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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 10:02 AM Dec 2012

The NRA Flubs the Facts About Sandy Hook


Dec 22, 2012 12:00 AM EST

The gun lobby’s front man couldn’t even get the number of children murdered at Sandy Hook right. But what are facts when your whole premise is a lie, writes Michael Daly.


The National Rifle Association’s leading figure apparently paid so little attention to the particulars of the Sandy Hook School massacre that he misstated the number of murdered children when the organization finally broke its silence on Friday.

In irony gone ghoulish, Wayne LaPierre, the NRA’s executive vice president and chief executive officer, actually inflated the body count of youngsters. He made the startling and revealing error while suggesting that things might have been different if Adam Lanza had encountered an armed security guard at the school.

“Will you at least admit it’s possible that 26 little kids, that 26 innocent lives might have been spared that day?” LaPierre asked.

The official NRA prepared statement said only “26 innocent lives,” which was correct when the six murdered adults were tallied with the correct count of 20 murdered children. The “26 kids” was added by LaPierre, but his lack of attention to detail is understandable when you consider that his organization is essentially a sham. Facts cannot mean much when the whole proposition is a lie.

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The NRA Flubs the Facts About Sandy Hook (Original Post) DonViejo Dec 2012 OP
in Republican land, facts are optional putitinD Dec 2012 #1
And subject to change without notice nt DonViejo Dec 2012 #2
And actually, 27 were killed. Atman Dec 2012 #3
26 were killed at the school michigandem58 Dec 2012 #4
Yes, let's nitpic, shall we? 99Forever Dec 2012 #5
I suspect 27 would be dead if there had been an armed guard Bjorn Against Dec 2012 #6
Counting the shooter 28 where killed. whistler162 Dec 2012 #7
Kinda like listening to who ever subbed for Martin Bashir whistler162 Dec 2012 #8
Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #9
You are saying the coroner lied nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #10
I'm pretty sure it was the saiga they found in the trunk former-republican Dec 2012 #12
It was a shotgun found in the trunk. beevul Dec 2012 #13
From what I remember hearing it was a saiga shotgun former-republican Dec 2012 #14
lapierre is a madman. out of his fucking mind. spanone Dec 2012 #11
 

michigandem58

(1,044 posts)
4. 26 were killed at the school
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:21 AM
Dec 2012

And the number was in reference to how many may have been saved by armed security there.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
5. Yes, let's nitpic, shall we?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 11:27 AM
Dec 2012

If only this gun lunatic's first victim had had a weapon to stop him before he killed anyone.


Derp derp derp.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
6. I suspect 27 would be dead if there had been an armed guard
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:38 PM
Dec 2012

Of course I can't prove my hypothetical any more than the NRA can prove their hypothetical about an armed guard saving the day, but I do know the shooter would be the one who had the situation planned out so the shooter would have probably killed the guard first and then taken everyone else out.

The NRA likes to pretend having more guns will stop gun violence but there is no evidence to back that up, guns are used for murder far more often than they are used for self defense.

 

whistler162

(11,155 posts)
8. Kinda like listening to who ever subbed for Martin Bashir
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 12:44 PM
Dec 2012

yesterday quote FDR and then attribute it to one of his fireside chats and not to the first inaugural address where he made the "We have nothing to fear...." statement.

Too many times the talking heads don't research facts.

The total is
20 children
6 teachers/support staff
1 parent
1 shooter

for a total of 28

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. You are saying the coroner lied
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:38 AM
Dec 2012

When he stated he removed .223 ammo from the victims?

Enjoy your stay.

Deep...(hey will, it's contagious)

 

former-republican

(2,163 posts)
12. I'm pretty sure it was the saiga they found in the trunk
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 01:52 AM
Dec 2012

It's hard to tell in that film but it doesn't look like an AR

 

beevul

(12,194 posts)
13. It was a shotgun found in the trunk.
Sat Dec 29, 2012, 02:00 AM
Dec 2012

If you look close, you can see shotgun shells being ejected from it when the police secure it.

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