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babylonsister

(172,445 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:40 AM Sep 17

Hundreds of Alligator Alcatraz Detainees Drop Off the Grid

https://politicalwire.com/2025/09/17/hundreds-of-alligator-alcatraz-detainees-drop-off-the-grid/

Hundreds of Alligator Alcatraz Detainees Drop Off the Grid
September 17, 2025 at 9:51 am EDT By Taegan Goddard


“For the hundreds of men who were detained at Alligator Alcatraz, entering the gates of the makeshift migrant detention center in the Everglades meant exiting the labyrinthine but familiar federal immigration process and entering what several immigration attorneys described as an alternate system where the normal rules don’t apply,” the Miami Herald reports.

“As of the end of August, the whereabouts of two-thirds of more than 1,800 men detained at Alligator Alcatraz during the month of July could not be determined.”
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Hundreds of Alligator Alcatraz Detainees Drop Off the Grid (Original Post) babylonsister Sep 17 OP
K&R Solly Mack Sep 17 #1
Bad Nazis Wild blueberry Sep 17 #2
They could be dead like what the Nazis did to people with mental deficiencies. kimbutgar Sep 17 #3
Gassed them? Really? Gimpyknee Sep 17 #17
Why the snark? You don't believe they've been harmed? live love laugh Sep 17 #21
I don't believe they've been gassed. Gimpyknee Sep 17 #23
That's 1200 men. Disappeared. CrispyQ Sep 17 #4
Now we know what it was like then. live love laugh Sep 17 #22
Organ trafficking? Human trafficking? Sex trafficking? suegeo Sep 17 #5
Killed or sold. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #12
Consider the family members when you make statements like that. lostnfound Sep 17 #16
1. I am not telling the family members anything they have not already thought of. Irish_Dem Sep 17 #19
Fair, fair, fair, sorry. Nt lostnfound Sep 17 #25
Disappeared. Big Gov G.O.P. is disappearing people BoRaGard Sep 17 #6
"whereabouts of two-thirds of more than 1,800 men detained at Alligator Alcatraz could not be determined" ?? DFW Sep 17 #7
So they're not even Greg_In_SF Sep 17 #8
They were dumped off planes gerryatwork Sep 17 #9
Good grief. I missed that statement. Biophilic Sep 17 #10
I'm sure he's offering to be the first one to go. Reminds me of so many corporate "non-DEI DEI Wonder Why Sep 17 #18
Mass Graves Johnny2X2X Sep 17 #11
Nah, mass graves would leave too much evidence Attilatheblond Sep 17 #13
Possibly stillspkg Sep 17 #14
Laziness Johnny2X2X Sep 17 #24
Democratic office holders in Florida orangecrush Sep 17 #15
K&R ReRe Sep 17 #20
Catch a few alligators and open up their stomachs Coldwater Sep 17 #26

kimbutgar

(26,368 posts)
3. They could be dead like what the Nazis did to people with mental deficiencies.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:47 AM
Sep 17

They put them in a van and gassed them. I would not it past this administration to sink to this low.

The orange pedo felon and Miller would be all for them to die.

CrispyQ

(40,402 posts)
4. That's 1200 men. Disappeared.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 17

And here I sit in front of a keyboard. IDK what to do other than calls & postcards to reps, & show up at protests, & keep putting my yard signs out. I feel like a good German, like I should be doing so much more, but I have financial limits, too.

suegeo

(3,078 posts)
5. Organ trafficking? Human trafficking? Sex trafficking?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:50 AM
Sep 17

Habeas corpus. Due process.

Posse Comitatus, ok, maybe this one does not apply. Then again, how does anybody know that for a fact.

Also, who is next?

lostnfound

(17,266 posts)
16. Consider the family members when you make statements like that.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:30 PM
Sep 17

”Disappeared” is enough of a statement.

Irish_Dem

(77,126 posts)
19. 1. I am not telling the family members anything they have not already thought of.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
Sep 17

2. They even have most likely had more horrific thoughts than any of us can even imagine.

3. There are actually some ideas I did not post, too graphic in nature.

4. I do not appreciate attempts to lecture and censor me.

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
6. Disappeared. Big Gov G.O.P. is disappearing people
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 10:54 AM
Sep 17

repubes will try to accelerate this evil anti-American and unChristian attack on the USA

DFW

(59,253 posts)
7. "whereabouts of two-thirds of more than 1,800 men detained at Alligator Alcatraz could not be determined" ??
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:37 AM
Sep 17

If they can do that with 1200 men they rounded up from all over the country, surely we can hope for similar news about the members of Trump's cabinet, can't we?

gerryatwork

(94 posts)
9. They were dumped off planes
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:10 PM
Sep 17

in the ocean South America style. When Stephen Miller stated the perfect number of Americans would be 100 million. The only way to accomplish this goals should be this;
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=which%20south%20american%20country%20dumped%20prisoners%20in%20the%20ocean&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5

Biophilic

(6,236 posts)
10. Good grief. I missed that statement.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:18 PM
Sep 17

So he wants 200 million people to leave, die, disappear or whatever. If only we had a way to send this out to people. 200 million people gone. Wow! How utterly horrible of him.

Wonder Why

(6,324 posts)
18. I'm sure he's offering to be the first one to go. Reminds me of so many corporate "non-DEI DEI
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:41 PM
Sep 17

programs where they claim to favor DEI but none of the executives are affected and all remain white males. They MIGHT put a woman or minority in a new position like "minority relations" but the power remains with the existing execs.

Johnny2X2X

(23,537 posts)
11. Mass Graves
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 12:27 PM
Sep 17

I have been saying this for months, mass graves are a certainty. History doesn't have any instances of what is happening in our country right now where mass killings weren't eventually discovered.

We've got all the pieces in place. A leader who has demonized millions of his country's people. A legislature and court system who've stripped millions of people of all of their rights. A secret police force with unlimited powers that only answers to the leader. Secret prisons and detentions. Secret deportations. There is no accounting for who went where and if they're even still alive.

Furthermore, this secret police has been populated with the worst of the worst people. There are people in ICE custody being killed right now, their bodies are being buried in holes in the ground somewhere to be discovered later. Is it by the dozens? Probably. By the hundreds? Hopefully not yet. By the thousands? It will be if it's not discovered soon. There are people being abused, there are women being raped and probably trafficked.

What is happening right now is a great evil and it's worse than most imagine. And it will not go on in secret for very long, it will come to light.

Attilatheblond

(7,652 posts)
13. Nah, mass graves would leave too much evidence
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:20 PM
Sep 17

This batch of Nazis learned from the mistakes of the first batch. My money is on slave/sex trafficking, organ harvests for old failing millionaires, dropped out of the plane into the ocean.

Not like they could adopt them out to wealthy familes like what happened under Betsy DeVos tender care with all the children missing from the system during Trump 1.0

Johnny2X2X

(23,537 posts)
24. Laziness
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 02:11 PM
Sep 17

I can imagine killings start out of laziness. Like they won’t know with some group of prisoners so killing them seems easier than all the paperwork to release them.

These are legit Neo Nazis, mass killings are definitely on their to do list.

Another factor could be these places getting paid per prisoner who enters. They could kill some to make room for more and still count the dead ones. No one really knows where people are in this system. It’s a massive cash giveaway to everyone involved. It will make business sense to kill people sometime.

And remember, ICE and these concentration camps are already targeting US citizens. The entire apparatus is being built with democrats in mind as the targets.

orangecrush

(27,211 posts)
15. Democratic office holders in Florida
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:23 PM
Sep 17

Should be able to get answers.

I assume they are looking into this????

ReRe

(12,151 posts)
20. K&R
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 01:42 PM
Sep 17

Egads. I used to read about all this in the history stacks at the library. (Believe it or not, studying history was/is my hobby.) Happenings and atrocities from many decades ago. Now we seem to be generating more of those stories in real time, right here in the USA. It is here, in the our country, where the atrocities are happening. 1,800 people just disappeared into thin air. Thus far unaccounted for. This is called living history en masse. Please everyone, we must sweep the midterms. But most important, please keep your family & friends close. Stay safe and stay on your toes, all ears & eyes. Take nothing for granted.

Coldwater

(482 posts)
26. Catch a few alligators and open up their stomachs
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:06 PM
Sep 17

You might just find a few undigested undocumented immigrants

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