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Breaking: President Obama on the cliff at 5pm eastern (Original Post) bigtree Dec 2012 OP
I knew it. I predicted last night that he'd come out while they were in hiding. YES. Gregorian Dec 2012 #1
Good Call, Gregorian! Cha Dec 2012 #24
Friday news dump. Cowardly n/t leftstreet Dec 2012 #2
Don't call my President a coward. nt Comrade_McKenzie Dec 2012 #4
Yup my President too madokie Dec 2012 #11
These 'negotiations' already make him look weak leftstreet Dec 2012 #30
Nice mcar Dec 2012 #5
not as bold, perhaps bigtree Dec 2012 #6
Why? reflection Dec 2012 #7
Really--- You don't even know what he's going to say? trumad Dec 2012 #10
Internet tough guys are fucking hilarious...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #12
Oh, for pete's sake. The Republicans bailed yesterday. MineralMan Dec 2012 #13
oh noes... dionysus Dec 2012 #14
Right, Obama should have talked about Boehner's failure LAST NIGHT ... a week ago!!! JoePhilly Dec 2012 #17
Sure, right - the man that risked a war with Rex Dec 2012 #19
That same person just threw vulnerable seniors under the bus leftstreet Dec 2012 #33
Screw you leftynyc Dec 2012 #21
Nailed it... SidDithers Dec 2012 #27
Sorry if I struck a nerve leftstreet Dec 2012 #38
yes Fridays can be a news dump day but in this case it's an end of week status update TeamPooka Dec 2012 #28
He just threw seniors under the bus leftstreet Dec 2012 #31
when did the seniors get run over? Was there a deal cut or law passed? Your pretend history is funny TeamPooka Dec 2012 #34
Did Boehner offer the chained CPI, or did Obama? leftstreet Dec 2012 #35
why are you so locked into what didn't happen? TeamPooka Dec 2012 #37
What else 'won't happen' next time? leftstreet Dec 2012 #39
Shouldn't you be focused on the Mayans today? Sounds like your kind of pretend crisis. TeamPooka Dec 2012 #41
You're minimizing an historic event leftstreet Dec 2012 #43
When was he supposed to react to a Thursday evening development? geek tragedy Dec 2012 #40
Yeah!!! He should have responded on Wednesday DevonRex Dec 2012 #45
WH official confirms Reid is meeting with POTUS now. bigtree Dec 2012 #3
The "fiscal cliff" is imaginary and doesn't exist bluestateguy Dec 2012 #8
the 'cliff' involves more than just deficit reduction measures bigtree Dec 2012 #20
La la la la la la la la la!!!!! bluestateguy Dec 2012 #22
was talking past cynicism, anyway bigtree Dec 2012 #26
My question is DJ13 Dec 2012 #9
According to Boehner, no. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #18
Blah, blah, will be here ready to negotiate, blah cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #15
I'm betting folks with expiring unemployment benefits will find him 'reasonable bigtree Dec 2012 #23
There is great PR value to sounding reasonable cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #25
Thank you, bigtree! Love hearing from our President.. :) Cha Dec 2012 #16
Thanks. Go Bama! applegrove Dec 2012 #29
There. Is. No. Cliff. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #32
There are expiring unemployment benefits bigtree Dec 2012 #36
Any updates? n/t TDale313 Dec 2012 #42
Nothing worth reporting. Just a general call to fix things after Xmas. cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #44
Thanks. TDale313 Dec 2012 #46

reflection

(6,286 posts)
7. Why?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:40 PM
Dec 2012

I don't think he was waiting on the Friday news dump. I think the Republicans just happened to melt down on a Thursday night.

MineralMan

(146,312 posts)
13. Oh, for pete's sake. The Republicans bailed yesterday.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:43 PM
Dec 2012

When was you thought the President would speak about it?

Your snide, sarcastic attitude about President Obama is getting really, really old, you know. I, for one, am sick of it.

President Obama will speak at 5 PM. I'll be listening. You can do as you please. But please spare us the sarcasm when you don't even know what he'll say. That's just juvenile.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
17. Right, Obama should have talked about Boehner's failure LAST NIGHT ... a week ago!!!
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:46 PM
Dec 2012

Why has Obama not come out and told us why Boehner's Plan B failed in the House sooner than the day after!!!

What is Obama hiding about what he knows about future events???

Why won't Obama tell me what Santa is bringing me for Christmas!!!

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
19. Sure, right - the man that risked a war with
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:47 PM
Dec 2012

another nation (to kill OBL) that has nukes is a coward...excuse me while I sit here and don't believe you know jack shit about the POTUS.

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
28. yes Fridays can be a news dump day but in this case it's an end of week status update
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:58 PM
Dec 2012

for the people re: deal negotiations with republicans
and a chance to apply more leverage
and a chance to get the last word over the GOP going into the weekend news shows.
much more proactive than cowardly from a politics standpoint but I understand how many would not be able to perceive the nuances involved in the situation.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
31. He just threw seniors under the bus
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:00 PM
Dec 2012

He needs a bold explanation as to why

How is this so difficult for people to understand?

TeamPooka

(24,227 posts)
34. when did the seniors get run over? Was there a deal cut or law passed? Your pretend history is funny
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:02 PM
Dec 2012

but funny strange
not funny haha.

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
39. What else 'won't happen' next time?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:09 PM
Dec 2012

Will Obama pretend-offer the Food Stamp program?

Or pretend-offer Veterans benefits?

nyuck-nyuck-nyuck

He looks weak

leftstreet

(36,108 posts)
43. You're minimizing an historic event
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:48 PM
Dec 2012

A Democratic President offered to cut Social Security

I'm sorry, but this is big

DevonRex

(22,541 posts)
45. Yeah!!! He should have responded on Wednesday
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:03 PM
Dec 2012

to something that happened on the next day, Thursday!!! That'd show how brave he is!!! Really!!!

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
3. WH official confirms Reid is meeting with POTUS now.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:38 PM
Dec 2012

Zeke Miller ‏@ZekeJMiller

WH official confirms Reid is meeting with POTUS now.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
20. the 'cliff' involves more than just deficit reduction measures
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:48 PM
Dec 2012

the new proposal is to kick all of the sequester cuts down the road and focus on extending the unemployment benefits and extending the tax breaks for folks under $250,000

DJ13

(23,671 posts)
9. My question is
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:41 PM
Dec 2012

Is it possible to stand on the edge of a cliff and wave a white flag without falling off?

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
15. Blah, blah, will be here ready to negotiate, blah
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:44 PM
Dec 2012

There's nothing really to say. He's just keeping himself on TV sounding reasonable.

(And if 15 minutes from now he says something game-hanging and dramatic I will have been wrong.)

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
25. There is great PR value to sounding reasonable
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 05:52 PM
Dec 2012

I'm not knocking it. Just noting that he most likely won't have anything substantial to say.

Not his fault. There is nothing substantial to say. There isn't much he can do unilaterally

 

Fire Walk With Me

(38,893 posts)
32. There. Is. No. Cliff.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:00 PM
Dec 2012

This is AUSTERITY being snuck in under another name. Remember Greece. STAND UP FIGHT BACK!

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
36. There are expiring unemployment benefits
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 06:06 PM
Dec 2012

. . . and expiring tax cuts which will effect as many as 97% of working-class Americans.

A report says that he's going to propose postponing sequestration.

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