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ZX86

(1,428 posts)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:29 PM Dec 2012

Federal Firearm Buy Back Program Including Monthly Lottery

This is a simple solution that completely bypasses any constitutional issues and could be instituted quickly.

1. $50 to $300 per firearm depending on type and condition.
2. Lottery ticket for a 5 million dollar tax free prize open to gun buy back participants only.

This would immediately sweep thousands of unused/unwanted guns off the streets. Guns of ex-husbands, deceased dads, etc. Guns of people who need quick cash. Guns of people who fantasize of being rich more than killing. Guns of people who enjoy gambling.

Considering that the odds of winning this type of lottery would be much higher than traditional lotteries would make it very popular. Advertisements could not only include comparisons of odds with regular lotteries but also the odds of killing bad guys vs winning 5 million dollars.

Don't get me wrong. I am fully in favor of very restrictive registering, licensing, and carrying of firearms. But a buy back/lottery gimmick could be a quick, simple, popular, high profile, and cheap way to rid the streets of firearms from casual gun owners to hardcore gun owners who need money.

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Federal Firearm Buy Back Program Including Monthly Lottery (Original Post) ZX86 Dec 2012 OP
I have one unreliable firearm that I might turn in. ... spin Dec 2012 #1
I'm also fine with gun buybacks Travis_0004 Dec 2012 #2
This is what I'm talking about. ZX86 Dec 2012 #19
"ex husbands" "deceased dads" "bad guys". Gee, could you tone down the gender bias? NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #3
No bias. ZX86 Dec 2012 #5
Pay fair market price, not the penurious amounts at some of the buybacks and there would be a good ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #4
Why not iPads and flat screens? RGVDem Dec 2012 #6
Too complicated. ZX86 Dec 2012 #8
Perhaps but..... ZX86 Dec 2012 #7
If the Government takes them, fair market value is required ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #14
Huh? ZX86 Dec 2012 #15
Count me in. rgbecker Dec 2012 #9
This would be a perfect solution. ZX86 Dec 2012 #17
The whacko's won't turn their guns in because..... Bonhomme Richard Dec 2012 #10
Whackos need money too. ZX86 Dec 2012 #12
All those accomplish is wasting money on garbage guns that most likely would never be used in crime NightWatcher Dec 2012 #11
Garbage guns are worth $50 off the street. ZX86 Dec 2012 #13
Several of mine cost $10,000-40,000 Chuuku Davis Dec 2012 #16
It wouldn't. ZX86 Dec 2012 #18

spin

(17,493 posts)
1. I have one unreliable firearm that I might turn in. ...
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:35 PM
Dec 2012

as I have little use for it.

It is an interesting idea worth considering.

 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
2. I'm also fine with gun buybacks
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:38 PM
Dec 2012

Last one I went to, I managed to sell an old .22 that was rusted so bad it wouldn't have fired. I was planning on cutting it in two, then throwing it away, but I saved it for a gun buy back and got 100.00.

I was happy, and another gun was taken off the street.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
3. "ex husbands" "deceased dads" "bad guys". Gee, could you tone down the gender bias?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:39 PM
Dec 2012

?

Son of a gun!

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ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
4. Pay fair market price, not the penurious amounts at some of the buybacks and there would be a good
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 09:39 PM
Dec 2012

turn out.

My take is that about half of US households have firearms, but 30% or less or active shooters. Getting unused and often improperly stored firearms out of circulation would be a good thing.

RGVDem

(1 post)
6. Why not iPads and flat screens?
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:00 PM
Dec 2012

Why not trade guns in for iPads and flat screen TV's? Also, why not buy the entire gun inventory out of Pawn shops? We'll be able to get a lot of guns out of circulation that way.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
8. Too complicated.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:07 PM
Dec 2012

Where would Ipads and flat screens be stored and distributed? If technology companies wanted to donate gift cards to be used in lieu of cash as an option, I think that would be a good idea.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
7. Perhaps but.....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:01 PM
Dec 2012

I don't think that would be necessary. When you are buying virtually any gun coming in the door fair market prices don't apply. These guns would not be bought for resale but for destruction.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
14. If the Government takes them, fair market value is required
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:07 PM
Dec 2012

Otherwise enterprising merchants will pay more and ruin the intent.

rgbecker

(4,832 posts)
9. Count me in.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:18 PM
Dec 2012

Father in law's shot gun, 22, and grandfather's 22. Don't like having them in the house if I think about them but not ready to cut them up. Don't know how I'd go about getting rid of them.

Bonhomme Richard

(9,000 posts)
10. The whacko's won't turn their guns in because.....
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:44 PM
Dec 2012

they truly believe that they will need them to save their own lives. They will also think it's a trick to take them then put them in the camps.
Some of these people are wound very tight.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
12. Whackos need money too.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:56 PM
Dec 2012

Would this program get rid of all guns? No. Would some whackos on hard times turn in guns for cash? Yes. Would fed up wives pressure some whackos to turn in guns. Yes. Would whackos flirting with sanity have a responsible way to get rid of there firearms? Yes.

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
11. All those accomplish is wasting money on garbage guns that most likely would never be used in crime
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:48 PM
Dec 2012

People rarely turn in anything of value or a firearm that doesnt have a dirty history to it.

When a gun owner needs money, he will sell it to someone without a background check for closer to market value than these buy backs offer. This is how so many guns get into the hands of criminals.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
13. Garbage guns are worth $50 off the street.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:05 PM
Dec 2012

Your comment only covers the most ideal situation for the committed criminals and gun nuts. Most guns are not in the hands of gun fetishists. Many people who need fast money would happily clean their closets of old and unused guns for a couple hundred bucks and a decent chance at winning 5 million dollars.

ZX86

(1,428 posts)
18. It wouldn't.
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 11:26 PM
Dec 2012

The purpose of the program is to rid the streets as money guns as possible. Not return investments on expensive firearms.

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