasnov and they'll go down.

Here's a link to Tarot by the Bay. Also the reader said another medium is speculating that this may involve a recertification of the elections
Anyway
At 5:46 he plays the Dan Greany videos.

?si=jIuQVMPzLhtG-jDZ

generalbetrayus

(1,100 posts)
78. Hopefully the last four and a half of those last five months he is resting in state in the White House.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:16 PM
Jul 19

Traildogbob

(11,571 posts)
83. Well
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:22 PM
Jul 19

What he has accomplished the last 6 months, 5 more will end us. Then Vance and Miller will drive in the final spike.
And we will be subjected to 6 months of trumps burial and endless media of his great he was and how loved he is by the world.
Hundreds of parades as his rotting corpse lies in our house cause they will never let him go.

ancianita

(41,183 posts)
103. Destruction of anything democratic is no accomplishment whatsoever. No attempt at rewriting his history will change that
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jul 19

No matter how much fake pomp and circumstance his minions think is real, this one thing is true:
Rewriting his history will not erase the recorded and archived facts of his history of destruction.

One of his 'influencer' minions finally 'got' him and said the truth: "The liberals were right."

tavernier

(13,833 posts)
92. I remember some very similar predictions, his first time around.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:56 PM
Jul 19

But unless he’s standing next to a window in the Kremlin, I’m not betting any money on it.

CTyankee

(66,658 posts)
134. Gonna mark my calendar...lessee, mid-Ocotober...hubby's birthday is on Hallowe'en. Big party...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:52 PM
Jul 19

tinrobot

(11,659 posts)
156. Kicking him out before the midterms is the GOPs last best chance
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:02 PM
Jul 19

People are sick of him. If he's spouting off during the 2026 elections, Democrats win big

rso

(2,589 posts)
16. Trump
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jul 19

His father wasn’t obese and most likely did not have the horrible diet that Donnie does.

keep_left

(2,985 posts)
56. Yep...anyone remember this?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:27 PM
Jul 19

Trump's Mickey D's feast on his private 757. Corey Lewandowski said this occurred on Trump Force One on the regular.

Trump's fast-food feast occurred right after his announcement at one of his rallies that he and RFK Jr were going to "Make America Healthy Again". By the way, RFK Jr has a 20-ounce bottle of what looks very much like regular (full sugar) Coke.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219823994#post8
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219732796#post32

efhmc

(15,748 posts)
68. Possible retabulation by every state. That would cause anarchy. That is even scary than the orange man.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:46 PM
Jul 19

bucolic_frolic

(51,626 posts)
6. The American people deserve to know who is running the country
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:20 AM
Jul 19

because it sure ain't Donald Trump. His chiefs and cabinet secretaries? A triumvirate - Miller, Bondi, Patel? These people have been cut loose from accountability as long as they destroy government it's good to go.

dalton99a

(89,615 posts)
10. It is Stephen Miller by all accounts - the cabinet secretaries defer to him on key decisions
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 19

Nowadays Trump only cares about things that affect him personally - business prospects, bribes, the Epstein case, etc.

Jvp

(38 posts)
25. Its is crazy Stephen Miller (white house bully)
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:51 AM
Jul 19

Someone should run the video of Stephen Miller in high school ranting about the unfairness of having to pick up his trash at school when there are paid custodians to do that job! He has crazy hair also! Over and over and over!

dalton99a

(89,615 posts)
37. Yep. Miller's agenda is simple: 1) Install a fascist dictatorship and 2) Reduce the nonwhite population
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:04 PM
Jul 19

Hekate

(98,680 posts)
114. What video of Miller in high school? Classmates corroborated what he said, iirc, & he was already awful
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:34 PM
Jul 19

Also — what crazy hair? He’s got male-pattern baldness.

Try again?

GoCubsGo

(34,116 posts)
87. Fascist Cuck AND the billionaire donors.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:35 PM
Jul 19

Like Peter Thiel, Jeff Bezos, and the ones who own Roberts, Alito, Thomas, etc.

bucolic_frolic

(51,626 posts)
71. So auto-pen meets auto-mind
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:53 PM
Jul 19

No wonder they're focusing on accusing Joe Biden's tenure. At least Biden was a thinking, intelligent being.

Mike 03

(18,643 posts)
79. Thanks for mentioning Russ Vought.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:17 PM
Jul 19

I think he's largely responsible for the non-immigrant chaos, like the lawsuits, Executive Orders, the Big Ugly Bill, shutting off the money spigot to anything of value or that helps people, and much of the day-to-day decision making. His role is to actualize all he can of Project 2025.

sop

(15,329 posts)
8. It's obvious Trump is unwell.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:21 AM
Jul 19

He'll likely be hospitalized any day now, then resign under murky circumstances. One can hope, right?

Bmoboy

(513 posts)
11. He will NOT resign
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:31 AM
Jul 19

A malignant narcissist cannot admit they were ever less than perfect.

sop

(15,329 posts)
17. Trump will sign anything if they hand him a Sharpie and call him "Sir!"
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:39 AM
Jul 19

He'll probably be too far gone to realize what he's signing. His handlers will build a recreation of the Oval Office at Mar-a-Lago where he can sit and sign fake EOs still believing he's president.

LuvLoogie

(8,174 posts)
62. Vance will take the bigotry of the Id that is trump's MAGA
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:37 PM
Jul 19

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and transform it into the bigotry of the Ego. He will take trump's racism and morph it into an elitist intellectual cult where MAGA will deme themselves scholars of supremacy.

"Look at how smart JD is!"

Without trump they will look for anyone to keep them "on top." They'll hold the men with fascist Barbies and the women will follow the men.

JD has even less problem lying than trump. He is the Terminator.

viva la

(4,200 posts)
117. And he is willing to suggest that his in-laws and his wife and his own children are....
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:43 PM
Jul 19

less than real Americans.

Yeah, the in-laws with PhDs are not as good Americans as his cough hillbilly forebears? Oh, right, the hillbillies (that was his term) are white. And they are descended from other white people!
"Americans with Civil War ancestors have greater claim to US, Vance says."

Umm, you mean also the ones who fought on the ENEMY side?

gotta ask this-- which group is going to contribute more to the US we have now? Hmm, the microbiologist-college provost and her husband the aerospace engineer?
Or his ma and MeeMaw who set his Peepaw on fire?

no_hypocrisy

(52,399 posts)
14. The Crypt Keeper looks healthier.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:34 AM
Jul 19
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mackdaddy

(1,803 posts)
19. Is it bad that I want to see Joe Biden paying his 'respects' at Trump's funeral?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:42 AM
Jul 19

My conjecture is that Trump's vascular issues also affect his cognitive function through reduced blood flow to his brain from Long Covid. Or syphilis. Or Both...



Botany

(74,872 posts)
27. Pulmonary Edema (hands), vascular dementia, wearing a catheter, and his right leg is dragging
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:52 AM
Jul 19

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Live in hope.

Besides he is 79, does not exercise, and his dinners in Saudi Arabia were from
McDonald’s and they were 2 Big Macs, 2 Fillet of Fish, and a chocolate milkshake.

When I was getting a home care nurse she told me that he looked and acted like
some of her patients right before Alzheimer’s set in. The shuffling of his feet to
regain balance, the slurring of words, and lack of focus on the issues. She told me
he is very close to being out of it.

KentuckyWoman

(7,167 posts)
102. Excuse me but
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:12 PM
Jul 19

A 79 yr old - 4 fast food sammiches in one sitting? First off, how can he stay off the pot long enough to get any sleep that night. Good heavens .... Those poor maids.

Botany

(74,872 posts)
108. He wears diapers and I am sure that he has nurse's aids that clean him up daily
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:28 PM
Jul 19

But as far as I’m concerned he needs some McDonald’s French Fries with his meals too.

Btw about 10 years ago I was hungry and I had 2 McDonalds fish sandwiches… they tasted ok
but about 1/2 an hour later my later I was outside working on one of my wildflower native plant
projects about 10 minutes from my house and my body rejected that food and sent it out the
back door. I didn’t even get home. When I did I had to undress in the shower. Outside of a very
few egg McMuffin breakfast meals that has cured me of eating that garbage again.

Nasruddin

(1,079 posts)
170. The same old story
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:49 PM
Jul 19

Maybe so but people have been saying he was on death’s door or about to be locked up for the obvious dementia from the middle of his 1st term…. Eight years ago.

Don’t count on any of it. People can ride CHF for years and he’s so stupid no one will know if he has dementia until it attacks the brain stem.

I personally don’t think his early departure is a good thing at all. Vance is a huge potential disaster because he is not presidential material.

Jean Genie

(506 posts)
130. I agree!
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:26 PM
Jul 19

I've said it before, and I'll say it again - one of my dearest wishes is that Biden outlives Trump - and maybe dances at his funeral.

Ohioboy

(3,729 posts)
22. I am a firm believer that a person's meanness can eat away at their general health
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:46 AM
Jul 19

Trump's too busy rage tweeting to be healthy, both mentally and physically.

NJCher

(40,839 posts)
53. true enough
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:25 PM
Jul 19

I've seen people die of bitterness. It was etched in their faces.

Not a pretty sight.

I also think that thoughts somehow become manifest and when you have this many people hating, loathing, and disgusted with you, it cannot be good.

Safe as Milk

(135 posts)
143. For a person with a conscience, that makes sense.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:55 PM
Jul 19

(IMO) Stress turned inward can do a lot of hormonal/enzymatic/biochemical damage. Sociopaths/psychopaths don't have that kind of internal mechanism because they don't have a conscience that would activate those biochemicals. That's why it's possible for Trump to effectively kill hundreds of thousands of COVID victims and still sleep soundly (if he can stay off the social media posts for a night).

Silent Type

(10,556 posts)
24. Suspect all those who might take trump's place or move up in Party have a marketed up copy of 25th Amendment.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:49 AM
Jul 19

Kid Berwyn

(21,514 posts)
26. Please, no! We need closure, like the clunk when the cell block locks down at night.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:51 AM
Jul 19


"Clunk the Cuck"

CanonRay

(15,449 posts)
30. It's going to be quite a task repairing his soul energy
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 11:55 AM
Jul 19

It may have to be scrapped as unrepairable.

NJCher

(40,839 posts)
70. I read a book about suicides
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:49 PM
Jul 19

This person who wrote it was a psychologist. Long story short, his brother committed suicide and the brother, the author of the book, did an exploration into what happens to people who commit suicide. There are some, like trump, who are so effed up that they cannot be brought up to standards, meaning the standards we have for human decency. This is post mortem, i.e., after the person has crossed over.

If I can find the spot in the book that describes it, I might copy and paste it here. That will take me a while, but it is quite interesting.

Suicide comes from self-hatred and from believing that one is not worthy of the rewards in life that the rest of us regularly reap. That's one explanation, anyway.

And yes, there are some that are in such bad condition they do something with them, but I can't recall what that was. Sort of like scrapped, but not entirely.

NJCher

(40,839 posts)
76. I have that book
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:11 PM
Jul 19

thanks for the tip. I haven't finished it because it's an audio book and I dont' have the right audiobook software to bookmark where I left off. Have to work on that.

tonekat

(2,293 posts)
34. They'll put him in an exoskeleton
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:02 PM
Jul 19

An armature to prop his corpse up at the press briefings. "He has laryngitis, so we're just going to play a tape of one of his earlier briefings".

Maine Abu El Banat

(3,516 posts)
35. I totally agree
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jul 19

But the reason we have the most incompetent cabinet in history is so the 25th will not be an option

hay rick

(8,914 posts)
36. Once you give his mental illness a pass the rest seems inconsequential.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:03 PM
Jul 19

The 25th amendment will deliver us directly into the hands of Peter Thiel's stooge, Mr. Vance. He's working on his makeup as we speak.

live love laugh

(15,687 posts)
39. I don't believe that. I don't believe anything from them especially when they're so forthcoming.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:08 PM
Jul 19

He’s never disclosed his medical conditions before but all of a sudden we get a quick response and a full detailed report?

It doesn’t track.

mgardener

(2,113 posts)
40. I remember in his previous term
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:12 PM
Jul 19

When he was at I think, West Point graduation?
He had a hard time walking down a ramp.
Someone was walking right beside him.
He had trouble walking then, and that was over 4 years ago.

Iris

(16,519 posts)
42. I think it is almost certain 25th is being discussed
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:13 PM
Jul 19

The people he has surrounded bundled with are power hungry.

Greybnk48

(10,578 posts)
43. You called it! I hadn't thought of that, but you're absolutely right.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:14 PM
Jul 19

Why isn't he out there every day, as usual? Brilliant, Kentuck1

Mblaze

(630 posts)
45. A minor tweak
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:15 PM
Jul 19

"They were quick to accuse Joe Biden of dementia and incompetence, but they hide more serious health issues about Donald Trump."

And they let his incompetence slide.

GiqueCee

(2,606 posts)
58. Malevolent mendacity...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:29 PM
Jul 19

... and mindless malice are the lifeblood of the Republican terror organization. They lie to their dying mothers for idle amusement.
They have to prop up Putin's puppet until the Heritage Foundation can take complete control of all three branches of government, and totally tank the economy so they can create the Randian Hellscape of their fever dreams. The planet, and everyone on it, be damned.
It won't happen overnight, but there will be an abundance of slavestock available until both American continents look like Pol Pot's Cambodian Killing Fields from coast to coast.
Hyperbole? I don't think so. But keep your rose-colored glasses handy, 'cause it's gonna get worse before it gets better. LOTS worse.

3catwoman3

(27,249 posts)
182. Me, too.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:54 AM
Jul 20

Here's my string of adjectives for TACO Donvict - contemptible, cruel, coarse, crass, common, and crude

gfarber

(62 posts)
59. Truth hits a wall
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:30 PM
Jul 19

There once was a leader named Trump,
Whose health had become quite a slump.
With face swollen and bruised,
His duties refused,
While whispers of twenty-fifth jumped.

He stumbled around looking pale,
His health was a hush-hush dark tale.
While Biden faced jeers,
For imagined health fears,
This President's truth hit a wall, to no avail.

Jspur

(735 posts)
63. He's been ill for years and his supporters just
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:38 PM
Jul 19

don't care as long as he continues to spit out his hate rhetoric. Unfortunately for all of us his illnesses haven't stopped him from doing anything.

Raven123

(6,883 posts)
67. Also notable is how fast this problem arose
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 12:44 PM
Jul 19

His April 2025 physical reported no edema, so this problem was not noted (hard to imagine if he had a physical), not reported (what’s new?) or of recent onset. That the problem was visible across the room (so to speak) suggests it isn’t mild. If he had no edema 3 months ago and does to that degree now, makes me wonder.

That in addition to the other observations makes me believe they are hiding something.

Response to kentuck (Original post)

Orrex

(65,659 posts)
72. Good. Maybe he'll just fucking die already.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:00 PM
Jul 19

Suffering as much as possible along the way, of course.

AdamGG

(1,730 posts)
77. The said thing is...
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:12 PM
Jul 19

Vance wouldn't be much better. But, without the cult of personality disorder, hopefully the Rethuglicans would be less unified.

Dave Id

(140 posts)
89. Nothing new to see here.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:42 PM
Jul 19

History repeating itself. Republicans hid their chosen god Ronald Reagan's alzheimer's decease from the public as long as the could get away with it. He had been falling asleep in cabinet meetings, but they kept their mouths shut.

SCantiGOP

(14,557 posts)
90. He looks and acts like a 79 year old man
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 01:42 PM
Jul 19

Both he and Biden should have been ineligible, if we had a reasonable Constitutional limit on how old a candidate can be.
I had a friend who had a very important position with KPMG. They had a worldwide mandatory retirement age of 65, which applied to everyone including the CEO.
And before you label me as ageist, I am only 5 years younger than trump, and fully realize that I would not be as effective at my job as I was when I retired at 67, and certainly not as sharp as I was in my prime.

Brainfodder

(7,554 posts)
100. The weight of his -karma finally approaching a concept of a heart attack?
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:10 PM
Jul 19

No dignity for the office whatsoever.
Treating the govt like HIS business to make $ off of for sport?

Attilatheblond

(6,779 posts)
106. It's a race between when he crashes and when the puppet masters need him out
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:21 PM
Jul 19

They are probably almost done with him and ready with the bus they WILL throw him under, but Theil, et al, may still need a bit more time to put the last pieces of their dictatorship in place. Seems like Pam Bondi's job has been to hold him together until they are ready to crown JD, and that stress is really showing up on Bondi's face.

Dulcinea

(8,799 posts)
169. I've noticed that about Bondi too.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 10:16 PM
Jul 19

She looks like she hasn't slept in weeks. Even her hair looks tired.

CountAllVotes

(21,919 posts)
110. Lymphedema
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:31 PM
Jul 19

This is a problem that I myself have.

It gets severe when I travel on airlines, so I cannot travel on airlines any longer.

I ended up at an ER in Hungary as a doctor that was sent to my hotel room was worried that the swelling could be hiding a blood clot in my legs.

I went to the ER in Hungary and left because I didn't know what anyone was saying. Someone wanted 300EU from me so I managed to get a cab and flew home a couple of days later.

I arrived home in poor shape and was back at the ER again.

dump should not be traveling via air. That much I can say without hesitation as it is dangerous if you have lymphedema.



FakeNoose

(38,026 posts)
122. As I understand it, the 25th Amendment must be invoked by the Vice President
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:52 PM
Jul 19

If he's not willing, there's nothing the people/voters can do.

I hope I'm wrong about this.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,079 posts)
137. Larger hurdle than that.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:27 PM
Jul 19
"Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President."


That "and" in the first sentence is critical. It must be the VP and a majority of the cabinet.

Here’s how it works:

Initiation: The Vice President and a majority of the Cabinet must submit a written declaration to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House stating that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of the office.

Effect: Upon this submission, the Vice President immediately assumes the powers and duties of the Acting President.

Challenge: If the President disputes the claim and declares he is able to resume his duties, he sends his own written declaration to Congress.

Resolution: If the Vice President and a majority of the Cabinet dispute the President’s declaration within 4 days, Congress must decide. A two-thirds vote in both houses is required within 21 days to keep the Vice President as Acting President.

FakeNoose

(38,026 posts)
158. Thanks for this thorough explanation!
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 06:24 PM
Jul 19

The VP must call the Cabinet together to discuss and vote on the 25A invocation. They can't meet without the VP calling it. But once the meeting is called, they need at least a 51% majority to proceed to the next step... which is notifying Congress.

This was written before the internet and 24 hour news coverage.

Safe as Milk

(135 posts)
154. Here's an AI excerpt from Google:
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:57 PM
Jul 19

The Vice President, along with a majority of the President's Cabinet (or another body designated by Congress), can declare the President unable to fulfill their duties.

themaguffin

(4,582 posts)
123. He was very ill in January of 2017. Nothing will change until it's politically safe for Rs to do something.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 02:56 PM
Jul 19

Wednesdays

(20,595 posts)
127. Not gonna happen.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 03:06 PM
Jul 19

Even in the absolute worst-case scenario, they'll prop up his carcass a la "Weekend At Bernie's."

lastlib

(26,378 posts)
138. "Donald Trump is very ill."
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 04:28 PM
Jul 19

Best news I've heard today!

I truly wish him a complete non-recovery.

eppur_se_muova

(39,545 posts)
147. Positively Brezhnevian.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:23 PM
Jul 19

If someone were to post that on X, would MAGAts be convinced that was a flattering term ?

Response to kentuck (Original post)

writerJT

(350 posts)
162. Ah, thank you.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 08:52 PM
Jul 19

That’s still just one out of the last four weekends, unless I’ve missed others. Thanks for filling in some info.

barbtries

(30,614 posts)
149. he is demented as well,
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:36 PM
Jul 19

not to mention a seriously damaged and malevolent, malignant narcissist. He is a nihilist.

he is on the edge of being so bad off his keepers and users and acolytes and sycophants are going to have to do something about it. seems like it never will happen, but when it does, it will seem like it happened in an instant. the only certainty is that it will happen. no one lives forever and krasnov is way closer to the end than to the beginning.

i just hope I live long enough to see it.

WiVoter

(1,390 posts)
151. I've Heard It Said That Some People
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:42 PM
Jul 19

are so sick, they have to die to get better. So, maybe he’ll get better? I

Traildogbob

(11,571 posts)
152. He has always
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 05:43 PM
Jul 19

Been a SICK son of a bitch. Now he is just old and a sick son of a bitch. And I fill certain his mother “was” a real bitch. To dump his ass on the world.

paulkienitz

(1,452 posts)
160. I'm confident they are discussing the 25th amendment in there.
Sat Jul 19, 2025, 07:01 PM
Jul 19

A lot of GOP insiders have probably been itching to ditch Trump since before he was sworn in. They want a more sensible and common-sense single-party dictatorship without all the chaos and mess and financial ruin. But they're still scared of the rabid base, and the base follows him and no one else. They're desperately trying to balance the equation of whether their gains from tossing him into the Mt. Epstein volcano can balance their losses from having no one who they can depend on to rally the maga morons to support the new administration.

Trump has pushed other republicans into this same kind of dilemma many times before, and every time they've ended up concluding that they're stuck riding the Trump train all the way to the end of the line. But now, with his health failing. the track may finally be running out. And though they're very tempted, I doubt they'll change their ways... they probably won't make a move until he's actually in the hospital with a fair chance of never coming out.

flying_wahini

(8,157 posts)
178. All Trump has to do is make it thru the midterms. Then he will be GONE back to MAL.
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:02 AM
Jul 20

That’s it. I Would bet you that he has a wheelchair in his private quarters and some portable o2 nearby,
His bruises are probably from the IV Lasix they are giving him. Probably wearing a catheter too. Keep him up and walking around without any gaffs on live TV. That’s it.

I’m thinking it’s why they are slinging all the Project 2025 wishlists out in succession so quickly.
They have the cover of the Epstein shit and the SCOTUS is still in their pocket. So they are doing it now asap. Added benefit is that they can all blame Trump when the Dems take back both Houses.


(Yes, eternal optimist here)

biocube

(116 posts)
180. With GWB I always hoped he'd be okay
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:05 AM
Jul 20

because Cheney was so much worse.

But I can’t fathom Vance being worse than Trump. The wost case scenario is he'll just do what the so-called "tech right" donors want. That’s bad, but at least he won't throw a grenade into the global economy with senseless tariffs or threaten to invade allies.

displacedvermoter

(3,890 posts)
181. I believe he has syphilis
Sun Jul 20, 2025, 11:23 AM
Jul 20

and I tell everyone I know that he does. I don't care if it is true or not, I like to tell people it is.

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