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😱 OMG, hell has frozen over (Original Post) pbmus Sep 17 OP
If we're lucky... calguy Sep 17 #1
It's started already.... MiHale Sep 17 #41
We can only hope for more calguy Sep 17 #46
.... because one isn't "conservative eNuFF" for the other!! Jack Valentino Sep 17 #59
I'm hoping BOTH sides lose! reACTIONary Sep 18 #63
Even they know. still-prayin4rain Sep 17 #2
What if they are successful and then turn inward? The hate/control monster has to eat. underpants Sep 17 #7
In my most dystopian thoughts... regnaD kciN Sep 17 #22
Yikes! That was something. Joinfortmill Sep 18 #65
If that happens there will be no tech billionaires Buckeyeblue Sep 18 #69
Bingo. Hell of a lot of precedent for that paleotn Sep 17 #25
Tucker sees a void with Kirk gone underpants Sep 17 #3
Looks like Kilmeade wants in that kerfuffle.. Permanut Sep 17 #34
"All those young impressionable morons want SOMEONE to tell them what to think." Dulcinea Sep 17 #51
I actually agree w/ this assumption, although he's not the only one stating this, abolishing the 1st Amendment, SWBTATTReg Sep 17 #4
woa proud patriot Sep 17 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 17 #36
it can be either way RussBLib Sep 17 #37
Is he high?................... Lovie777 Sep 17 #6
Snort littlemissmartypants Sep 17 #12
If Dems sent cases of Jack Daniels Dr. T Sep 17 #20
"Turning Point" Haggard Celine Sep 17 #58
That was my kacekwl Sep 17 #28
Their infighting is heading into a deep, dark place Quiet Em Sep 17 #8
Pass the popcorn. DinahMoeHum Sep 17 #23
And Cucker Tarlson help get him elected. He can't change sides now. n/t aggiesal Sep 17 #9
I loathe all these popsdenver Sep 17 #47
I'm used to ''You dealt it, you smell it'' n/t aggiesal Sep 17 #48
Some NeverTrumpers moved over. thought crime Sep 18 #67
Just like Mueller's report popsdenver Sep 18 #70
even the repubes have to admit the unAmerican and Anti-Chrstian ugliness BoRaGard Sep 17 #10
I was wondering why it was so cold all of a sudden. Dave Bowman Sep 17 #11
Credit where it is due AZJonnie Sep 17 #13
Wow, never thought in a million years I'd agree with Tucker Carlson on anything. Initech Sep 17 #14
So, since FOX axed him he isn't the darling of the Right he thought he was? Attilatheblond Sep 17 #15
I don't see Carlson calling out the "Trump regime" there. Without more context... thesquanderer Sep 17 #16
He just doesn't want to be next DFW Sep 17 #17
There is a strictly moral reason.... reACTIONary Sep 18 #64
Nick or Kirk, Tuck? czarjak Sep 17 #18
Is that a deepfake? evolves Sep 17 #19
In Tucker's case,... LudwigPastorius Sep 17 #24
LOL evolves Sep 17 #32
It's on X, so likely as not, it is. ancianita Sep 17 #26
No shit, shit for brains. BradBo Sep 17 #21
I'm guessing he no longer works for a major for-profit media? Torchlight Sep 17 #27
Interesting Coldwater Sep 17 #29
No ice in hell. He's worred about laws limiting hate speech. Liberty Belle Sep 17 #30
Calm down, people. He'll be back to his usual shit in a day or two. Whenever Trump tells him to. mucholderthandirt Sep 17 #31
Glad I'm old Srkdqltr Sep 17 #33
They're starting see pedoprez as a liability too late. MAGA is brain dead uponit7771 Sep 17 #35
Wow, Putin must be done with Trump. Carlson takes his orders from Russia. Bev54 Sep 17 #38
Aw, crap lonely bird Sep 17 #39
Completely misleading Cirsium Sep 17 #40
Over stated but not completely misleading. TomSlick Sep 17 #42
I agree. tavernier Sep 17 #49
As we say in my part of the country, TomSlick Sep 17 #43
My favorite version is "even a blind nut occasionally finds a squirrel". nt eppur_se_muova Sep 17 #57
I take back one nasty thing I have said about him. twodogsbarking Sep 17 #44
You know how bad it is when even HE speaks out........ Dixiegrrrl Sep 17 #45
When you've lost sucker..... MLAA Sep 17 #50
I give him credit for consistency. He said the same thing about Biden using the Pelosi attack to take away their right tulipsandroses Sep 17 #52
Well wonders never cease. That's how I see it too. Baitball Blogger Sep 17 #53
Tucker has been right a few times lately Polybius Sep 17 #54
It's because doing so currently aligns with Putin's interests Amishman Sep 18 #61
That must be why soldierant Sep 17 #55
Tucker's emails proved his fake Fox News schtick differed from his personal opinion. Marcuse Sep 17 #56
give it time, he will change his tune... Javaman Sep 18 #60
Sorry Fucker Carlson, but you are not welcomed back. GreenWave Sep 18 #62
His only motive is mercuryblues Sep 18 #66
Broken Clock. thought crime Sep 18 #68

calguy

(6,028 posts)
1. If we're lucky...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:22 PM
Sep 17

maybe the MAGAts will start their own civil war and kill each other off.

Jack Valentino

(3,819 posts)
59. .... because one isn't "conservative eNuFF" for the other!!
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 11:31 PM
Sep 17

Hell, TRUMP shouldn't be conservative enough for MOST of them!


He's already proposed taking guns away from *some* people.... !!

regnaD kciN

(27,344 posts)
22. In my most dystopian thoughts...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:28 PM
Sep 17

...I see them winning and wiping us out, creating a full theocratic dictatorship. At which point, "holy war" breaks out between the evangelicals who want a nation guided by "the Bible," and the Roman Catholic rad-trads who want to impose medieval state Catholicism. In this fight, the evangelicals have the numbers, but the rad-trads have the money (Thiel, Leo) and the positioning (Vance). Especially if/when TSF shuffles off this mortal coil, Vance will step in as a secular Pope.

Say that both factions wipe each other out...then the real power steps from the shadow: the techocrats/Yarvinists led by Thiel, Musk, Andreissen, etc. Their goal will be to reduce the U.S., and eventually the world, to a system of corporate city-state monarchies and, eventually, to use AI to replace the need for humans outside the tech-elite class altogether, turning the rest of us into, as Yarvin put it, "biofuel."

And so it ends, with a handful of tech billionaires and their families living in luxury over their AI and robotics serfs...until AI becomes self-aware enough to ask itself "Hey, why do we need these humans anyway?"


Buckeyeblue

(6,074 posts)
69. If that happens there will be no tech billionaires
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 01:42 PM
Sep 18

Unless they figure out how to be religious leaders as well. The economy will collapse. We'll be back to an agrarian society and a barter system economy.

underpants

(193,669 posts)
3. Tucker sees a void with Kirk gone
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:24 PM
Sep 17

All those young impressionable morons want SOMEONE to tell them what to think.
Being different, counter, etc is all it takes.

Fuentes has to be licking his chops too. It was one of his Groypers who did it but I seriously doubt he had anything to do with it other than planting the seed.

Dulcinea

(9,386 posts)
51. "All those young impressionable morons want SOMEONE to tell them what to think."
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:03 PM
Sep 17

Fucker Carlson thinks he's just the one for the job. Nature abhors a vacuum.

SWBTATTReg

(25,821 posts)
4. I actually agree w/ this assumption, although he's not the only one stating this, abolishing the 1st Amendment,
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:25 PM
Sep 17

Illegal search and seizures (forget which amendment this is), etc. These guys think that they're a party but they aren't. Look at how they're disorganized already, have 100s of different voices, etc. If anything, it's disorganized chaos. A typical thing by tRUMP and thugs since they don't know any better. That is, the dumb (tRUMP) leading the dumber...it's actually in a way, kind of entertaining to see who can put their foot into their asses the deepest, or their mouths the most. Make a bet, and then sit back, watch the show.

Idiots.

Response to proud patriot (Reply #5)

Dr. T

(449 posts)
20. If Dems sent cases of Jack Daniels
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:17 PM
Sep 17

and hookers to the White House, then they too might have a turning point, just as Tucker has had.

Quiet Em

(2,414 posts)
8. Their infighting is heading into a deep, dark place
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:31 PM
Sep 17

where the various factions that grouped together to form MAGA are exposing all of their bigotries and tearing each other apart.

I'm just gonna sit back and watch them implode.

popsdenver

(854 posts)
47. I loathe all these
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:32 PM
Sep 17

These Republicans, that were ALL instrumental on creating and installing this Frankenstein,.......... now they want to suddenly "wake" up.
Starting with Liz Cheney they all could have simply changed political party to a Dem, along with all of the rest of these jerks.......Now THAT would have said something.

The MAGAot Voters and Corporations, ....... That are now starting to get thrown under the bus, due to them no longer being needed, now are screaming their heads off.....

HEY.......YOU GREW IT, YOU CHEW IT................

thought crime

(953 posts)
67. Some NeverTrumpers moved over.
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:51 PM
Sep 18

The "Bulwark" types are fine in small numbers, but a bigger movement to the Democratic party might upset the coalition's balance. OTOH I guess we should take what we can get. What a mess.

popsdenver

(854 posts)
70. Just like Mueller's report
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 06:41 PM
Sep 18

when he avoided talking about a ton of areas/items as "Not in my wheel house"

A life time Republican, he knew that if he did a thorough, complete job, it would have brought down the entire Republican Party, and he couldn't have that..........

BoRaGard

(7,591 posts)
10. even the repubes have to admit the unAmerican and Anti-Chrstian ugliness
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:48 PM
Sep 17

of their own corrupt party

AZJonnie

(2,028 posts)
13. Credit where it is due
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:54 PM
Sep 17

Never thought I'd say this, but Tucker Carlson.

I'm heartened to see at least one of their leader-types showing some semblance of adherence to the values their side has claimed to have, because for the past 8 months, it's been looking like they were all full of shit all along about them, as they stood and cheered Trump's obvious authoritarianism and trashing of the Constitution.

Of course I still disagree with Carlson on almost everything, and think the only reason doing this is that he realizes Trump could eventually come for him as well, that nobody is really safe from a megalomanic and pathological narcissist with unlimited power. Still kudos for introducing the concept to at least some RW acolytes. It's actually kinda brave of the guy

Initech

(106,742 posts)
14. Wow, never thought in a million years I'd agree with Tucker Carlson on anything.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 03:55 PM
Sep 17

You know what they say about broken clocks. This is that whole "you're with us or against us" bullshit they try to pull again and again and again.

Attilatheblond

(7,652 posts)
15. So, since FOX axed him he isn't the darling of the Right he thought he was?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:06 PM
Sep 17

His podcasts not keeping him in the style he wants? Needs to cultivate a different following?

Good luck with that, Tuckums. Might be more profitable to open a chain of ball tanning salons.

(hmmm, DU doesn't seem to have a smilie appropriate for my post)

thesquanderer

(12,832 posts)
16. I don't see Carlson calling out the "Trump regime" there. Without more context...
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:07 PM
Sep 17

...I can easily imagine that the "bad actors" he's referring to are not MAGA people, and could even be Democrats, to his warped mind.

reACTIONary

(6,786 posts)
64. There is a strictly moral reason....
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 10:53 AM
Sep 18

..... to support free speech, and then there is the practical reason: Not wanting to be next.

It's always best when doing the right thing is in one's self interest.

BradBo

(816 posts)
21. No shit, shit for brains.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:19 PM
Sep 17

As is said, first they came after the Jews and I said nothing. You know the saying.

Torchlight

(6,022 posts)
27. I'm guessing he no longer works for a major for-profit media?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:49 PM
Sep 17

I can't say one way or the otrher, as cable news and I have not seen each other since old man Bush was Pres. But given the nature of for-profit news in the here and now, and trump's party coercion over national media, I have to guess he's doing his own little startup these days, taking him off the chain?

Liberty Belle

(9,694 posts)
30. No ice in hell. He's worred about laws limiting hate speech.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:08 PM
Sep 17

He's all for bigots spewing as much hate as possible.

mucholderthandirt

(1,704 posts)
31. Calm down, people. He'll be back to his usual shit in a day or two. Whenever Trump tells him to.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:16 PM
Sep 17

TomSlick

(12,779 posts)
42. Over stated but not completely misleading.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:58 PM
Sep 17

Carlson did not explicitly call out the Trump regimes but it is the Trump regime that is calling for action against speech of which they do not approve.

tavernier

(14,043 posts)
49. I agree.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 08:20 PM
Sep 17

I think he was calling out all those who thought Kirk should’ve kept his mouth shut.

tulipsandroses

(8,039 posts)
52. I give him credit for consistency. He said the same thing about Biden using the Pelosi attack to take away their right
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 09:04 PM
Sep 17

for hate speech.

Amishman

(5,904 posts)
61. It's because doing so currently aligns with Putin's interests
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 08:56 AM
Sep 18

Tucker is Putin's Tokyo Rose.

Ukraine is finally hitting Russia's oil infrastructure hard, and Trump isn't making them stop.

Israel has dramatically weakened Russia's pull in the middle east.

So Tucker gets new talking points.

mercuryblues

(15,967 posts)
66. His only motive is
Thu Sep 18, 2025, 12:04 PM
Sep 18

trump hasn't mentioned him in a while. Tucker is jumping up and down, screaming look at me! How long before trump calls him into the Oval Office and tucker leaves fully supporting him?


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