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D. Spaulding

(391 posts)
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 11:33 AM Sep 14

Thoughts on the Memphis Guard deployment.

I know the Kirk incident has dominated the news completely, but I'm a little disappointed the Memphis Guard deployment isn't getting more attention or push back.
I'm not a legal expert, but from everything I've read, just because a GOP governor is okay with it, doesn't make it legal. It still requires the Insurrection Act or some actual emergency for the president to deploy troops. Here are the general reasons he might be able to do so, none of which I see applying here;

Upon state request: The president can deploy troops to a state in response to an insurrection if requested by the state's legislature or its governor, provided the legislature is not in session.

To enforce federal law: The president can deploy troops without a state's request if an insurrection or civil unrest makes it impossible to enforce federal laws in that state.

To protect civil rights: The president can use troops to protect the constitutional rights of the state's inhabitants if state authorities are unable or unwilling to do so.

Are we going to let Trump normalize this?

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Thoughts on the Memphis Guard deployment. (Original Post) D. Spaulding Sep 14 OP
The PutinTrump ruling elite do not have to follow rule of law or the constitution. Irish_Dem Sep 14 #1
There are 3 Tennessees (3 stars in the flag) underpants Sep 14 #2
Are we going to let Trump normalize this? peggysue2 Sep 14 #3
As the Wizard of Ooze has almost singlehandedly proven for us: any act is only as illegal as the consequences that... Ol Janx Spirit Sep 14 #4
Agreed D. Spaulding Sep 14 #5

Irish_Dem

(75,218 posts)
1. The PutinTrump ruling elite do not have to follow rule of law or the constitution.
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 11:41 AM
Sep 14

The courts have made it perfectly clear that this is the reality.
Even if by some miracle a court rules against Trump, no one will ever enforce a court order against Trump.

underpants

(193,157 posts)
2. There are 3 Tennessees (3 stars in the flag)
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 11:42 AM
Sep 14

Eastern - dominated by Knoxville
Middle- Nashville
Western - Memphis.

Remember the members of the state legislature who got kicked out….well the non-white ones. The white lady wasn’t expelled. The ones kicked out were from Western Tennessee 😉

Gov. Bill Lee (R) has no problem with the Guard patrolling Memphis. It also is a red state Trump can use to divert the obvious moves on cities 😉 in blue states.

peggysue2

(12,186 posts)
3. Are we going to let Trump normalize this?
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 11:44 AM
Sep 14

I suspect that's the plan.

Trump backed off Chicago on the advice of advisors and lawyers. Invading Chicago was deemed problematic from a legal and public opinion basis. Getting a green light from Lee gives Trump and his Flying Monkey Brigade the aura of legitimacy.

No need for the "Just Yield, Man' advice from Speaker Johnson.

Happy Days!

Ol Janx Spirit

(404 posts)
4. As the Wizard of Ooze has almost singlehandedly proven for us: any act is only as illegal as the consequences that...
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 11:55 AM
Sep 14

...go along with it. Who will enforce the illegality of this act? The only true consequence of doing this is political, and he knows it. There may be subordinates that should be thinking very carefully about the consequences they might face from following illegal orders, but King Tangerine himself is untouchable in the current political configuration of Congress and the Supreme Court. Obviously his Administration--which is supposed to be ensuring laws are enforced--will not do anything to enforce any laws against him--and neither will the state of Tennessee.

Without changing the political makeup of the three branches of government, there do not seem to be any options to stop it.

Normalizing it is another matter, but short of protests and sternly worded letters there are few if any good options...unfortunately.

We find ourselves waking up to the fact that the political right has been planning and working toward this takeover for years while the political left was busy fighting to make average people's lives better.

D. Spaulding

(391 posts)
5. Agreed
Sun Sep 14, 2025, 12:03 PM
Sep 14

The task of reversing at least one branch of Congress this next mid term, is probably one of the most important and monumental tasks our country has faced in quite awhile.

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