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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5474030-air-force-to-provide-funeral-honors-to-ashli-babbitt/The U.S. Air Force will provide Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt with military funeral honors, reversing a Biden-era decision that denied her familys request, according to a legal group that has represented her family.
Judicial Watch, the conservative legal group, on Wednesday made public a letter from Under Secretary of the Air Force Matthew Lohmeier, extending an offer to allow the special funeral procedures to take place.
I understand that the familys initial request was denied by Air Force leadership in a letter dated February 9, 2021, Lohmeier wrote in the Aug. 15 letter shared by Judicial Watch. However, after reviewing the circumstances of Ashlis death, and considering the information that has come forward since then, I am persuaded that the previous determination was incorrect.
He additionally extended an invitation to her mother and husband to meet him at the Pentagon, so he may offer his condolences.
The Hill requested comment from the Pentagon regarding the veracity of the letter.
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She was a fucking traitor.

newdeal2
(3,972 posts)She was a traitor that FAFO.
SouthBayDem
(32,913 posts)Voters acting collective fools on 11/5/24.
Crunchy Frog
(27,914 posts)Solly Mack
(95,657 posts)Sicker and sicker. Lower and lower.
B.See
(6,479 posts)nm
Nevilledog
(54,535 posts)Solly Mack
(95,657 posts)johnnyfins
(2,839 posts)Take care of your families. This whole thing isnt going to end with votes or an election. I, personally, am not making a threat. THIS IS MY OPINION.
Our beautiful experiment in freedom is going down in flames. I wish I could be more optimistic. 😪
Cosmocat
(15,273 posts)I have seen all of this since before he won the first time.
Knew they country was stupid enough to choose the most immoral and corrupt person imaginable over a decent, highly competent public servant and that is if he lost he would not leave normally, they kind of half assed it and fell short.
Knew he would run again and likely win, cause this country is just that fckn stupid, that they would not half ass things this time and things are where I thought they would be now.
One of my neighbors posted on FB about how we all need to fight back in January, and I posted that the country was rolling over him, that we lost the war over time going back decades of indulging republican lunacy. Some people jumped on me at the time.
Walking the dog last week, she said, I so wish you weren't right ...
canetoad
(19,436 posts)And it's a slap in the face for every American who didn't try to overcome the election of Joe Biden.
chowder66
(11,251 posts)Maybe they can do flyovers to commemorate!!
rubbersole
(10,485 posts)PunkinPi
(5,175 posts)definitely possible.
Source - https://www.fox5dc.com/news/osama-bin-ladens-niece-endorses-trump
Mblaze
(729 posts)Last edited Thu Aug 28, 2025, 05:09 PM - Edit history (1)
While refusing police orders and breaking into the Capitol through a broken window to stop an act, required by the Constitution, from taking place.
Jimvanhise
(505 posts)She was shot breaking into the Capitol building near Congress. What would Trump do if someone broke into Mar-a-lago like that? And why haven't the Capitol police protested Trump turning her into a hero?
Rhiannon12866
(242,578 posts)Good God, what has this country become?!
Crunchy Frog
(27,914 posts)Brainfodder
(7,780 posts)
no_hypocrisy
(53,004 posts)At least she isn't interned in Arlington, although I suppose that could change.
DFW
(58,888 posts)I wouldnt want them to have that kind of company.
Xavier Breath
(6,109 posts)BoRaGard
(7,465 posts)and liars
Paladin
(31,576 posts)An ugly, gold-framed portrait of her won't be enough for him, when he recalls the 1/6 riot---that day he hunkered down and told everybody he couldn't order the National Guard into D.C. Stomach-turning, as usual.
spanone
(140,122 posts)I wouldn't go anywhere near it.
DFW
(58,888 posts)When it is liberated, and the perversities done to it in the last seven months removed, i will be glad to return.
jonstl08
(501 posts)I am a veteran and we swore an oath to defend the constitution. She violated that oath when she stormed the capital and took part in trying to change the outcome of an election when their was no evidence of fraud. If you saw the video she was told to stay back. She did not comply and was going through the window when she was shot. This is so insulting to the police she and her so called patriots they beat up that day.
She is a traitor to her oath.
jonstl08
(501 posts)With Trump pardoning everyone arrested for Jan 6th and now this is similar to what the Nazis did with the people killed during the 1923 Beer Hall Putsch. Hitler and the Nazis tried to overthrow the government a few Nazis were killed. When Hitler came into power those people had memorials made out to them.
It is sickening
Walleye
(42,360 posts)But sure lets give military honors to our traitors
Tommy Carcetti
(44,198 posts)She attempted to break into a room of Congressional lawmakers who had been evacuated because the Capitol had been overrun.
Try jumping the fence at the White House and see how that ends up for you.
How the hell is that "determination" incorrect?
surfered
(9,134 posts)Botany
(75,273 posts)
hang her for the treason that Donald Trump told her that Speaker Pelosi had committed
by rigging the 2020 election. Deadly force was needed @ that time and I think she was
given a verbal warning to stop before she was shot.
Bookreadingliberal53
(115 posts)
Efilroft Sul
(4,163 posts)Arazi
(8,364 posts)Its obvious this military will actually give orders to shoot Americans in the street.
Be prepared
Kid Berwyn
(21,940 posts)Specialist Vanessa Guillén, US Army (deceased, murdered, likely by a fellow soldier). She is no more Mexican than Trump's grandfather, Frederick the Great Draft Dodger. Ms. Guillén was born a citizen of the United States. And she died an American, while serving our country.
Trump: I Need the Kind of Generals That Hitler Had
The Republican nominees preoccupation with dictators, and his disdain for the American military, is deepening.
By Jeffrey Goldberg
The Atlantic, October 22, 2024
In April 2020, Vanessa Guillén, a 20-year-old Army private, was bludgeoned to death by a fellow soldier at Fort Hood, in Texas. The killer, aided by his girlfriend, burned Guilléns body. Guilléns remains were discovered two months later, buried in a riverbank near the base, after a massive search.
Guillén, the daughter of Mexican immigrants, grew up in Houston, and her murder sparked outrage across Texas and beyond. Fort Hood had become known as a particularly perilous assignment for female soldiers, and members of Congress took up the cause of reform. Shortly after her remains were discovered, President Donald Trump himself invited the Guillén family to the White House. With Guilléns mother seated beside him, Trump spent 25 minutes with the family as television cameras recorded the scene.
In the meeting, Trump maintained a dignified posture and expressed sympathy to Guilléns mother. I saw what happened to your daughter Vanessa, who was a spectacular person, and respected and loved by everybody, including in the military, Trump said. Later in the conversation, he made a promise: If I can help you out with the funeral, Ill helpIll help you with that, he said. Ill help you out. Financially, Ill help you.
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According to attendees, and to contemporaneous notes of the meeting taken by a participant, an aide answered: Yes, we received a bill; the funeral cost $60,000.
Trump became angry. It doesnt cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican! He turned to his chief of staff, Mark Meadows, and issued an order: Dont pay it! Later that day, he was still agitated. Can you believe it? he said, according to a witness. Fucking people, trying to rip me off.
Continues...
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/
She is no one to be slurred. Spec. Guillén is an American hero.
travelingthrulife
(3,211 posts)They are honoring an insurrectionist against the United States. I guess if you honor confederate soldiers it is the same.
LetMyPeopleVote
(169,562 posts)U.S. military funerals are traditionally reserved for actual heroes, not insurrectionists who attacked their own countrys capitol.
Why the scheduled military funeral for Jan. 6 rioter Ashli Babbitt is indefensible - MSNBC
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https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/scheduled-military-funeral-jan-6-rioter-ashli-babbitt-indefensible-rcna228089
While this was impossible to defend given the weakness of the case Thomas Manger, the outgoing chief of the U.S. Capitol Police, condemned the payment in no uncertain terms it apparently was just part of a larger effort. As my MSNBC colleague Jahan Jones explained:
The U.S. Air Force is planning to offer an official military funeral for deceased insurrectionist Ashli Babbitt, who was shot during the attack on the U.S. Capitol, according to documents released by a conservative nonprofit.
Former Rep. Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, a war veteran whos now estranged from the Republican Party, said in response to the news: While her death is absolutely tragic and I wish it hadnt happened, the Air Force giving her honors is in itself a dishonor......
But in June 2021, Trump said that he saw Babbitt as an ally who was on his side. A month later, he said the rioter was innocent. A month after that, he accused the officer who shot her of being a murderer. In 2023, Trump condemned the cop as a thug and a coward who deserved to be vilified, and earlier this year, he inexplicably claimed that Babbitt was shot for no reason whatsoever.
Two months later, Trump claimed that Babbitt was innocently standing there and had possibly even tried to help law enforcement by trying to sort of hold back the crowd when she was shot.
It was as odious a lie as the president has ever told.
Nevertheless, its against this backdrop that his administration isnt just giving Babbitts family millions of dollars, its also giving Babbitt a military funeral traditionally reserved for actual heroes, not insurrectionists who attacked their own countrys capitol.