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Ohioboy

(3,783 posts)
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:00 PM Wednesday

About those texts that were released???

Is it normal that such "evidence" would be released to the whole world like this?

Doesn't it kind of taint the case for juries and such?

Wouldn't whoever is in charge want to avoid trying the case in a court of public opinion before it ever goes to court?

Just wondering...

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AZJonnie

(1,537 posts)
5. I'm fairly sure I've seen such things be submitted under seal for the "tainting" reasons being discussed
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:16 PM
Wednesday

This young man seemingly does not have particularly good counsel.

MorbidButterflyTat

(3,681 posts)
4. No, it isn't normal
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:14 PM
Wednesday

It's bullshit.

A 22 year old wouldn't text like that. More like: 😱😲🤞 = "I confess. Hope I don't get caught."

Watch that kook Patel testifying and it all makes sense.

AZJonnie

(1,537 posts)
10. Normally I"d agree with how 22 yo's talk but apparently this kid was a straight-A student
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:45 PM
Wednesday

Just saying there's reason to think he's not your average 22 yo dude, intelligence-wise, even if a lot of things he did were pretty damn dumb. In particular, murdering someone, but also many of the things he did afterward. His "plan" most definitely sucked if he thought there was ANY chance he'd get away with it. Luigi Mangione he was most definitely NOT in that regard.

markodochartaigh

(4,025 posts)
6. The court of public opinion
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:17 PM
Wednesday

is basically an American Tradition by now.

As for the wording of the texts, perhaps Tyler Robinson is on the autism spectrum. We on the spectrum often speak and write in non-neurotypical ways. Personally, I don't find the texts particularly odd, especially considering young people and their meme culture these days.

I do find it odd that in the last day or so I have seen the "texts were not like people actually talk" at least a half dozen times, as I write this Sam Sacks is casting doubt on the texts. Maybe this line is just organically propagating, but it almost seems like it is being pushed as a red herring.

LeftInTX

(33,966 posts)
13. Thank you for this.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:04 PM
Wednesday

Here are some texts from family chat who are in their 30's

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Just thought I would share! If any one has a linked in page- I'm featured on this weeks xxx xxxx xxxx managements page and would love if you could take a moment to read and like the article

Oh my God, those cheeks I just wanna kiss him and bite him. So precious.


Can you send the address to my mom for tomorrow game (This one is in her twenties)

Remember grandparents day at xxxx Sept 5th Xxxxx's lunch time is 10:55

Yeah mmr vaccine

You might wanna buy tickets ahead of time for Moana

________________________________
None of them are on the spectrum. All of these are SMS texts. I changed names etc to XX xxxx etc so prevent identifying people.



yardwork

(68,056 posts)
15. There's nothing odd or unusual about those texts to my eye.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:09 PM
Wednesday

But the texts between Ryan and his roommate are very strange, imo.

yardwork

(68,056 posts)
14. The texts are very odd, imo.
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:08 PM
Wednesday

I'm not pushing any right wing red herring. I also have two kids on the spectrum and I'm familiar with the ways they communicate.

These texts (if they really are texts - nobody seems to know) are very odd. The syntax, wording, topics, and reactions are odd.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,428 posts)
7. Evidence is included to establish probable cause
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 04:21 PM
Wednesday

Not all of the evidence, typically excerpts of some of the evidence they have. Just enough to formally establish probable cause for the charges.

AZJonnie

(1,537 posts)
12. Is there some law that says whatever the submission IS, evidence-wise, it must be made public?
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 05:02 PM
Wednesday

I don't know either way but it seems like a Judge would have the latitude to say a submission like this is going to be under seal to avoid jury-pool-tainting or later mistrial. No?

DetroitLegalBeagle

(2,428 posts)
16. It will vary by state on the specifics
Wed Sep 17, 2025, 06:56 PM
Wednesday

But typically, charging documents are public record. Judges can order them sealed to protect ongoing investigations related to the charges the person is facing, or to protect minors or protected witnesses. But outside of that, they are public as well as whatever evidence the prosecutor includes for probable cause. The whole process is supposed to be out in the open, so once a suspect is detained and formally charged, with some exceptions, there is no reason to hide the charging document since it lays out the charges and the probable cause for them.

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