What Obama said Yesterday (SS is on the table)

[grahamhgreen]

Last edited Sun Dec 23, 2012, 05:31 AM - Edit history (1)

"As of today, I am still ready and willing to get a comprehensive package done." - President Obama 12/21/2012

Seems to me, Social Security is on the table.


Full transcript: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/president-obamas-remarks-on-the-fiscal-cliff--delivered-dec-21-2012-transcript/2012/12/21/2411fcc4-4bb6-11e2-a6a6-aabac85e8036_story.html

If someone has the actual deal broken into line items from the White House, I'd love to see it.

[cliffordu]

1. Ah!!! You're right!!!

DISPAIR is the order of the day!!!!

More politics 101 over the head of soooo many here.

Tragic, really.

[TDale313]

2. Sadly, once again...

I think we may end up having to thank the tea party nuts in the house for not being willing to take yes for an answer. Your guess is as good as mine whether that was President Obama's plan all along.

[uponit7771]

3. Obama also has four under arms ... www.JustMakeSomeBullShitUp.com

[SunsetDreams]

4. No just the words comprehensive package

does not mean that "Social Security is on the table." That is a stretch IMO.

[AAO]

7. Comprehensive is one way of saying "all inclusive", so yes it is on the table.

[treestar]

14. +1

This claim is ridiculous.

[Agnosticsherbet]

5. The President does not mention Social Security in the transcript.

So your concusion may be hasty

[Sherman A1]

6. Yup,

It is and always was on the table. This is why we need to continue to write & call our Congress types to keep it off the table.

[John2]

8. There is

no way this lame duck Congress will get a comprehensive Deal. The Deal they can reasonably do right now is pass the Senate Bill on extending taxcuts and continuing unemployment benefits if the Republicans got any decency. They can let the rest of the cuts take effect and let the incoming Congress take care of it. There are 25 new members coming in.

[plethoro]

9. Yes. It is. ANd whether he cuts Social Security before the end of

the year, or does it next year, should he do it in any way, shape or form, it will end the chance of taking the House in 2014, and probably winning the Presidency in 2016. The Republican down the street says earler today: "Looks like Obama is going to cut Social Security. That's all we need to get him out of there..." These were pretty close to his exact words. Politics 101? No. Betrayal 301.

[grahamhgreen]

13. You are right, cutting social security will kill our chances in 2014, and beyond.

[democrattotheend]

15. "Get him out of there?"

Uh, it's a little late for that.

[plethoro]

20. Yeah, I don't know what he meant. But I didn't stay to question what he meant. I didn't want to know

what he meant.

[freedom fighter jh]

10. I'm with Sunset Dreams.

"Comprehensive package" seems to mean just that it deals with everything -- tax rates and spending both, I guess.

Does that mean social security is safe? No, it just doesn't mean anything.

[grahamhgreen]

16. I would love to see a bullet point breakdown of the deals, publicly available,

I voted against smoke filled rooms and secret deals.

[freedom fighter jh]

19. So would I. nt

[woo me with science]

21. This is not exceptionally detailed,

but it is disturbing as hell:

[grahamhgreen]

22. OMFG. I guess social security is on the table! Wait, it IS the table!

Seriously, that needs to be an OP! Have you posted it as an OP? May I?

This is the crux of the negotiations broken down in a manner every American can understand, from a reliable source (WaPo).

We are is shock doctrine land - cutting SS has nothing tot do with the deficit, yet it's one of the largest portions of the package - and where is the war budget?

[Resonance_Chamber]

11. Of course it is still on the table

and it is the main course for all the R's and the POTUS, I absolutely and unequivocally do not trust President Obama to not cut SS.

Anyone who does trust him is going to be very disappointed.

The ONLY thing that should be on the table is the DoD Budget and not the part that covers vets, they have already cut that and the new budget cuts it even more.

[wildbilln864]

12. k & r! nt

[dionysus]

17. sometimes i feel that you guys are desperate to be right about SS being cut.

after 4 years of this one gets that impresssion.

[grahamhgreen]

18. So, Obama put SS on the table b/c he wants to save it, and prog's defend it b/c we want it cut?

Listen, I really want you to be right about SS, can you send a link to the White House clearly stating SS will not be cut?

Something like this:

Nice Jerry pic, BTW, I just saw Bobby and Jackson Browne at the Troubador 2 nights ago!