The murder of Kirk is not equivalent to 9/11

[Aviation Pro]

In spite of the fucking pedophile and couch fucker trying to make it so.

[gab13by13]

1. According to Malcolm Nance

the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk is being used by Magats as a mini-Reichstag fire to rally Magats and allow Krasnov to gut more of our rights, to gut our free speech, to make the press fearful to upset dear leader.

The MSM is being taken over by Magats, mark my words, soon CNN will be controlled by a Magat oligarch who is pals with Elon Musk.

Last night I watched Chris Hayes shut down a guest who made the claim that the Mossad was involved with Epstein. Had Hayes not done so he would have been fired, IMO. No one has proven that the Mossad was involved with Epstein but there are plenty of red flags to investigate it.

This is why I get my news from freespeechtv.org, because they still speak freely there.

[LymphocyteLover]

2. CNN is already controlled by a MAGA oligarch

There's a good circumstantial case for Epstein having some connection to Israeli intelligence, at least through Ghislaine Maxwell's father, who worked with them. Not sure why that is so controversial.

[gab13by13]

5. Saying bad things about Israel, or should I say Bibi,

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will be forbidden and punished.

AIPAC would go after anyone who goes against Bibi. Just a wild supposition that can still be said here, what if Bibi, what if Putin, have copies of the Epstein files and are blackmailing Krasnov with it? Someone funded Epstein.

I haven't looked in a while but the shareholders for CNN and MSNBC are the same people - BlackRock, Vanguard.

[LymphocyteLover]

7. I'm sure Putin and Bibi do have Epstein kompromat on Krasnov.

[RandomNumbers]

13. Arguing about Israel

REALLY should not be high on the list right now for most of us. (Exceptions for people with families there, of course.)

It is horrible what is happening there, but it won't help ANYONE in the Middle East for the reich-wing to continue to consolidate power in the United States. Okay, possibly "anyone but the richest f*ckers profiting off suffering" - but the profiteering from suffering isn't contained to the ME.

[LymphocyteLover]

3. You are right-- they are trying to. They even invented a scripted narrative for their suspect

like 9/11, which had an official script that the media couldn't deviate from.

[Irish_Dem]

4. Apparently it is worse than the US Civil War, WWII, 9/11 combined.

It is the basis for draconian revenge, restrictive laws and punishment of the American people.

[EYESORE 9001]

6. Speaking of 9/11

I find it strange that traditional enemies of the USA have been quiet since krasnov took office again. Seems to me that adversaries would have been yakking it up about launching some sort of attack, and perhaps they have, but how TF would we know? Going on past precedent, I’d guess it’s not a top priority for anyone in rumpco.

[barbtries]

9. they don't have to do anything.

i figure they're just sitting back and watching the US destroy itself.

[EYESORE 9001]

10. You make a good point

Guess there’s no need to introduce further chaos when the orange menace is doing that already.

[Wednesdays]

19. "Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake."

-- Napoleon Bonaparte

[barbtries]

8. it is equivalent in the sense of how the right is using it

to catapult the propaganda. When 911 happened, gw and cheney jumped right on that shit and lied us into a war with Iraq. PNAC had mentioned that something like "another pearl harbor" would have to happen to accomplish american hegemony over the world. kirk is this cabal's 911.

shows how feckless and determined they are to achieve their authoritarian ends.

it's all about how they can USE it. kirk is nobody in the grand scheme of things and the way they have jumped all over it is so totally disproportionate to the actual fact of the matter is very telling. The clear difference is that 911 was a true national tragedy. they've been working overtime to convince the base that kirk's murder is just as bad.

[70sEraVet]

11. Reminds me of Ernst vom Rath's assassination by Herschel Grynspan

But this will be a long Kristallnacht.

[dalton99a]

12. Charlie Kirk is the greatest American hero ever lived

And every American is grieving

[Blue Full Moon]

14. Little too much almost like he's guilty

[Martin68]

15. The murder of Kirk is not equivalent to the murder of hundreds of children in school shootings. Is Trump

going to order flags at half-mast after the next school shooting?

[durablend]

21. Only if another prominent right-winger dies

Or else, whocares

[GreenWave]

16. They hope to keep resurrecting him ad nauseum.

[Emile]

17. Most of America never heard of Charlie Kirk.

[Celerity]

20. A new Generation Lab poll found that Charlie Kirk was almost universally known among college kids: 94% of students had

heard of him, a remarkable level of name I.D. for any political figure. However, most college students were not fans. A combined 70% of students said they either “strongly disagree” or “somewhat disagree” with Kirk’s views. Only 30% said they agreed.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220650505

[durablend]

22. College kids makes up a minute portion of the US population though

How many outside of college knew of him?

[Celerity]

23. I simply provided some data that partially disputes the claim made by the first poster. I would like to see some data

that you can find that may support the claim.

[mdbl]

18. They are using the reputation of a heinous individual to promote control

It's thoroughly as disgusting as Kirk was himself.